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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    What if i am a plain businessman (not a priest), can't i serve the Lord for that?

    ei flanker, are you a christian? granted your not into religious group at all, can you live without an income for your self? and all you can do is praying and worshiping God without eating? i think you are trying to say here is that Service to the Lord without Eating! how's that? even the atheist needs MONEY to survive for christ sake!
    bro, I've heard thousands of Priests preaching this line "Man cannot live on bread alone". If praying and worshipping can live up my soul from the hardships of life then let it be done. The Priest should once again "practice what they preach". But since you mentioned this line "What if i am a plain businessman" you just answered your own question. You are a businessman not a Priest, Father Suarez is a Priest not a businessman so why consider business plans and future investments? Hadlok cguro si Pader mo abot ang time dili siya kakaon 6x a day... or dili na kasakay og SUV... or dili na ma AIRCONAN?

    Isn't it logical in a sense? God's servants don't need money, they live up with praising and worshiping God. Investments are for businessmen and the Church (AFAIK) is not a business empire. or NOT UNTIL NOW, I GUESS! LOL! We are not saying don't eat or don't spend... we are saying DON'T EAT TOO MUCH OR DON'T SPEND TOO MUCH! food feeds the body, but for the servants of God "the gospel feeds the soul"...

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    What if i am a plain businessman (not a priest), can't i serve the Lord for that?

    ei flanker, are you a christian? granted your not into religious group at all, can you live without an income for your self? and all you can do is praying and worshiping God without eating? i think you are trying to say here is that Service to the Lord without Eating! how's that? even the atheist needs MONEY to survive for christ sake!
    Yes you can serve God, your a businessman anyway not a priest..





    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    bro, I've heard thousands of Priests preaching this line "Man cannot live on bread alone". If praying and worshipping can live up my soul from the hardships of life then let it be done. The Priest should once again "practice what they preach". But since you mentioned this line "What if i am a plain businessman" you just answered your own question. You are a businessman not a Priest, Father Suarez is a Priest not a businessman so why consider business plans and future investments?

    Isn't it logical in a sense? God's servants don't need money, they live up with praising and worshiping God. Investments are for businessmen and the Church (AFAIK) is not a business empire. or NOT UNTIL NOW, I GUESS! LOL! We are not saying don't eat... we are saying DON'T EAT TOO MUCH! food feeds the body, but for the Priests "the gospel feeds the soul"...
    I couldn't agree more... well said.

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    for me i dont care how much it cost... i dont think also that 1 billion pesos is alot to offer to HIM.. HE own's everything in this world HE's worth more than 1 billion...

    panghatag sa poor.. toinkz dili paigo oi kay mag sige naman pud ug huwat ig hurot sa mga hinatag hahai..

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    mao na nagkaboang atong nasud karon you are working beyond your Job Description...

    Politicians are for Politics
    Actors/Actress are for Publicity / Entertainment
    Businessmen are for Business
    Priests/Nuns are for God

    Dili kay:

    Actors for Politics
    Priest for business
    Politicians for God (i can't imagine the lies)

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    ok ra basta ari sa cebu tukuron... hehehe... ka nindot siguro anang dako pa sa statue of liberty... hahaha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bot_yok View Post
    for me i dont care how much it cost... i dont think also that 1 billion pesos is alot to offer to HIM.. HE own's everything in this world HE's worth more than 1 billion... panghatag sa poor.. toinkz dili paigo oi kay mag sige naman pud ug huwat ig hurot sa mga hinatag hahai..
    well sakto man nga 1 Billion is nothing compared to what HE (the almighty) has given us. Our lives alone is not enough pay our debts. But 1 Billion worth of stone icon and publicity stunts? how about 1 Billion worth of Church scholars? If they get their jobs they will repay the kindness back to the Church! and earn a descent amount for themselves as well without asking another favor. 1 Billion worth of medicines? for the sickly, if they recover they will pay the kindness back to God and start working again to earn and live anew. 1 Billion worth of Feeding programs? To live another day and reconcile for sins which then again repays the kindness back to the Church. That would've been Godly, and that would've been what God wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    bro, I've heard thousands of Priests preaching this line "Man cannot live on bread alone". If praying and worshipping can live up my soul from the hardships of life then let it be done. The Priest should once again "practice what they preach". But since you mentioned this line "What if i am a plain businessman" you just answered your own question. You are a businessman not a Priest, Father Suarez is a Priest not a businessman so why consider business plans and future investments?
    bro flankers simple question is - business or sevrvice to the Lord? yes i know businessman can also serve the Lord. what about a priest making business/investments for the Lord? like the proceeds of his business should all go to charities and the needy.as long as the priest wont gain profit out of that kind of business Not like what a plain businessman gets.


