Matthew 16:18, Catholic Church

[Pein]

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Christianity is a religion that is founded on hate for the catholic church. I don't think a religion that is founded on hate is guided by the holy spirit. Even on criticism on the catholic church, you can easily feel hate in their words... hate belongs to satan.

Rom 12:9 Let love be without deceit. Be haters of what is evil; keep your minds fixed on what is good.

If you hate evil, does it also mean you belong to satan?

[aztina888]

hahayz daghana bag mga MR. Knowitall dri oie.. hala padayun sa inyo gi bati.
RC= anti-Christ
RC= Cancer of the Society
RC= Doomed into the eternal fires of hell
RC= demonyo... hala cge sumpayi pa hihihihi

[baliguat]

@ cottonmouth and other anti-RC

Thats your riights coz this is a forums, saying anything bad against our Mother Church is your Freedom.... Pero naka tutok pa gihapon ang among Faith through the Saints, how they suffer and sacrifice for our Faith. True Catholic (Christ believers) is not belong in this ruineouss place (Earth). Basaha ninyo life ni St. Anthony the Great, St. Benedict, And Saint Pachomius... Tingali makita ninyo how to feed our Spirit not our flesh. But it is Sad as the reality nga ang pamuyo sa tawo karon komplikado na tungod sa ka High tech na ang panahon. Mao daghan pud ang tentasyon. Ang pag higugma sa imong isigkatawo is ang pag buhat sa ingon ug usab ang pag ampo ngadto para sa uban. Si Saint Francis of Assisi, Kaila mo niya? Mismo ang mga Pari ug Obispo sa iyahang Panahon gibati ug kasuya, sa dihang (Na convert na xa ) gipakita nya sa mga tao kung unsay tinood nga pag ampo ug pag sunod kang kristo apan gisunog pa sa Obispo ang Simbahan nga ilahang gitukod kuyog ang mga Kabus. Sa diahng mi adto xa sa Rome , wala xa Pasudla kay Baho(Bad odor) tungod kay Hermitanyo man lagi. Apan sa dihang gipakita ug gibasa niya atubangan sa Pope ang Fraciscan Rule, Miluhod ang Pope ug mihalok sa iyahang tiil ug ming siga ang mga mata sa mga arogante nga naka kita. Si Saint Benedict Gikasuyaan pud ug usa ka Pari apan nag mada-ogon gihapon siya tungod sa maka mapa ubsanon ug di gayod madinumtanon ug i ampo pa gani ang kaaway nga hina-ot malamdagan ug mag bag-o nah.

" Ug nganong Mag tigum man ug bahanding Kalibutanon nga matay-an man lang" St. Francis of Assisi

Mga Kaigso-onan ayaw ninyo laina pag sabot ang ako gi post ha. Inigsoon lang ni akoa. Salamat

[tribu]

The Difference Between Catholicism and Christianity

Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity?

Answer: Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are divergent religions. They are built on different foundations, and they propose different ways of salvation.

In principle, Christianity is built solely on the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. The Bible is our only infallible rule of faith, being sufficient to give us the sure knowledge of the Gospel for our salvation and holiness.

Roman Catholicism demands submission of the intellect and will to the doctrines taught by the Roman magisterium (the Pope and bishops). It is claimed that the Catholic Church derives its doctrines from the "sacred deposit" found in Scriptures and Sacred Tradition. However the faithful cannot verify these doctrines by referring to the original sources. The Scriptures are inaccessible because only the magisterium is able to establish the authentic meaning. Similarly the contents of Sacred Tradition can only be known through the magisterium. Roman Catholicism is mental and spiritual slavery to the Vatican.

As expected, since the foundations are different, so also are the edifices built upon them. Christianity stands on the Gospel of God's sovereign grace. In love, God predestines His chosen ones to be adopted as sons through Jesus Christ, their sole mediator. The Son became man and gave His life as a ransom to secure their freedom from sin. Being dead in sin, they are completely unable to convert ourselves or merit God's favour. Therefore God graciously grants His people repentance and faith to turn to Him and trust in Christ Jesus for salvation. Believers are accepted in Christ, solely on the merit of His righteousness and blood, and not because of any goodness or human merit. God also resides in His people by the Holy Spirit, enabling them to obey and glorify the Father, and to guarantee their inheritance in heaven forever.

