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  1. #491

    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    kanang critique diha gikan na sa akong observation sa inyong doktrina.

    imo nako pahunongon kay takilid naka?
    I suggest you stop coz no matter what we say paraka ra ghapon kag sabot and pataka ra kag present sa imong statements about the concept of Christianity.

    And most importantly off topic nani nga discussion, which has gone too far unnoticed.

    Btw: your observation in Christian doctrine is lacking and shallow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Canaanites did not kill people they just burn their infants.
    Secular sources:
    In the Hebrew Bible Tophet or Topheth (Hebrew: תופת ha-tōpheth‎; Greek: Ταφεθ; Latin: Topheth) was a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where worshipers influenced by the Canaanite Pantheon sacrificed children to the gods Moloch and Baal by burning them alive.
    Carthage was notorious to its neighbors for child sacrifice. Plutarch (ca. 46–120 AD) mentions the practice, as do Tertullian, Orosius and Diodorus Siculus. However, Livy and Polybius do not. The Hebrew Bible also mentions what appears to be child sacrifice practiced at a place called the Tophet ("roasting place") by the Canaanites
    The Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for worshipers in Judah to burn their own children alive as sacrifices to the idols Moloch and Baal. One section of the Hinnom Valley was called Topheth (also spelled Tophet or Topeth), where the children were slaughtered (2 Kings 23:10). The name Topheth is derived from either, or both, the Hebrew word toph, meaning a drum, because the cries of children being sacrificed by the priests of Moloch were masked by the sound of the beating on drums or tambourines

    Canaanite God Moloch:
    Moloch worship was practiced by the*Canaanites,Phoenicians, and related cultures in*North Africa*and the*Levant*(see detailed presentation of sources below).
    As a god worshiped by the*Phoenicians*andCanaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of*propitiatory*child sacrificeby parents. Many ancient sources, presented throughout the article, attest to this (the following citation of Leviticus, and that of Diodorus Siculus, below, are two examples). Moloch figures in the*Book of Deuteronomyand in the*Book of Leviticus*as a form ofidolatry*(Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch"). In the Old Testament,*Gehenna*was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various*Baalim*and Canaanite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6;Jer. 7:31, 19:2–6).

    Biblical sources:
    “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I didn't command, nor did it come into my mind. Therefore, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of Slaughter: for they shall bury in Topheth, until there be no place [to bury]. The dead bodies of this people shall be food for the birds of the sky, and for the animals of the earth; and none shall frighten them away. Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride; for the land shall become a waste.” Jeremiah 7:31-34

    The canaanite religion begin to influence the Israelites
    "Cut off thy hair, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the high hills; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath.
    For the children of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight, saith the LORD; they have set their detestable things in the house whereon My name is called, to defile it.
    And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into My mind.
    Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter; for they shall bury in Topheth, for lack of room.

    Canaanite Opress the Israelite
    “And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles. 3And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel”

    The Flood:
    Man was corrupted and intermarried with Fallen Angels, produced half breeds.

    That the sons of God(fallen angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
    3*And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    4*There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    I have a theory that Since fallen angels intermarried with man kind and bore children. This is to save the purity of humanity and degredation of the Human creation. How abominable it could have been intermingling with demons and fallen angels and even having children with them.
    "And God saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

    How much more evil humanity is capable of if they are half breed demons.

    And who is your God then? When you say"that's your god to know not mine".
    We have explained our side how about about your god?
    I still dont see any good reason nganong tanan ang pamatyon, instead of maybe creating a scheme to change them...
    but with gods omnipotency i wonder how he was not able to prevent that from happening to begin with, or likely he was just trolling around, because he himself commanded child sacrifice in Exodus 22:29, and he was also guilty of killing children in egypt, double standard if you ask me...

    and marrying fallen angels? half-breed demons? wtf? that sounds like a cheap movie plot, lol...
    and you believe something like that really happened? lol..
    i always say this and i say it again to you., i can tell that you're intellectually capable, and it's sad that you're wasting it in ancient superstitions, lol, wala paka nakasabot?,
    but i understand 'coz ive been there, done that..
    but whatever man that's your life not mine..

  3. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    I suggest you stop coz no matter what we say paraka ra ghapon kag sabot and pataka ra kag present sa imong statements about the concept of Christianity.

    And most importantly off topic nani nga discussion, which has gone too far unnoticed.

    Btw: your observation in Christian doctrine is lacking and shallow.
    hahahaahahahaa...........

    now i can see nga delikado to akong gi post kay nangusog jud ka og discredit sa akong abilidad. wa man gani ka pa pinpoint kung asa dapita weak ang akong observation hahahahahaaha.

  4. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    wa man gani ka pa pinpoint kung asa dapita weak ang akong observation hahahahahaaha.
    FYI:

    all of these below are weak interpretation sa concept sa Christianity.

    gibuhat sa inyong creator ang creation, nya kay ni kontra man, iyang patyon.

    so ato pa, nagbuhat siya ug iyang kaugalingong kontra pala lang iyang patyon. kalooy pod, gitagaan og existence para lang patyon.
    syaro sa iyang pagka gamhanan wa siya kita kung unsay mahitabo?
    wa na lang unta siya nag create kay wa pay problema.

    mao ng kining concept sa ginoo sa christianity inferior ni nga concept. you need to look for something nga dili masolod sa definition sa fatalism.

