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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Lisud na kaau bro. maglisud kog pasabot nimo daghan nag nahitabo nako without any of you guys presence I have valid reason why but if I state it here dili mo maksabot, Awakening is a thing which those who still Asleep can't figure out....

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    Nakaila kas imong gisangpit bro. or gipasabot? Taga asa na nag puyo imong christ bro? kinsay personal nga Name ana?
    suma bro, may buot kaman kaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    you missed what I said something like this: "Assuredly, the evil man will not go unpunished, But the descendants of the righteous will be delivered"

    God is the same from the beginning up to now, it is only by your twisted mind and understanding that you want to portray He had a change in mind. God is just and fair, but due sa ka stubborn and hard headed sa tao, nga mo sway sa iyang teaching, then he is also severe and punishes the wicked.

    Where you said God kills people, like what you always portrays. He punishes and purge people from it's wickedness.

    Naay gi hatag maayung pasumbingay si Slabdan, kung nakuha man pod gani nimo to.

    your mindset is different from ours, tungod naka condition na imong pangisip na mao ni ug ana na. In short, closed minded ka, so whatever pa ang isulti diri, maski valid ang point, at the end imo ghapon na e reject.

    Convenient lang kaau para nmo ani na discussion to somewhat interrogate and pinpoint "gaps", dli man gd ka maka kuha kay in the first place wala kay faith and dili ka mo tuo ug Ginoo.
    Haha whatever you say man,. ako na hinuon ang closed minded? haha,. you should practice euphemism so you wont sound so blunt and pessimistic all the time.. how about reasonable lang jd ko nga taw, suspending judgement on something that is unfounded..

    you know what i think? i think you've been doctrinized probably since you were a child that it's hard to let go of that something that you are so used to believe in, and me opposing it feels revolting and insulting.. but that's ok, i understand.. you're a smart man i can tell, it's sad that you're just wasting it on ancient superstitions,.. i feel sorry for you, but whatever man i don't really care..

    Heaven would always be good no matter what, even if the case is like that. How are we to judge and be selfish to condemn heaven just because people we love go to hell?

    in the first place if you are a believer, you will do everything to keep the word and follow what the Lord teach us. You know the consequence and outcome.. so as a Christian kahibaw naka unsa imo angay buhaton.

    But to address your question personally, as I said I do not know for sure. But one thing for sure, heaven can never be condemn for such case.

    Let me ask you also with this one, and let us keep this in the content of Christianity pls.

    How would you feel if there is really heaven and you yourself don't believe God. Would you regret it if most people you know is in heaven and you are rotting in hell? Will it come to a point in your mind to think, believing in God or a supreme being wont hurt rather than risking not having Him in your life and going to hell?
    haha, goodluck with that thought..

    lol, you're such a pessimist.. that ye olde Pascal's Wager again eh?

    and the reason for your belief is because it is safe? and that disbelief is somewhat risky? is that what you are talking about?

    maypa dili nlang motuo kay aron maluwas rman diay imong giapas.. lol

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    @yhokz101 bro, no point in arguing with an unbeliever

    2 Corinthians 4:4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    in our standards death penalty is meritorious only when crime being committed is that extreme, even still judges are somewhat hesitant to draw a line on what is and what is not punishable by death, that is the reason why others just get life imprisonment even with the severity of their crimes like James Holmes despite killing 12 people, so in a way humans are more capable of preserving life than your god..

    Did all the Canaanites killed people? Did the people and their children that drowned in the flood murdered people as well? i dont think so, none of those was ever mentioned in the bible.. yet why did god exterminated them utterly? was it really the kind of punishment they deserved? was it right not to give them a "kapitua'g-kapito" chance like what the bible teaches?

    You're the one who's presuming that im presuming to know your god, that's your god to know not mine, but you people are too afraid to even try.. tsk tsk..
    Canaanites did not kill people they just burn their infants.
    Secular sources:
    In the Hebrew Bible Tophet or Topheth (Hebrew: תופת ha-tōpheth‎; Greek: Ταφεθ; Latin: Topheth) was a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where worshipers influenced by the Canaanite Pantheon sacrificed children to the gods Moloch and Baal by burning them alive.
    Carthage was notorious to its neighbors for child sacrifice. Plutarch (ca. 46–120 AD) mentions the practice, as do Tertullian, Orosius and Diodorus Siculus. However, Livy and Polybius do not. The Hebrew Bible also mentions what appears to be child sacrifice practiced at a place called the Tophet ("roasting place") by the Canaanites
    The Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for worshipers in Judah to burn their own children alive as sacrifices to the idols Moloch and Baal. One section of the Hinnom Valley was called Topheth (also spelled Tophet or Topeth), where the children were slaughtered (2 Kings 23:10). The name Topheth is derived from either, or both, the Hebrew word toph, meaning a drum, because the cries of children being sacrificed by the priests of Moloch were masked by the sound of the beating on drums or tambourines

    Canaanite God Moloch:
    Moloch worship was practiced by the*Canaanites,Phoenicians, and related cultures in*North Africa*and the*Levant*(see detailed presentation of sources below).
    As a god worshiped by the*Phoenicians*andCanaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of*propitiatory*child sacrificeby parents. Many ancient sources, presented throughout the article, attest to this (the following citation of Leviticus, and that of Diodorus Siculus, below, are two examples). Moloch figures in the*Book of Deuteronomyand in the*Book of Leviticus*as a form ofidolatry*(Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch"). In the Old Testament,*Gehenna*was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various*Baalim*and Canaanite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6;Jer. 7:31, 19:2–6).

