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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoTech View Post
    Salvation is only through faith, works are not included for your salvation. Works are just results of your faith. Faith that is alive ALWAYS results to works but it doesn't mean that you need to work to save yourself. Christ already has done all the work for people who trusted in Him for their salvation.
    So you mean to say I can kill anyone and will not be sent to hell as long as I have absolute faith and I will be saved? Lock and load.

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    Naa instance nga dili mag tugma other versions pero naa pud mag tugma. Take note these are different versions, so we really need to find out which is the most reliable and faithfully translated among these versions. So it would only be the King James Authorized 1611 Version.
    Some versions are made to corrupt the scripture. In this video it explained in detail the omissions the alterations of other bible versions to corrupt scripture and its meaning.
    https://youtu.be/tNv-zzpIwBs

    If you watch the video you should have concluded which bible stands as the true word of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.Naay daghan but if you see this in a whole biblical context these are not killings without just cause.Although ang king james version ra ang using the word killing but if you look at the whole biblical context it could only mean "murder".
    king james version exodus 20:13 13 Thou shalt not kill.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...13&version=KJV

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Kung adto ka sa original language which is Hebrew mao na sya ang meaning murder..No mahimo ra man nang extra judicial kun way judgment pero sa ila case naa man.. Ang Dios mismo nihukom.
    so unsa may atong sundon nga mahug nga correct translation? kay matud sa bible dili nato pun-an dili pwede ilisdan bisan unsa ka tuldok man lang.karon unsa man jud pasabot anang extra judicial killing nga ilang gi condemn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostie2472 View Post
    So you mean to say I can kill anyone and will not be sent to hell as long as I have absolute faith and I will be saved? Lock and load.
    And Why would You Kill someone just like that if you have Faith in God? God Said love your enemy nya mupatay ka, Faith diay ghapon na? I think a lot of people Dont relly know what a Real Faith means that's why they confused it with good works. Faith is NOT just NITOO, its more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luci_morningstar View Post
    And Why would You Kill someone just like that if you have Faith in God? God Said love your enemy nya mupatay ka, Faith diay ghapon na? I think a lot of people Dont relly know what a Real Faith means that's why they confused it with good works. Faith is NOT just NITOO, its more than that.
    then why those angels sent by God to distroy sodom and gomurah kill those civilization? does it mean those angel doesn't have faith in God?if they love their enemy as commanded by God then why do they kill those people?

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    so unsa may atong sundon nga mahug nga correct translation? kay matud sa bible dili nato pun-an dili pwede ilisdan bisan unsa ka tuldok man lang.karon unsa man jud pasabot anang extra judicial killing nga ilang gi condemn?
    If kabalo ka na ang meaning sa "kill" diha kay murder then it would not matter. Extra judicial kill is murder and it should not be supported. Per death penalty lain na pud nang storya.. di man na extra judicial killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    king james version exodus 20:13 13 Thou shalt not kill.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...13&version=KJV

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    so unsa may atong sundon nga mahug nga correct translation? kay matud sa bible dili nato pun-an dili pwede ilisdan bisan unsa ka tuldok man lang.karon unsa man jud pasabot anang extra judicial killing nga ilang gi condemn?
    Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.

    if you see this in a whole biblical context these are not killings without just cause.

    Although ang king james version ra ang using the word killing but if you look at the whole biblical context it could only mean "murder".

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    Don't do it because you want to be saved. Do it because you want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    If kabalo ka na ang meaning sa "kill" diha kay murder then it would not matter. Extra judicial kill is murder and it should not be supported. Per death penalty lain na pud nang storya.. di man na extra judicial killing.
    unya nata moadto sa definition between murder and kill ato sang sulbaron ang wala pa ninyo tubaga nga pangutana unsa nga version atong sundon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.

    if you see this in a whole biblical context these are not killings without just cause.

    Although ang king james version ra ang using the word killing but if you look at the whole biblical context it could only mean "murder".
    kita diha sa link nga ako gi provide saKJV kill ang gibutang dili murder ngano ipamugos man nimo ng murder...naa nasad ning mga meaning2x whole context2x naa man sa bible diba dili pa ilisan padungangan pa pun-an nga mag buot2x man mog puno or ilis worst mohatag pag meaning or translation definition
    Last edited by slabdans; 08-06-2016 at 12:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    unya nata moadto sa definition between murder and kill ato sang sulbaron ang wala pa ninyo tubaga nga pangutana unsa nga version atong sundon

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    kita diha sa link nga ako gi provide saKJV kill ang gibutang dili murder ngano ipamugos man nimo ng murder...naa nasad ning mga meaning2x whole context2x naa man sa bible diba dili pa ilisan padungangan pa pun-an nga mag buot2x man mog puno or ilis worst mohatag pag meaning or translation definition
    Do you have any biblical proof that this doen't mean murder? Or any scriptural proof? Ie other passages nga nag proove dili cya murder.
    If none then this is the end of this conversation since you're not here to learn of the gospel but to criticize and twist its meaning.

    Mao ning problema sa mga twisted interpretation. Parehas anang John 3:16- so we just need to believe in Jesus to be saved? Yes that is true but does that mean we can murder, steal cheat and covet but just believe in Jesus and you will be saved? I feel sorry for you if that is how narrow your understanding is and you need help in understanding the scriptures and not in a position criticize or interpret.

    Mao when you need to know the meaning of that verse or if its questionable naay lain bible verse that will help you interpret the true meaning or intention of the verse.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 08-06-2016 at 01:04 PM.

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