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  1. #51

    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    The problem of Buddhism as you say is actually the solution. It's a two edge sword. You cannot cross without the other. So, you discard your rational thinking and transcend time and space. MIND is the problem and the solution is NO MIND.
    yes yes i agree. but if we just resort to that, than this forum is just futile. if we bring up a topic and we always end, a million times replying with "no-mind" all its derivatives 'silence' 'we could not reason' 'we should meditate' et al, then we defeat the purpose of the forum. citing once that silence is the only solution to the problem is proper, but to cite it a million times, makes it all redundant no?

    so in the end, if we are to consider it no-mind, leave it to silence, then why all these talk that has reached around how many pages?


    if we are to be silent, for the topic goes beyond reason, then why continue to talk about it?
    if we continue to talk about it, why do we end up with the recourse to silence?

    this, is the irony or ironies. So you decide, you cant have it and eat it too.

    what the buddha did, was that he only gave a away a lotus flower and smiled and that was a transmission of light (enlightenment.)

    so and so, that D.T Suzuki represents the academic side of buddhism. that although it is left to the recourse of silence, he explain it to some point for the purpose of academics.

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    OT: Thank you very much for your appreciation. However, I would still say: "YOU ARE YOUR OWN GREATEST TEACHER" and I AM ONE WITH YOU Brother!

    I'm teaching Psychology!

    Nice one sir.... In fact we are all interconnected in some other ways...

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    na-ilhan na ka, mr.regnauld. imo ra nang studyante.

    below 1% ra kay kadako nianing lugar cebu palang pila na ka mga schools... mau unta ngkaila meh daan... sa ako mga maestra/o sa psych wala man sila mga idea na pareho ni mr. regnauld... hahahaha

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    yes yes i agree. but if we just resort to that, than this forum is just futile. if we bring up a topic and we always end, a million times replying with "no-mind" all its derivatives 'silence' 'we could not reason' 'we should meditate' et al, then we defeat the purpose of the forum. citing once that silence is the only solution to the problem is proper, but to cite it a million times, makes it all redundant no?

    so in the end, if we are to consider it no-mind, leave it to silence, then why all these talk that has reached around how many pages?


    if we are to be silent, for the topic goes beyond reason, then why continue to talk about it?
    if we continue to talk about it, why do we end up with the recourse to silence?

    this, is the irony or ironies. So you decide, you cant have it and eat it too.

    what the buddha did, was that he only gave a away a lotus flower and smiled and that was a transmission of light (enlightenment.)

    so and so, that D.T Suzuki represents the academic side of buddhism. that although it is left to the recourse of silence, he explain it to some point for the purpose of academics.

    For the first time ha, you are using something i agree on. yes, this forum is actually futile. the reason i'm posting is just to number up the post count and to kill time. other than that, it is just as mundane and not much use for spirituality but will only add up to our confusion.

    At first, we use the finite to grasp the infinite. little by little we eat of the infinite through finite means, we understand the infinite until we have merged and understand the infinite. But not all can reason out, that is why we result to silence. and through this, we can humble ourselves that not all can be understood by finite means but through direct experience of what we call TRUTH. truth must be experienced first hand, and cannot but taught but merely described.

    I myself would agree that I result to silence because I know that knowledge will be revealed soon enough when I am able to handle and comprehend it. I am not a know it all you know..neither have I atained cosmic consciousness, so why bother? In truth, there are no arguments but only understanding.


    But reasoning is good in the first initial stages. but in the end, it cannot suffice. we need to experience truth first hand. no too much talk.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Red.Emano View Post
    For the first time ha, you are using something i agree on. yes, this forum is actually futile. the reason i'm posting is just to number up the post count and to kill time. other than that, it is just as mundane and not much use for spirituality but will only add up to our confusion.

    At first, we use the finite to grasp the infinite. little by little we eat of the infinite through finite means, we understand the infinite until we have merged and understand the infinite. But not all can reason out, that is why we result to silence. and through this, we can humble ourselves that not all can be understood by finite means but through direct experience of what we call TRUTH. truth must be experienced first hand, and cannot but taught but merely described.

    I myself would agree that I result to silence because I know that knowledge will be revealed soon enough when I am able to handle and comprehend it. I am not a know it all you know..neither have I atained cosmic consciousness, so why bother? In truth, there are no arguments but only understanding.


    But reasoning is good in the first initial stages. but in the end, it cannot suffice. we need to experience truth first hand. no too much talk.




    precisely mr. red, reasoning must saturate, for experience can truly be experienced when the mind "doesnt mind" or still already (w/ care), thus the hint of the "doctrine of no mind" is a tool for those who are already ready to experience that w/c words are vaugely trying to describe, as krishnamurti said "the observer & the observed are one"

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Red.Emano View Post
    For the first time ha, you are using something i agree on. yes, this forum is actually futile. the reason i'm posting is just to number up the post count and to kill time. other than that, it is just as mundane and not much use for spirituality but will only add up to our confusion.

    At first, we use the finite to grasp the infinite. little by little we eat of the infinite through finite means, we understand the infinite until we have merged and understand the infinite. But not all can reason out, that is why we result to silence. and through this, we can humble ourselves that not all can be understood by finite means but through direct experience of what we call TRUTH. truth must be experienced first hand, and cannot but taught but merely described.

    I myself would agree that I result to silence because I know that knowledge will be revealed soon enough when I am able to handle and comprehend it. I am not a know it all you know..neither have I atained cosmic consciousness, so why bother? In truth, there are no arguments but only understanding.


    But reasoning is good in the first initial stages. but in the end, it cannot suffice. we need to experience truth first hand. no too much talk.
    you misinterpreted me.

  7. #57
    @fish : thank you for quoting Mr. J. Krishnamurti


    @the_c : please, enlighten me on what you really mean?
    truth is like that, if you reason it out there is a less chance that the people you are conveying it to will trully understand. you cannot transmit knowledge, only describe it..it must be known by the seeker by himself. just as we tend to misinterpret our own conversations. but truth, once experienced by the individual will bring him to higher heights.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    If it is a Religion what is the name of Buddhist God ? or is it purely a Philosophy of Life ...
    its a false religion

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Red.Emano View Post
    @fish : thank you for quoting Mr. J. Krishnamurti


    @the_c : please, enlighten me on what you really mean?
    truth is like that, if you reason it out there is a less chance that the people you are conveying it to will trully understand. you cannot transmit knowledge, only describe it..it must be known by the seeker by himself. just as we tend to misinterpret our own conversations. but truth, once experienced by the individual will bring him to higher heights.
    by describing your attempting to transmit it.

    my point of recourse to silence is not waiting for some divine light that will shine on us to give us knowledge, it is not a preparation for such thing, rather that we have already exhausted all means for communication and yet we are still unable to present it adequately.

  10. #60
    Verily, I agree with this again.

    but somehow, our attempts fail because there are still questions left unanswered.

    And yes, we do not mean by silence by just to wait for some bannaana to fall from a tree then eat it since we are unable to climb it.

    but there are certain techniques to attain a glimpse of this knowlege thus we do not need a language as a medium or mediator to the truth. we directly gain it thus piercing truth itself. By then, we gain knowledge of the divine that cannot be transmited by our discussions by themselves.


    just as a teacher conveys to his student how to subtract and divide, it is up to the student to understand the arithmetic. that is when, he practices how to add, subtract and divide by trying to solve problems on paper...

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