Rome's "gospel" is not good news at all. The Roman institution, calling itself "The Church", usurps Christ's mediatorial office, proclaiming herself as the "sacrament of salvation." The "Church" dispenses salvation to her faithful in small portions, starting at baptism and continuing throughout life. Forgiveness can only be obtained through the sacrament of penance. The benefits of Christ's sacrifice are accessible through the sacrifice of the Mass. Instead of teaching the faithful to rest in Christ by faith, Catholics are taught to perform religious works to "merit grace" and to do penance to make satisfaction. Even after death, Catholics remains dependent on the "Church" to relieve their suffering in Purgatory by masses and indulgences.

The Roman Catholic Church is a mighty obstacle to anyone seeking salvation, enslaving millions of people to a religious system and preventing them from coming directly to Christ.

The choice is between the Bible and the Roman magisterium; the choice is between salvation by grace through faith in Christ, or through human merit and effort in the Roman religion.


IF your a catholic then you are not a Christian. END.

true biblical christianity is not built solely on the bible. there was no bible at the time of the apostles. there's nothing in the bible that says the BIBLE (the one christians are using today) is the pillar and foundation of truth. instead we see something very important, and that is the proclamation that "the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth" and that church is a hierarchy where the elders' authority are received from elders who passed on their authority thru laying of hands.

and examples of these well organized hierarchy are found in the letters to timothy and titus. as well as in the other letters, it always mentions elders, presbyters and deacons. an evidence of a well organized hierarchy. thus we read this simple words from the book itself "...how can you preach unless you are sent..." and how do they send preachers to the community? read the book of acts, and it says "they lay hands of them..."

and what are these new churches doing when they sent new pastors/ministers? they do the same thing, they lay hand on those whom they wish to send. but can they trace their ordination to the apostles? that's the most important question because the bible had already set the rules. to break that rule is to be unbiblical or else why need anyone to lay their hands on your head when all you need is a book and the holy spirit?

what was called scriptures at the time of the apostles were the jewish scriptures and their letters are admonitions to follow the teachings of these scriptures and yet they too have the power to lose and bind. to change the law like what they did in the council of jerusalem. it is because it is the church, the hierarchy that is the pillar and foundation of truth, the hierarchy that hold the authority to lose and bind. it is not the bible that guided the church, it is the magisterium, the hierarchy to whom authority emanates, because it was to them that jesus spoke these words "whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, whatever you loose on earth shall be loose in heaven..."

if you really believe that jesus is wiser than solomon then you know why he did what he did. because he know that without visible authority, his church will not survive this long. that is why manalo and quiboloy himself are already trying to copy the way jesus organized his church so as to solidify their power and one day proclaim themselves as demi-gods. and that is also exactly why the catholic church had survived for hundreds of years. catholicism alongside the eastern orthodox churches had the stronger and more solid claim to being able to trace their authority if not to the apostles themselves at least to the apostle's disciples.

[tokidoki]

Nice proverb:

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you a mechanic.

[baliguat]

Nice proverb but sometimes it can be use as an excuse---- not go to the Church anymore.

[tokidoki]

actually akong sabot niya kai katong mga tao na naa na sa sulod.

[dartzed]

ahahahaha anywayz so much for the fun lets get serious...

The Difference Between Catholicism and Christianity

Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity?

Answer: Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are divergent religions. They are built on different foundations, and they propose different ways of salvation.

In principle, Christianity is built solely on the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. The Bible is our only infallible rule of faith, being sufficient to give us the sure knowledge of the Gospel for our salvation and holiness.

hehehehe naa dai bible sa una?... are you sure its all in the bible?... i doubt it, its not all in there trust me not all things in the world are written...