    Biblical sources:
    “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I didn't command, nor did it come into my mind. Therefore, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of Slaughter: for they shall bury in Topheth, until there be no place [to bury]. The dead bodies of this people shall be food for the birds of the sky, and for the animals of the earth; and none shall frighten them away. Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride; for the land shall become a waste.” Jeremiah 7:31-34

    The canaanite religion begin to influence the Israelites
    "Cut off thy hair, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the high hills; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath.
    For the children of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight, saith the LORD; they have set their detestable things in the house whereon My name is called, to defile it.
    And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into My mind.
    Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter; for they shall bury in Topheth, for lack of room.

    Canaanite Opress the Israelite
    “And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles. 3And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel”

    The Flood:
    Man was corrupted and intermarried with Fallen Angels, produced half breeds.

    That the sons of God(fallen angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
    3*And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    4*There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    I have a theory that Since fallen angels intermarried with man kind and bore children. This is to save the purity of humanity and degredation of the Human creation. How abominable it could have been intermingling with demons and fallen angels and even having children with them.
    "And God saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

    How much more evil humanity is capable of if they are half breed demons.

    And who is your God then? When you say"that's your god to know not mine".
    We have explained our side how about about your god?
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 09-18-2015 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labtingaw View Post
    @yhokz101 bro, no point in arguing with an unbeliever

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    mao gyud nay sakto unta bro but para makasabot sad ni sila sa tinuod kaysa mo back off nalang ang christians\
    bitaw bro, pang palipas oras lang kay makalingaw mansad ang discussion usahay.
    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-18-2015 at 08:15 AM.

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    kenshiro

    bro by comparing the evidence, we can see that their god i guess is no different than the hindu gods/. Its the same paganism!

    ang difference kay wa lang ni sila nagbahag



    Last edited by Tetrad; 09-18-2015 at 08:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrad View Post
    mao gyud nay sakto unta bro but para makasabot sad ni sila sa tinuod kaysa mo back off nalang ang christians\
    bitaw bro, pang palipas oras lang usahay gud kay makalingaw mansad ang discussion usahay.
    bisag di pa mo mo back off, pildi lang gihapon mo kay you cant prove your truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    bisag di pa mo mo back off, pildi lang gihapon mo kay you cant prove your truth.
    hgeheh. tawn pud. malipay man kaha ka, okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Canaanites did not kill people they just burn their infants.
    Secular sources:
    In the Hebrew Bible Tophet or Topheth (Hebrew: תופת ha-tōpheth‎; Greek: Ταφεθ; Latin: Topheth) was a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where worshipers influenced by the Canaanite Pantheon sacrificed children to the gods Moloch and Baal by burning them alive.
    Carthage was notorious to its neighbors for child sacrifice. Plutarch (ca. 46–120 AD) mentions the practice, as do Tertullian, Orosius and Diodorus Siculus. However, Livy and Polybius do not. The Hebrew Bible also mentions what appears to be child sacrifice practiced at a place called the Tophet ("roasting place") by the Canaanites
    The Valley of Hinnom was used as a place for worshipers in Judah to burn their own children alive as sacrifices to the idols Moloch and Baal. One section of the Hinnom Valley was called Topheth (also spelled Tophet or Topeth), where the children were slaughtered (2 Kings 23:10). The name Topheth is derived from either, or both, the Hebrew word toph, meaning a drum, because the cries of children being sacrificed by the priests of Moloch were masked by the sound of the beating on drums or tambourines

    Canaanite God Moloch:
    Moloch worship was practiced by the*Canaanites,Phoenicians, and related cultures in*North Africa*and the*Levant*(see detailed presentation of sources below).
    As a god worshiped by the*Phoenicians*andCanaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of*propitiatory*child sacrificeby parents. Many ancient sources, presented throughout the article, attest to this (the following citation of Leviticus, and that of Diodorus Siculus, below, are two examples). Moloch figures in the*Book of Deuteronomyand in the*Book of Leviticus*as a form ofidolatry*(Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch"). In the Old Testament,*Gehenna*was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various*Baalim*and Canaanite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6;Jer. 7:31, 19:2–6).

    Biblical sources:
    “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I didn't command, nor did it come into my mind. Therefore, behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of Slaughter: for they shall bury in Topheth, until there be no place [to bury]. The dead bodies of this people shall be food for the birds of the sky, and for the animals of the earth; and none shall frighten them away. Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride; for the land shall become a waste.” Jeremiah 7:31-34

    The canaanite religion begin to influence the Israelites
    "Cut off thy hair, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the high hills; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath.
    For the children of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight, saith the LORD; they have set their detestable things in the house whereon My name is called, to defile it.
    And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into My mind.
    Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Topheth, nor the valley of the son of Hinnom, but the valley of slaughter; for they shall bury in Topheth, for lack of room.

    Canaanite Opress the Israelite
    “And the LORD sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, that reigned in Hazor; the captain of whose host was Sisera, which dwelt in Harosheth of the Gentiles. 3And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD: for he had nine hundred chariots of iron; and twenty years he mightily oppressed the children of Israel”

    The Flood:
    Man was corrupted and intermarried with Fallen Angels, produced half breeds.

    That the sons of God(fallen angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
    3*And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
    4*There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    I have a theory that Since fallen angels intermarried with man kind and bore children. This is to save the purity of humanity and degredation of the Human creation. How abominable it could have been intermingling with demons and fallen angels and even having children with them.
    "And God saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

    How much more evil humanity is capable of if they are half breed demons.

    And who is your God then? When you say"that's your god to know not mine".
    We have explained our side how about about your god?

    wa pa gihapon mo kasabot ...

    God created all of them nya iya lang gi pang patay. ngano gi patay kay kontra? so sa ato pa gahimo og creatures inyong creator para lang duna syay kontra na patyon?

    di na ninyo makita? grabeha gud ninyo ka brainwash hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrad View Post
    hgeheh. tawn pud. malipay man kaha ka, okay
    lipay sa unsa?

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