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  1. #321

    aren't A-10's called Thunderbolt's ?

    yup we have the weakest airforce since we have the strongest corruption

  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by cottonmouth View Post
    It depends on what type of armaments you fit the A-10 with. Depleted Uranium shells are specifically for tanks busting so we dont need to have that. That includes also Hellfire and other anti-armor missiles. The A-10 is the most versatile ground support aircraft to date.

    SU25 is good but only if you can have the reliable spare parts supply. Russia can't be trusted when it comes to spare parts availability. That's why many countries opted US or Euro-made planes. Design-wise the SU-25 doesn't fair better than the A-10.
    YouTube - Wings of the Red Star - Su 25 FROGFOOT 1/5 - Pls watch this documentary if you have time...


    The smaller size of Su-25 and its greater speed gives it a higher chance to remain undetected by enemy CAP. And the pilot's rear armor is better then on the a-10 it can use diesel fuel can haul fuel pump and some spares in special underwing containers. And It has better avionics than the A10s.



    A10 is only for the USAF.. so it is out of the picture.

    The best candidate would be Su25 & Helos...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril View Post
    aren't A-10's called Thunderbolt's ?

    yup we have the weakest airforce since we have the strongest corruption
    Yes.. but it is commonly known by its nickname - warthog.
    Last edited by flanker; 12-16-2008 at 10:22 PM.

  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by hobie View Post
    Yay our country cannot afford to buy fighter jets mas gipa labi pa nila personal wallet sa mga politicians and military officers. Instead our country should invest on helicopters and attack helicopters, our country is in the front line for typhoons and having Chinooks & other helicopters can help in the rescue mission.
    honestly maka palit man ta.. to think naka budget man gani sa ferilizer scam ni Jocjoc Bolante ug ZTE deal ni Abalos..


  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by cyril View Post
    aren't A-10's called Thunderbolt's ?

    yup we have the weakest airforce since we have the strongest corruption
    korek ka dyan.

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    honestly maka palit man ta.. to think naka budget man gani sa ferilizer scam ni Jocjoc Bolante ug ZTE deal ni Abalos..

    makapalit man pero ma drain pud atong resources, let's be realistic... most of the wish list diri is veryyyyyyyyyy expensive we can't maintain the airframe for such a long period of time it will eventually end-up like the F-5... if you know what i mean....

    again i say... it's ok to dream high.. but you'll end up highly dissapointed... let's be realistic

    A-10 is a good platform, it was very effective in Desert Storm, but the USAF are extending it's service life... so we won't be getting any...

    ever since we never had a strong airforce... the PAF during marcos time are basicly USAF in PAF logo, the US of A are the one paying and maintening those birds.... NOT US...

  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    ever since we never had a strong airforce... the PAF during marcos time are basicly USAF in PAF logo, the US of A are the one paying and maintening those birds.... NOT US...
    Correct, and that's because of the presence of the US Bases here in our country (Clark and Subic). That was practically part of the agreement. Gipapahawa man paglingkod ni Cory, nahanaw sab ang US support sa atong mga warplanes. Karon, bisan 1 lang ka C-130 maglisud na ug maintain. Mopalit pa kaha ug bag-o ug high tech? ambot lang ninyo. Keep dreaming, libre man.

  7. #327
    hi , im a friends came from Singapore ,and i wonder why Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world ? and why ? Well ,here in Singapore we are small country ,here the airforce we got F-16 C/D, F-16 C Block 50 Block 52 , A-4 SykHawk , F-15 SG , F-5E, AH 64 attack helicoper. And why Philippine Big country and is one of the weakest in the world ? can anybody tell me why ? why philippine air focre cant fly thier F 5E ?

  8. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by khaylim View Post
    hi , im a friends came from Singapore ,and i wonder why Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world ? and why ? Well ,here in Singapore we are small country ,here the airforce we got F-16 C/D, F-16 C Block 50 Block 52 , A-4 SykHawk , F-15 SG , F-5E, AH 64 attack helicoper. And why Philippine Big country and is one of the weakest in the world ? can anybody tell me why ? why philippine air focre cant fly thier F 5E ?
    we dont have money hehehe we'll we have plenty of money but our politicians love money and they don't like to share it with the air force, therefore no new aircraft hehehe

  9. #329
    Quote Originally Posted by khaylim View Post
    hi , im a friends came from Singapore ,and i wonder why Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world ? and why ? Well ,here in Singapore we are small country ,here the airforce we got F-16 C/D, F-16 C Block 50 Block 52 , A-4 SykHawk , F-15 SG , F-5E, AH 64 attack helicoper. And why Philippine Big country and is one of the weakest in the world ? can anybody tell me why ? why philippine air focre cant fly thier F 5E ?