Roman Catholicism demands submission of the intellect and will to the doctrines taught by the Roman magisterium (the Pope and bishops). It is claimed that the Catholic Church derives its doctrines from the "sacred deposit" found in Scriptures and Sacred Tradition. However the faithful cannot verify these doctrines by referring to the original sources. The Scriptures are inaccessible because only the magisterium is able to establish the authentic meaning. Similarly the contents of Sacred Tradition can only be known through the magisterium. Roman Catholicism is mental and spiritual slavery to the Vatican.

As expected, since the foundations are different, so also are the edifices built upon them. Christianity stands on the Gospel of God's sovereign grace. In love, God predestines His chosen ones to be adopted as sons through Jesus Christ, their sole mediator. The Son became man and gave His life as a ransom to secure their freedom from sin. Being dead in sin, they are completely unable to convert ourselves or merit God's favour. Therefore God graciously grants His people repentance and faith to turn to Him and trust in Christ Jesus for salvation. Believers are accepted in Christ, solely on the merit of His righteousness and blood, and not because of any goodness or human merit. God also resides in His people by the Holy Spirit, enabling them to obey and glorify the Father, and to guarantee their inheritance in heaven forever.

Rome's "gospel" is not good news at all. The Roman institution, calling itself "The Church", usurps Christ's mediatorial office, proclaiming herself as the "sacrament of salvation." The "Church" dispenses salvation to her faithful in small portions, starting at baptism and continuing throughout life. Forgiveness can only be obtained through the sacrament of penance. The benefits of Christ's sacrifice are accessible through the sacrifice of the Mass. Instead of teaching the faithful to rest in Christ by faith, Catholics are taught to perform religious works to "merit grace" and to do penance to make satisfaction. Even after death, Catholics remains dependent on the "Church" to relieve their suffering in Purgatory by masses and indulgences.

this is the reason y many religious sectors are sprouting like mushrooms now... its because of what they called "guided by the holy spirit"... ahahahaha its like reading the bible and there came satan who pretended to be "Holy" and the reader said ohh im free(the truth will set you free) i think im guided by the holy spirit and im gonna make a new religion!!.. bang!!..

you're telling us that RCs remain dependent of the church?.. of course we do, coz they are the ones who guides our fellow members religiously and thats according to SCRIPTURE of course, i think all religious sects man cguro nagbuhat ana.. kinsa man dre nga sukad pagkabata kaila na kinsa ang ginuo ug kabaw na sa dapat buhaton pagserve niya?.. ang mamakak kilatan unta!!...

"Even after death, Catholics remains dependent on the "Church" to relieve their suffering in Purgatory by masses and indulgences"
thats because we believe in purgatory and you guys dont. we believe that the sinful dead might be save from their sins if they would repent. (my proof read maccabees 2 chapter 12 but if you are not a RC well to bad its not in your bible hehehehe) oi nganu kaha wala sa ila bible nya ang bible raba ang ila gisundan sa kaluwasan.. wa dai klaro ato kaluwasan ani kay kuwang man?..

The Roman Catholic Church is a mighty obstacle to anyone seeking salvation, enslaving millions of people to a religious system and preventing them from coming directly to Christ.

hmmmmm wala dai sa inyo bible bro nga pwede sad ang church or pari?.. have not God told us to go to the preist?.. read james chapter 5:14-16..

The choice is between the Bible and the Roman magisterium; the choice is between salvation by grace through faith in Christ, or through human merit and effort in the Roman religion.

ahahaha nagingon ba dai ang RC nga ang makaluwas ang religion ang romano katoloko ra?...

IF your a catholic then you are not a Christian. END.

speaking of self-righteousness who are you to judge are you God?...

a final word though that thing you called bible was just a compilation of the written words/stories gathered arround the world by the RC now asa kaha gikan inyo bible sah?.. ky kung gikan nas RC pasabot d sad mo christian like you said "IF your a catholic then you are not a Christian" RC compiled the bible..

hmmmmmmmm

[aztina888]

naa nako bag.ong master, COTTONMOUTH.. puro cotton ang sud sa imu mouth master?
hihihihi

[chad_tukes]

libog ko ni cottonmouth. is he catholic or christian? if he's catholic, then he's like saying he's not a christian. if he's christian, then his last post in bold letters signifies that he's a christian because he's not catholic.

haha libuga.