    Isn't it logical in a sense? God's servants don't need money, they live up with praising and worshiping God. Investments are for businessmen and the Church (AFAIK) is not a business empire. or NOT UNTIL NOW, I GUESS! LOL! We are not saying don't eat or don't spend... we are saying DON'T EAT TOO MUCH OR DON'T SPEND TOO MUCH! food feeds the body, but for the servants of God "the gospel feeds the soul"...
    you're correct bro.. but you cant deny the fact that we all need money to survive, its either came from business or love offerings it all boils down to HOW the proceeds may be used. will it goes to the priest alone or to the people who badly needs it? thats why all i can say is lets just wait and see how it will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    OK lets make the question simple - Business or Service to the Lord?
    Are the two mutually exclusive? You mean we cannot use funds to serve God by feeding the poor or other humanitarian activities? You are setting up a FALSE DILEMMA. A logical error. You are creating mutual exclusivity where there is none.

    God never requires money to serve him... Just imagine 1 billion pesos? for what? to serve him? its just pure business..
    Kindly provide EVIDENCE that it is just pure business and nothing else. Well?

    You don't even have the facts, and you even REFUSE to look for them! You have ZERO PROOF. Just like the others here who are falling all over themselves int he rush to judge someone simply because he's a priest. What prejudice!

    "If then you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will entrust to you the true riches?" (Luke 16:11)

    Have you considered that Fr. Suarez can raise even MORE funds for the poor and his many humanitarian projects? His project could revitalize the economy of the entire area. He would then be doing MORE good than what the original amount could have done. He would then be a GOOD STEWARD of the goods given to him.

    You seem to be under the wrong impression that the Church must only survive on donations and nothing else. Where did Jesus say that the Church could not raise money through legitimate investments? Can you provide me the verse? Uh.... no, you can't. As usual.

    You don't even bother to get the facts before passing judgement on another person. Jesus was clear on what is in store for people like you: Do not judge lest you be judged. The same means with which you judge others shall be used to judge you.

    Perhaps you wish to be judged arbitrarily and without appreciation of the facts, just as you judge Fr. Suarez. Nice prospect, no?
    Last edited by mannyamador; 02-12-2009 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    well sakto man nga 1 Billion is nothing compared to what HE (the almighty) has given us. Our lives alone is not enough pay our debts. But 1 Billion worth of stone icon and publicity stunts? how about 1 Billion worth of Church scholars? If they get their jobs they will repay the kindness back to the Church! and earn a descent amount for themselves as well without asking another favor. 1 Billion worth of medicines? for the sickly, if they recover they will pay the kindness back to God and start working again to earn and live anew. 1 Billion worth of Feeding programs? To live another day and reconcile for sins which then again repays the kindness back to the Church. That would've been Godly, and that would've been what God wants.
    ayaw'g palabi sa imong gibati bro.. 1 Billion is NOT for the icon alone.. over ra kaayo ka.. lol

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    ayaw'g palabi sa imong gibati bro.. 1 Billion is NOT for the icon alone.. over ra kaayo ka.. lol
    You got him there bro.

    Well, what can you expect from someone who REFUSES to get the facts? Now he's got EGG ALL OVER HIS FACE.

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