    Only in the Philippines my friend.. Answer to your question is Politics..

  10. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by khaylim View Post
    hi , im a friends came from Singapore ,and i wonder why Philippine Airforce - One of the weakest in the world ? and why ? Well ,here in Singapore we are small country ,here the airforce we got F-16 C/D, F-16 C Block 50 Block 52 , A-4 SykHawk , F-15 SG , F-5E, AH 64 attack helicoper. And why Philippine Big country and is one of the weakest in the world ? can anybody tell me why ? why philippine air focre cant fly thier F 5E ?
    it's simply because there are some factors involved and priorities taken.

    "For almost five decades, the Philippines has been involved in internal security operations, conducting successive counter-insurgency campaigns against communist insurgents and Muslim secessionists. For external threats, the US base, in the Philippines, until their withdrawal in 1992, provided effective deterrence and protective umbrella. The reliance on US military support and the preoccupation with counter-insurgency are two important factors which hindered the development of an external defense capability on the part of the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

    Emphasis on internal security operations has placed considerable attention to the development of ground force capabilities as the Philippine Army spearheads the counter-insurgency campaign. In the conduct of COIN operations, the Philippine Air Force provides limited close air support for ground operations using both fixed and rotary-wing assets. It also Provides essential air mobility for the movement of troops and logistics. The Marine Corps performs ground operations against insurgents particularly in the Sulu Archipelago. The Philippine Navy occasionally provides naval gunfire support and sea lift assets. Air Force maritime patrol aircraft and Navy ships and patrol vessels provide limited capability for maritime surveillance and interdiction.

    In addition to combat missions, Air Force, Navy and Army resources are mobilized for non-combat missions like search and rescue, disaster relief and rehabilitation, infrastructure development, civic action and support to other government agencies and NGOs.

    A closer look at the Present inventory of AFP inventory today indicates that even it ground capability has been the primary focus of force development for several decades, air and naval capabilities have not been neglected and have been maintained at a modest level.

    AFP MODERNIZATION

    It is apparent that the Armed Forces of the Philippines needs to modernize. It needs to invest in new platforms and new technology, to develop new defense concepts and doctrine, to restructure the organization. Acquisition of modern arms is not only to replace aging weapons and equipment but more importantly, to enable the Armed Fores to effectively face greatly expanded tasks in defense and nation-building well into the future.

    The 15-year AFP Modernization Program, currently underway, is the centerpiece program in the force modernization process. This is supported by various modernization programs of a lesser scale but nonetheless vital to the development of the Armed Forces into a modern military organization. These modernization programs are designed to upgrade defense capabilities particularly in the areas of information technology, mobility, command, control and communications.

    The AFP Modernization Program was approved by Congress last December 19, 1996 following the passing of Republic Act 7898 or the AFP Modernization Law last February 23, 1995. The primary objective of the program is essentially to upgrade and enhance the military capability of the Armed Forces of the Philippines with particular emphasis on air and naval capabilities.

    It is important to realize that the modernization of the AFP is a long term process: 15 years for the acquisition process and as long as 22 years for the payment period. The 15-year acquisition period is subdivide into three five-year periods with platforms and weapons programmed for procurement in each phase.

    A major feature of the AFP Modernization Program is the support it offers to local defense industries as well as important benefits to the nation's industrial base. This can be done through various schemes of technology transfer, co-production and joint ventures with local companies. This is a big boost to the Self-Reliant Defense Posture Program being vigorously pursued by the government.

    Another unique feature is the countertrade scheme which can be used to introduce now technologies and industrial skills in the Philippines while helping conserve foreign exchange and balance of trade.

    The Department of National Defense is continuously working towards the establishment of a rational and effective project management system that will manage the implementation of the various modernization projects based on efficiency, ethics and "value for money".

    AFP MODERNIZATION PROGRAM
    (Equipment Acquisition)
    AIR FORCE

    Multi-Role Fighter ([Subprogram I] 24, [subprogram II] 12)
    Surface Attack Aircraft ( 12, 12)
    Light Lift Aircraft ( 0, 9)
    Medium Lift Aircraft ( 0, 6)
    Heavy Lift Aircraft (0, 2)
    Search and Rescue Helicopter ( 3, 9)
    Heavy Lift Helicopter (2, 2)
    Long Range Patrol Aircraft ( 6, 0)
    Air Defense Radar ( 6, 0)

    source: resdal.org, 1998
    Last edited by giddyboy; 12-30-2008 at 01:50 PM.

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