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    Quote Originally Posted by firehawk View Post
    @bizz_dakk new member here with no other existing account. Usually magbasa basa lang ko diri specially sa buy and sell section. But this time na encourage ko to register kay gusto nako mahibaw-an unsa jud ang point ni TS by asking questions na dili niya tubagon o wa pa may nangutana niya. Aron lang ba maklaro ang tanan sa point ni TS na according to him wala pay nakatubag ug sakto. Maybe by asking him makakuha tag info on how to address his question. Anyway free man lang magregister so might as well join aron makapangutana sad ta. If di man ko makaprovide ug sakto na answer kang TS pero by asking probing questions makatabang sad ta sa uban makahatag ug sakto na tubag na gipangita ni TS.
    Well Go ahead then,, and welcome to istorya.net,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    it's more of defining the gap rather than the intelligence, you just don't get it..



    good copy pasting skills... i almost believed it's yours
    and by the way, killing and murder may not have the same requisites but it's essentially the same, people died, and if you think killing in a war is ok but murder isnt then something is seriously wrong with you, it's time to throw your bible away, stop worrying and live your life..




    and for the things you cannot find in google you simply do not answer.. lol.. you're a funny man..

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    AMEN! ALLELLUIA!

    and what if im wrong, and i die? then im wrong, and i die..

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    as if you can prove that there is..
    If your wrong, and you die, You go to hell for eternity. Plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    If your wrong, and you die, You go to hell for eternity. Plain and simple.
    hahaha, and you're passing judgement on me in behalf of your god? and you claim to know all of this things because?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    you are obviously narrating from old testament, and as what I've told you, you cannot just quote from the old testament and then disregards the new. God is both a loving and at the same time He is Severe. God is the creator, a loving and forgiving one and that is only part of the big picture. He also acks judgement to those who oppose him and to those who are wicked. You also need to consider that God prefer repentance rather than judgement, that's why i always emphasize to you about him being forgiving and merciful. Take a new testament, it clearly states on prohibition on killing. It emphasizes on turning your other cheek if one hits you with the other or love your enemies. you see, when you consider God's nature then you will understand.
    Old or new, it's the same god or maybe your god experienced some kind of epiphany and realized the error of his ways... lol that would be funny..

    to answer your question on loved ones going to hell and me on heaven. I or we just don't know for sure... i dont pretend or assume to know all. Interpretation to this is subjective to one's belief.

    anyway Off topic naman ni..
    himo lang laing thread bro
    it's subjective exactly, that is why i am asking you personally, would heaven be any good for you if that's the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhared View Post
    Old or new, it's the same god or maybe your god experienced some kind of epiphany and realized the error of his ways... lol that would be funny..
    you missed what I said something like this: "Assuredly, the evil man will not go unpunished, But the descendants of the righteous will be delivered"

    God is the same from the beginning up to now, it is only by your twisted mind and understanding that you want to portray He had a change in mind. God is just and fair, but due sa ka stubborn and hard headed sa tao, nga mo sway sa iyang teaching, then he is also severe and punishes the wicked.

    Where you said God kills people, like what you always portrays. He punishes and purge people from it's wickedness.

    Naay gi hatag maayung pasumbingay si Slabdan, kung nakuha man pod gani nimo to.

    your mindset is different from ours, tungod naka condition na imong pangisip na mao ni ug ana na. In short, closed minded ka, so whatever pa ang isulti diri, maski valid ang point, at the end imo ghapon na e reject.

    Convenient lang kaau para nmo ani na discussion to somewhat interrogate and pinpoint "gaps", dli man gd ka maka kuha kay in the first place wala kay faith and dili ka mo tuo ug Ginoo.


    it's subjective exactly, that is why i am asking you personally, would heaven be any good for you if that's the case?
    Heaven would always be good no matter what, even if the case is like that. How are we to judge and be selfish to condemn heaven just because people we love go to hell?

    in the first place if you are a believer, you will do everything to keep the word and follow what the Lord teach us. You know the consequence and outcome.. so as a Christian kahibaw naka unsa imo angay buhaton.

    But to address your question personally, as I said I do not know for sure. But one thing for sure, heaven can never be condemn for such case.

    Let me ask you also with this one, and let us keep this in the content of Christianity pls.

    How would you feel if there is really heaven and you yourself don't believe God. Would you regret it if most people you know is in heaven and you are rotting in hell? Will it come to a point in your mind to think, believing in God or a supreme being wont hurt rather than risking not having Him in your life and going to hell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    indeed.........

    kini lang topic nimo sa incest di pa nila ma reconcile. dawaton na lang gud nila nga gi allowed sa ilang god ang incest saona nya na usab kay tungod kono sa genetics haha.

