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    Aquino vetoes salary hike for nurses | Sun.Star



    PRESIDENT Benigno Aquino III has vetoed a bill seeking to increase the basic pay of nurses from P18,000 to 25,000, Malacaņang said Thursday.

    "In his message, President Aquino noted that the minimum base pay for entry-level nurses has already been increased through Executive Order No. 201, series of 2016, which raised their total guaranteed annual compensation from P228,924.00 to P344,074.00, apart from other benefits and allowances they receive, such as the Magna Carta of Public Health," Communications Secretary Herminio Coloma Jr. said.


    The bill enhances the power of the Board of Nursing by creating task forces and offices to organize itself and facilitate its function and pursue its program. It also aims to increase the minimum base pay for nurses from Salary Grade 11 (P18,549) to Salary Grade 15 (P25,000).


    In a message to Senate President Franklin Drilon and House Speaker Feliciano Belmonte, Aquino said that increasing further the entry-level salary grades for nurses by four grades "will undermine the existing government salary structure and cause wage distortion not only among medical health care practitioners but also among other professionals in the government service."


    The President noted that the current salaries of nurses in the country are same as the salaries of other government-professionals like teachers and accountants.


    Such proposed pay hike, he said, would entail the passage of several laws, the comprehensive review of the existing salary structures of health professionals and other government employees, and a consequent exponential growth in the budgetary requirements of the government.


    "The proposed bill increasing the entry level salary for nurses by four upgrades places the salaries of nurses over and above their other similarly situated counterparts in the health profession and government service," Aquino said.


    "This bill not only affects the fiscal concerns of the government, but also the financial viability of private hospitals and non-government health institutions, which are also mandated by the bill to offer an amount equivalent to SG-15 as minimum base pay for entry level nurses," he added.


    In a statement, Ang Nars Party-list Representative Leah Primitiva Paquiz said the President's veto neglects the rights of the nurses.


    "Saying no to Comprehensive Nursing Law is like saying no to nurses' welfare and rights," Paquiz said.

    Senator Antonio Trillanes IV, principal sponsor of the measure, was "deeply" saddened that the President vetoed the bill, which aims to prevent nurses from leaving the country since their salaries will increase.


    Trillanes, however, assured that he would file a similar bill in the 17th Congress.


    "This could have been the measure that would improve our healthcare sector and help stop the mass exodus of our nurses to other countries. Regardless, be assured that we will refile the bill and continue to push for its passage in the next Congress," the senator said. (Sunnex)

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    Sadly for us nurses, nag excess man gyud ta.
    Sa economy class, dapat balance ang supply and demand.
    Pero sa ato sitwasyon mga nurses, ang supply sobra2 and demand gamay ra,
    so dispensable kau ta mga nurses.
    Mao if wala plano mag abroad, sugod na plano change career.
    I did it 4yrs ago, stopped working as a nurse, went to school, got a new career, hopefully next year maka swerte, another new career nig pasar sa Bar exam.

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    This is what happens when some people like our current President do not understand the risks and hazards involved that healthcare providers like nurses undergo everyday. Why is it that only in the Philippines a job that entails total patient care, administering medications, sleepless night-shift hours, exposure to unknown diseases, working 12 to 16-hour shifts with sometimes no proper compensation, constant abuse from some doctors, peers, and patients, not to mention the physical, mental, emotional, and psychological strain cannot even get a decent day's wage for all these?

    Give me a fair justification for a salary of 10-12k a month and maybe i'd consider my stand. The bill only even asks for 25k which is the salary of an average call center agent. 25k is not even enough for the struggles nurses endures while working here in the Philippines.

    And oh! Some hospitals don't even have health insurance, uniform allowance, and other benefits other companies give their employees!
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    Seriously


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    One can choose not to be a nurse and yes, compensation is most usually dictated by supply and demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracie7 View Post
    This is what happens when some people like our current President do not understand the risks and hazards involved that healthcare providers like nurses undergo everyday. Why is it that only in the Philippines a job that entails total patient care, administering medications, sleepless night-shift hours, exposure to unknown diseases, working 12 to 16-hour shifts with sometimes no proper compensation, constant abuse from some doctors, peers, and patients, not to mention the physical, mental, emotional, and psychological strain cannot even get a decent day's wage for all these?

