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    may be because dili maka ato og bantay ang goberno sa mga badlongon,
    if you ask me why?? i dont know..

  2. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    so it is a legitimate reason to prohibit it because of possibility for abuse? everything can be abused. why not prohibit everything?
    Sige lagi sugot ko pero himoon sad nato legal tanan krimin. Kay kung sumahon imo naa kay rason nga para nimo sakto pero dili madawat sa kadaghanan. So kung himoon nanimo tanan legal aw naa sad koy akong rason na para nako sakto

  3. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by slabs17 View Post
    Sige lagi sugot ko pero himoon sad nato legal tanan krimin. Kay kung sumahon imo naa kay rason nga para nimo sakto pero dili madawat sa kadaghanan. So kung himoon nanimo tanan legal aw naa sad koy akong rason na para nako sakto
    taympa, ang mj maka cause ug crime? tinoud naay mga criminal mugamit ug mj. pero mj is not the cause. was muder and theft legalized during the time when pot was untouched by legalities in usa? read that history and not what im saying. this is not a matter of personal opinion but a historical vindication of pot. if indeed pot invited all evil in society, then it should have destroyed the usa in its infancy.

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    decreases pain more effective than morphine, relaxed sleep, decreases anxiety, increases appetite, helps regulate brain activity, destroys mutated cells, regulate hormones, eliminates nausea and vomiting. uses of cannabis have include MS, epilepsy, intractable seizures, chronic pain, hiv/aids, cancer (leukemia, breast, cervical, lung, liver, etc..) severe acne, bipolar and others. there are studies published in journal of american medicine that back up the use of mj in these diseases.

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    THC is the psychoactive substamce in mj. look what legalization has done to colorado, there are now species of cannabis that has negligible amounts of thc and high amounts of cbd, cannabidiol, which is the magical substance that gives all the benfits of pot.
    Okay then, they can take MJ under a doctors supervision and of course if the actual medical requirement arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingboi View Post
    I drilled down with medical subjects and pharmaceuticals for years, and I highly dispute this article. I never rely too much on articles written by bloggers. If you need more details about THC and how it is being "scaremongered" to heart attack cases, then read this medical book:

    "Marijuana use and long-term mortality among survivors of acute myocardial infarction". American heart journal 165 (2)
    by Frost, L; Mostofsky, E; Rosenbloom, JI; Mukamal, KJ; Mittleman, MA (2013).
    Sige uy aron madali dili na lang ko mutuo nila nga mga nag-research ana nga field ug naay saktong expertise, nimo na lang.

  5. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by chocofudge View Post
    may be because dili maka ato og bantay ang goberno sa mga badlongon,
    if you ask me why?? i dont know..
    its a matter of personal choice, and if subayon nato ang foundation sa law enforcement ni sir robert peel, its not a function of law enforcement to protect a person from himself. john locke would also say that it is not a legitimate function of government to protect a person from himself. thats why many judges and retired police officers are coming out to end pot prohibition

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    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    Okay then, they can take MJ under a doctors supervision and of course if the actual medical requirement arise.

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    Sige uy aron madali dili na lang ko mutuo nila nga mga nag-research ana nga field ug naay saktong expertise, nimo na lang.

    its crazy how much scrutiny pot has to go through... it is one of the least addictive, sugar and caffeine are more addictive, and one would think its numerous benefits could outweigh its negative.. is there anything in the world that cannot cause harm?

  6. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    its a matter of personal choice, and if subayon nato ang foundation sa law enforcement ni sir robert peel, its not a function of law enforcement to protect a person from himself. john locke would also say that it is not a legitimate function of government to protect a person from himself. thats why many judges and retired police officers are coming out to end pot prohibition
    well atleast if not part of their job may nlang concern sila sa mga tao. kay mkadaot man pud,
    Ts. are you marijuana user?? wala lng just wondering..