    pero sa tinood wa gud gasulti ang ginoo ana. ila ra ng gi pugos og fit sa ilang verse, in other words man made answer. dili gikan directly sa ginoo.
    @Brownman_politiks naingon ko aneh bro. sa dili ma explain or lisud ma explain nga reason bro. I Express it in here na dili lang ko mo sulti ug unsa nga Thread but makita nato nga ni duyog ang higayon but bisan unasaon pa if ang Tawo nga Dili Open ang Mind bisan unsaon pag pasabot dili jud maka kuha kung unsay akong buot ipasabot. Open baya unta ko mo share bro. pero ang nakaapan kay personalan kaau ang dating aneh diri , Kusog kaau ma mersonal ug bato if mo comment or mo question ta. So makita jud nato nga Personalan ang ilang style sa pagtubag kay laliman ka bro. atong gi kwestion ilang Creator pero silay graveh naningkamot mo tubag mangugat ug maau ang pangutana "Do Their Creator Needs to be defended"? Do the Creator Needs Symphaty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinkazama92 View Post
    If your wrong, and you die, You go to hell for eternity. Plain and simple.
    Kinsay nag sulti aneh ang Creator Mismo or ang Nag sulat sa Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    @Brownman_politiks naingon ko aneh bro. sa dili ma explain or lisud ma explain nga reason bro. I Express it in here na dili lang ko mo sulti ug unsa nga Thread but makita nato nga ni duyog ang higayon but bisan unasaon pa if ang Tawo nga Dili Open ang Mind bisan unsaon pag pasabot dili jud maka kuha kung unsay akong buot ipasabot. Open baya unta ko mo share bro. pero ang nakaapan kay personalan kaau ang dating aneh diri , Kusog kaau ma mersonal ug bato if mo comment or mo question ta. So makita jud nato nga Personalan ang ilang style sa pagtubag kay laliman ka bro. atong gi kwestion ilang Creator pero silay graveh naningkamot mo tubag mangugat ug maau ang pangutana "Do Their Creator Needs to be defended"? Do the Creator Needs Symphaty?

    ana sigoro jud na, to please their creator, nya to boost their confidence pod nga sila ra ang sakto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownman_politiks View Post
    ana sigoro jud na, to please their creator, nya to boost their confidence pod nga sila ra ang sakto.
    malisud jud ta bro mo ask ug valid nga question kay tawgon dayon tag nasuldlan ug Demons or Satan, wala sila makasabot nga ang pagpanutana wala nagpasabot nga MO influence ka, Usa pud ni Ask ko nila aneh kay akong sutaon unsa sila ka Slave sa ilahang Pagtuo sa usa ka butang nga Tawo ang nagsulat pero ni claim sila nga Ginoo ang nag Sugo, in the First Place if God Can Create the Entire UNiverse without Human Help , How come nga in turns to the Bible ang mga TAwo man iyang gisaligan ug Buhat nga Nag buhat na siya ug Ngilngig nga mga kabuhatan pero when it comes to his Law Tawo pajud ang gisugo or gipasulat? Di tanawa na question hinoon nako?

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    Nag tuo tingali ni Sila bro ug Nahangol ta sa ilang Langit? Or impyerno man lang , Mao ganeh ni Question aron sukdon ang ilang Moral sa ilang gituhoan nga Faith ug gikuptan , Graveh kaaug reaction kung maka react murag silay Creator giisip nila nga sila ang Atong Gipasabot nga ato man untang gi kwestion ang Creation sa ilang Creator , KUng makatubag feel kaau nga sila jud ang sweto. Mas maau pa ang nakwestion kay gusto pa mahibalo sa truth pero kaning tumutuo approve without thingking ilang gigamit..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    malisud jud ta bro mo ask ug valid nga question kay tawgon dayon tag nasuldlan ug Demons or Satan, wala sila makasabot nga ang pagpanutana wala nagpasabot nga MO influence ka, Usa pud ni Ask ko nila aneh kay akong sutaon unsa sila ka Slave sa ilahang Pagtuo sa usa ka butang nga Tawo ang nagsulat pero ni claim sila nga Ginoo ang nag Sugo, in the First Place if God Can Create the Entire UNiverse without Human Help , How come nga in turns to the Bible ang mga TAwo man iyang gisaligan ug Buhat nga Nag buhat na siya ug Ngilngig nga mga kabuhatan pero when it comes to his Law Tawo pajud ang gisugo or gipasulat? Di tanawa na question hinoon nako?

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    Nag tuo tingali ni Sila bro ug Nahangol ta sa ilang Langit? Or impyerno man lang , Mao ganeh ni Question aron sukdon ang ilang Moral sa ilang gituhoan nga Faith ug gikuptan , Graveh kaaug reaction kung maka react murag silay Creator giisip nila nga sila ang Atong Gipasabot nga ato man untang gi kwestion ang Creation sa ilang Creator , KUng makatubag feel kaau nga sila jud ang sweto. Mas maau pa ang nakwestion kay gusto pa mahibalo sa truth pero kaning tumutuo approve without thingking ilang gigamit..

    ila lang pod sigoro gisunod ang mga character sa ilang libro.

    batoon ka og patay man to ila saona, bisag duna silay baload nga thou shall not kill pero ok ra kono mupatay basta di musunod sa ilang balaod.

    pero karun di naman sila puede anang patay kay dakpon unya sila, so e agi na lang nila og inisog sigoro, o kaha insolto, nya manghadlok... mao na lang na ilang weapon karun kay di naman sila kapatay.

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