    Give me a fair justification for a salary of 10-12k a month and maybe i'd consider my stand. The bill only even asks for 25k which is the salary of an average call center agent. 25k is not even enough for the struggles nurses endures while working here in the Philippines.

    And oh! Some hospitals don't even have health insurance, uniform allowance, and other benefits other companies give their employees!
    I am with you miss. This was strongly pursued by Trillanes and Poe before raising the minimum by 26k for Public Nurses and 50k for Public Doctors since 2012, but unfortunately our president, evidently, needs rewiring.

    Haskang bogo-a gyud aning toy2 dugay na ning naa sa iyang lamisa nga Act, karon pa gi veto. It's either nangamong ni cya or palagot sa kontra ra ni. Anyway, wish Du30 will reinstate this Act once again.

    I once read a rappler article about doctors pursuing another career abroad and same with nurses turning into caregivers just to get out of this shithole of a healthcare system but on the other hand, govt sectors are worried about the leftovers dealing with our patients, whose skills are subpar according to them.

    NZ nurses receive 75k$ a year and MDs receive 150k-160k$ a year. US nurses are +10% higher. A filipino surgeon (a senior fellow) in Cook County that I am well acquainted with is receiving US300k$. Meanwhile, in the Phils, everything is bound by lapses, not just on salaries but the system itself from health insurances to facilities.
    Last edited by brownie; 06-17-2016 at 10:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    I am with you miss. This was strongly pursued by Trillanes and Poe before raising the minimum by 26k for Public Nurses and 50k for Public Doctors since 2012, but unfortunately our president, evidently, needs rewiring.

    Haskang bogo-a gyud aning toy2 dugay na ning naa sa iyang lamisa nga Act, karon pa gi veto. It's either nangamong ni cya or palagot sa kontra ra ni. Anyway, wish Du30 will reinstate this Act once again.

    I once read a rappler article about doctors pursuing another career abroad and same with nurses turning into caregivers just to get out of this shithole of a healthcare system but on the other hand, govt sectors are worried about the leftovers dealing with our patients, whose skills are subpar according to them.

    NZ nurses receive 75k$ a year and MDs receive 150k-160k$ a year. US nurses are +10% higher. A filipino surgeon (a senior fellow) I am well acquainted with is receiving US350k$. Meanwhile, in the Phils, everything is bound lapses, not just on salaries but the system itself from health insurances to facilities.
    Yes I've read that too before, the sad reality of our healthcare practitioners in the Philippines.
    Maayo ni pasuwayon ang hospitals na walay nurse uy, awon natoh maunsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C'thulhu View Post
    One can choose not to be a nurse and yes, compensation is most usually dictated by supply and demand.
    What if it's their passion to be one, dba?
    Supply and demand, sus patient ratio sa Pinas pila? 1 is to 1 ward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracie7 View Post
    Yes I've read that too before, the sad reality of our healthcare practitioners in the Philippines.
    Maayo ni pasuwayon ang hospitals na walay nurse uy, awon natoh maunsa.

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    What if it's their passion to be one, dba?
    Supply and demand, sus patient ratio sa Pinas pila? 1 is to 1 ward?
    the supply and demand is just pure BS. 1:30 average layout ratio in every govt hospital. i've seen it and i can prove it. a great pack of nurses are in the bpo right now due to salary issues, the remaining ones love their nursing job maski gamay sweldo.

    but a lot of nurses now in both private and public are able to make it to 14k, some have regular 15k pay because of duty. CI on the other hand receive an hourly wage, afaik and they are happy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownie View Post
    the supply and demand is just pure BS. 1:30 average layout ratio in every govt hospital. i've seen it and i can prove it. a great pack of nurses are in the bpo right now due to salary issues, the remaining ones love their nursing job maski gamay sweldo.

    but a lot of nurses now in both private and public are able to make it to 14k now, some have regular 15k pay because of duty. CI on the other hand receive an hourly wage, afaik and they are happy though.
    Not just 30 gyud, 1 ward 45-60 usahay
    I've seen and experienced it. Yes call centers and ESL. Some that are practicing are those who have plans to go abroad, for experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracie7 View Post
    What if it's their passion to be one, dba?
    Supply and demand, sus patient ratio sa Pinas pila? 1 is to 1 ward?
    Yes if it is one's passion, then one has to work for it. So far sa senior positions in private hospitals competitive naman pod ang compensation. And if kulang jud ang supply, it is only natural na mu increase pod ang compensation due to the need to attract applicants.

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