    This Off topic, ends right now. Lisod nag entertain sa mga pareha ug utok nmo.

    "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

  5. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    I still dont see any good reason nganong tanan ang pamatyon, instead of maybe creating a scheme to change them...
    but with gods omnipotency i wonder how he was not able to prevent that from happening to begin with, or likely he was just trolling around, because he himself commanded child sacrifice in Exodus 22:29, and he was also guilty of killing children in egypt, double standard if you ask me...

    and marrying fallen angels? half-breed demons? wtf? that sounds like a cheap movie plot, lol...
    and you believe something like that really happened? lol..
    i always say this and i say it again to you., i can tell that you're intellectually capable, and it's sad that you're wasting it in ancient superstitions.. but whatever..
    i see the reflection of the pope in you jarves. sad to know that!
    you are the kind of people christians must abhor! daghay parehas nimo who are cloaking under the veil of christianity but denying Gods word, the bible....only cherry picking those verses that suits your shifting pagan belief!

    unsaon namo pagtuo nimo kung ikaw mismo doubtful sa bible nya mo pick sad ug verses diha?
    i doubt wa ka kasabot of what biblical christianity is.
    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-18-2015 at 01:31 PM.

  6. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    Memeng, kung makuha nmo gi unsa pag himo sa ginoo ang tao ug unsang mga attributes ang iyang gihatag diha nila. Makuha ra nmo na nga concept.
    Bai yhokzzz, posible kaha nga E.T ang ginoo kai nasayop man cya sa iyang creation?

  7. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    FYI:

    all of these below are weak interpretation sa concept sa Christianity.














    This Off topic, ends right now. Lisod nag entertain sa mga pareha ug utok nmo.

    "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

    naa man na sa bible. naka sala , so gipatay. pero kinsay nagbuhat nila, si creator ninyo. again ngano gipatay? kay nahimong kontra sa creator ninyo pero lagi kinsay nagbuhat si creator ninyo.

    so maayo pa unta diay wa na lang nagbuhat para way kontra. but inspite nga kabalo na siya daan nga makontra jud niya ang iyang creation gi pa dayun gihapod og create so ....

    nagbuhat buhat inyong creator og iyang kontra. its all in the bible, pero kini ako blunt lang pagka istorya para masabtan jud ninyo.

    i can really sense sa kadugay na nako sa mga ingon ani nga discussion outside this forum kabalo nako nga ligon ni akong observatio n mao ng gusto na nimo undangon og naninguha jud ka nga e discredit ko haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    I still dont see any good reason nganong tanan ang pamatyon, instead of maybe creating a scheme to change them...
    but with gods omnipotency i wonder how he was not able to prevent that from happening to begin with, or likely he was just trolling around, because he himself commanded child sacrifice in Exodus 22:29, and he was also guilty of killing children in egypt, double standard if you ask me...

    and marrying fallen angels? half-breed demons? wtf? that sounds like a cheap movie plot, lol...
    and you believe something like that really happened? lol..
    i always say this and i say it again to you., i can tell that you're intellectually capable, and it's sad that you're wasting it in ancient superstitions, lol, wala paka nakasabot?,
    but i understand 'coz ive been there, done that..
    but whatever man that's your life not mine..
    hahahaha,

    mao na diha. sobraan sa pagtoo.

  8. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by porbidaman View Post
    Bai yhokzzz, posible kaha nga E.T ang ginoo kai nasayop man cya sa iyang creation?
    mao nay gipalusot ron sa pope brod, we should be watchful of this new deception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrad View Post
    i see the reflection of the pope in you jarves. sad to know that!
    you are the kind of people christians ought to abhor! daghay parehas nimo who are cloaking under the veil of christianity but denying Gods word, the bible....only cherry picking those verses that suits your shifting pagan belief!

    unsaon namo pagtuo nimo kung ikaw mismo doubtful sa bible nya mo pick sad ug verses diha?
    i doubt wa ka kasabot of what biblical christianity is.
    pasayloa siya ginoo kay wala siya masayod sa iyang gipanulti..
    haha.. you naive little fellow, padayon lang sa imong mga conspiracy diha, dont be so butthurt about the things i/we say, dont expect that you come here with your propaganda without someone giving you a middle finger, because there are always people that likes to toy with your childish beliefs, to see if you measure up to the challenge, but you, wala pa gani ta nagsugod ug storya2 nag yaw2 naka diha, lol.. just shows what kind of person you are..

    wala ka kabantay nga ikaw ang gi abhor sa mga taw diri christian or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    pasayloa siya ginoo kay wala siya masayod sa iyang gipanulti..
    haha.. you naive little fellow, padayon lang sa imong mga conspiracy diha, dont be so butthurt about the things i/we say, dont expect that you come here with your propaganda without someone giving you a middle finger, because there are always people that likes to toy with your childish beliefs, to see if you measure up to the challenge, but you, wala pa gani ta nagsugod ug storya2 nag yaw2 naka diha, lol.. just shows what kind of person you are..

    wala ka kabantay nga ikaw ang gi abhor sa mga taw diri christian or not?
    uie you violated your tradition, wa ka moagi sa holy pope ni dretso ka sa ginoo!
    btaw bro, understand what biblical christianity is kay lagpas kayo imong mga claims, its more on paganism!

    do you know the coming great deception sa vatican nasd bro?
    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-18-2015 at 09:50 AM.

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