Matthew 16:18, Catholic Church

[NASYO]

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ok.. salamat..

[Hellblazer 2.1]

history for me weighs heavier than a mere book agreed by most people to be sacred. once you know the history of what happened in the past, it will then all make sense.

[NASYO]

bitaw, mura gud philippine history.

kung kinsa ang nagpa-antos nato sa 300 ka anyos, ang ila pa jud hinagiban nga mao ang relihiyon atong

gikumkum.

sunod2X dayon ang uban.

buhat sad cla dayon ug kulto.

[rcruman]

gibutang didto sa biblia nga "upon THIS ROCK" dili "UPON YOU PETER".

Peace!

[NASYO]

puede sad.

upon this rock = diha sa bato
rock = peter? petra = peter? rock = peter?

upon this peter? sayop na ang grammar..

unsa man jud?

[rcruman]

puede sad.

upon this rock = diha sa bato
rock = peter? petra = peter? rock = peter?

upon this peter? sayop na ang grammar..

unsa man jud?

bro kuyawa nimo sa bahalag imo usbon ang bible masakto lang ka.
Bro ang PETER kay dili rock ang equivalent kungdi small stone.

ako pangutana nimo kay kini:

PILA KABUOK NAGISTORYA SA MATTHEW 16:18?

nindota nimog analogy bro, hayag pa sa alketran.

PEace!

[NASYO]

peter = small stone

ilogical na sad kung magtukod ug simbahan sa small stone, sa rock jud na

naa man na symbolism.

kabantay ka anang passage nga kung magtukod ug balay sa ibabao sa bato, lig-on kini
ug dili sayon tumpagon?

murag simbahan nga katoliko ba.

lig-on, dili sayon tumpagon.

kadaghan na ni-try ug tumpag niini, apan nagpabilin man japon lig-on

mao na ang simbahan, naa sa rock gihimo, upon THIS rock.

kinsa mna ang nagpabuhat sa simbahan?

answer: kristo

kinsa ang nagbuhat ug simbahan?

answer: pedro, mao ang kina-unhan na pari sa katoliko

klaro na?

ngutana lang

[rcruman]

visit this link for you to know that PETER is Petros not Petra.

Interlinear Study Bible on StudyLight.org

and the ROCK is CHRIST.


Peace!

[necrotic freak]

visit this link for you to know that PETER is Petros not Petra.

Interlinear Study Bible on StudyLight.org

and the ROCK is CHRIST.


Peace!

since you want everyone to visit your link. i will also copy n paste this link and let the people here decide for themselves.


Look at the passage carefully:

"And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter (Petros), and on this rock (petra) I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:16-18 RSV)

To whom does Jesus actually give the name "rock"? Himself? No. Faith? No. He gave it to Simon Peter, just as Jesus had promised earlier:

"Jesus looked at him, and said, 'So, you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas' (which means Peter). (John 1:42 RSV)

Jesus gives the new name to "you" (singular pronoun): that is, Simon Peter. And He continues, "you (singular pronoun) are Rock".

Certainly there are other passages that describe Christ as "rock", but these are different passages and different contexts. Further, Jesus is not the only individual Scripture calls "rock". What about Abraham? Scripture quotes God Himself referring to Abraham as "rock"…

Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock [whence] ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit [whence] ye are digged. Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah [that] bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him. (Isaiah 51:1-2 KJV)

Obviously this does not contradict passages that call Christ "rock", nor does it mean that Abraham is Christ. Metaphors are used in various contexts in different ways, and the application of the metaphor "rock" to Abraham clearly does not prevent its subsequent application to Jesus or Simon Peter in a different sense and a different context. To argue otherwise is to weave an uneven fabric of passages related merely by their usage of the word "rock", ignoring their different contexts.

Rejecting Peter as "rock" because Christ is "Rock" is a mistake, and requires denying the plain and correct meaning of this unambiguous passage.

In verse 18 Jesus clearly names Simon Peter as "rock". Jesus then expands the metaphor by presenting Himself as the divine builder, Who has designated the foundation upon which He chooses to build His Church. Note that in this metaphor, Jesus is the architect and builder, not the foundation. Just as the Lord "digged" His people from the rock of Abraham, who became "father of many nations" (Genesis 17:5), so also the Lord founded His Church upon the foundation rock of Simon Peter. Do we claim that Peter is equal to Christ, or that Peter is a perfect man, or that he made himself the Rock? Of course not. We simply recognize that Jesus gave Peter a unique and foundational role essential to the structure of the Church.

Jesus gave Peter the authority and assistance to shepherd the Church in right teaching and holy discipline. Therefore,

ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone]; (Ephesians 2:19-20 KJV)

[NASYO]

kanindot jud.. nindot jud kaayo..

sa uban nga dominasyon, unta malamdagan mo..

usa ra baya ta sa una, ngano nikalas man mo oi?

mga rebeldehon jud mo. Masuko ra ba si Lord sa mga masupakon.