  7. #507
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    its a matter of personal choice, and if subayon nato ang foundation sa law enforcement ni sir robert peel, its not a function of law enforcement to protect a person from himself. john locke would also say that it is not a legitimate function of government to protect a person from himself. thats why many judges and retired police officers are coming out to end pot prohibition

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    its crazy how much scrutiny pot has to go through... it is one of the least addictive, sugar and caffeine are more addictive, and one would think its numerous benefits could outweigh its negative.. is there anything in the world that cannot cause harm?
    So what's the problem if the use undergoes medical supervision, if that is the real intention.

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by slabs17 View Post
    Ahh ka klaro anah link diha na maka cancer na dili lang kay kana ra makabuang pajud mura sad nag cancer ang adiction. Cancer sa katilingban nga angay puohon
    its a pitiful attempt to derive an analogy... there are no medical records of such occurence. in 1950s, there was a study about pots effects on monkeys, and the conclusion was pot can kill. and this was the basis for the prohibition in 1970s. but many objected to the methodology of the study, because shoving a telephone pole's worth of cannabis, or any material for that matterr like cotton, to the monkey every 3 hours for three days would kill solely due to burning of the lungs leading to respiratory collapse and not because of substances in cannabis. yes, there were studies saying it might predispose to cancer, but immunologists in harvard medicine concluded on the contrary (kasabot ra ka ininglis?). it may not be a cure to all diseases , but so are most pharmaceutical products.. what kind of criteria should we assess pot before legalizing it? if the absence of psychoactive substance would be the determinant, then there are existing species of cannabis that do not have the ability to produce the high, like cannabis ruderalis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofudge View Post
    well atleast if not part of their job may nlang concern sila sa mga tao. kay mkadaot man pud,
    Ts. are you marijuana user?? wala lng just wondering..
    off topic: no. but my mom has cancer. chemo and radiation is not an option for people who are already emaciated. it would be better if we have a cannabis option.

    ontopic; let me spell it out what john locke and sir robert peel meant, to force or protect a person from himself is to commit crime of violence, and goes counter to the legitimate function of law and its enforcement.

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by <SMILE> View Post
    So what's the problem if the use undergoes medical supervision, if that is the real intention.
    theres no problem, isnt it apparent in my response? its a good step forward, it will unveil the potential of pot for most people.

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    its a pitiful attempt to derive an analogy... there are no medical records of such occurence. in 1950s, there was a study about pots effects on monkeys, and the conclusion was pot can kill. and this was the basis for the prohibition in 1970s. but many objected to the methodology of the study, because shoving a telephone pole's worth of cannabis, or any material for that matterr like cotton, to the monkey every 3 hours for three days would kill solely due to burning of the lungs leading to respiratory collapse and not because of substances in cannabis. yes, there were studies saying it might predispose to cancer, but immunologists in harvard medicine concluded on the contrary (kasabot ra ka ininglis?). it may not be a cure to all diseases , but so are most pharmaceutical products.. what kind of criteria should we assess pot before legalizing it? if the absence of psychoactive substance would be the determinant, then there are existing species of cannabis that do not have the ability to produce the high, like cannabis ruderalis.

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    off topic: no. but my mom has cancer. chemo and radiation is not an option for people who are already emaciated. it would be better if we have a cannabis option.

    ontopic; let me spell it out what john locke and sir robert peel meant, to force or protect a person from himself is to commit crime of violence, and goes counter to the legitimate function of law and its enforcement.
    Cge daw tambal man kaha ng marijuana. Pasuyopa imong mama kung maayo bas cancer

    Bisan unsa pay imong nindot nga isulti ana basta usa ray resulta. Maka uga nas utok. In short makabuang...e grant nato makkayo sa uban sakit pero mag unsa man na kung buang ang tawo? Aw sabagay wala ma n sad ko kabantay ug buang na niadto ug ospital kay magpa check up sa iyang sakit.

    Bob marley namatay tubgod man guro tos infection sa iyang samad. Wala magpa tambal kay lagi tambal ang marijuana aw tigok noon tan-awa unsa na ka liki ang pang huna2x ana
    Last edited by slabs17; 06-01-2015 at 04:59 PM.

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