Strong faith in God BUT Losing hope to Religions

[rafee]

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mao gyud pud ako gihuna2 @gazmembrane bisan pa sa mga clarifications sa uban...naa pud nuon ko nhuha but still can't see why it happened.

[gazmembrane]

mao gyud pud ako gihuna2 @gazmembrane bisan pa sa mga clarifications sa uban...naa pud nuon ko nhuha but still can't see why it happened.

As much as I can, I try my best to live by with the golden rule na lang kato do not do unto others...
Mao rana ako gipractice kay di manko heavily into fanaticism i.e. kana sigeg preach2 sa faith then ig talikod lain diay binuhatan hahaha

I also don't like the idea of confessing your supposed sins to a priest who is just as equally or more sinful than you. Why not tell it directly to your God or whomever you believe in.

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Thnx @noy ... nice thoughts and it really answers most of my confusions honestly...

Sorry if I miss the specifics but that is out my mind to tell who are these leaders, priests etc.. and what are their so called "failures".
I believe in God so Ginoo nlng ang nkahibaw and bahala ana...

Sorry if general na kaau ako post ky mostly mn gud sa ako nahibaw-an (Dghan ko group so we share everything..more on good things but sad to say few bad things are what we see in common)... so meaning dili lang 1 ka church ako nahibal-an.

I agree, naa mn gyud tinudanay nga mohatag but this is not my point. Whether heartfelt donations or pasikat lng.... what I'm pointing out are the EFFECTs.. 1 of the effect? "Unfair treatment and injustice..." ... This is human in nature but again they are church leaders... NOT a barangay captain, NOT a company CEO, NOT a president of the country etc... nga kinahanglan mo hatag ug sympathy or return in general...

They are humans and like what you said, unfair treatment and injustice are part of our nature, so di jud na malikayan naa jud uban ana mogimaw nang abilidara.. mao na sila mga latang kamatis. That doesn't mean you'll throw all the other tomatoes because of some rotten ones..

The(leaders) are now the once acting on it after big donations comes in. Wala lang gani pakilam ang ng donate ky kinasingkasing but sila ang nagpakita ug sobra "kaau" compare sa mga regular/ordinary members lng...
I say "regular/ordinary" because they are categorized at the back of the mind of those type of leaders and you can really see and felt it.

Kinahanglan d.i pangutan-on ang nihatag kon diin gikan ang ilang gidonate?

Now, for the first time in general:
How is selling religious items with price? Do you think this is good? So for simplicity sake, you are buying your faith.
You might say they spend money to build or make those religious items BUT how could you reconcile with people who can't afford?

This is in aid for our stronger faith in God right? In my own thought, why would just ask donations to build/make religious items and share it the people for FREE.
I can say mahal rba gyud... If the purpose is for additional funding for whatever reasons(church expenses, outreach programs etc..) why selling other goods/items?

now you see what Martin Luther saw

[rafee]

Kinahanglan d.i pangutan-on ang nihatag kon diin gikan ang ilang gidonate?

@NapoleonBlownapart ... They(leaders) don't ask asa gikan ang donation. I thought ma klaro ra ako explanation pero heres the explanation:

Unlike sa mga unanimous donors(tighulog sa sibot or tighatag ug envelope nga walay pangalan), big donors(pra mailhan) usually go to the office of the church and moingnon sa en-charge nga "Ako si..<name> donation nako.." pra sa simbahan or sometimes pra gyud sa specific nga leader (not for the church...depende lng if ihatag ba sa leader nga gihatagan)..

Uban pud moduol gyud personally sa leader then mo donate.

Wala ko ng classify nila ha nga pakitang-tao lng or pra mailhan. Ako lng gi describe kung ngano mailhan sa mga leaders ang big donors.

[newbie.86]

vnow you see what Martin Luther saw

Oh well, its quite interesting to know some INCONVENIENT FACTS about this PSYCHOPATHIC CRIMINAL who happen to be the founding father of Protestantism and Born-againism.

Martin Luther is the father of Nazism:
- he urged the Protestants to massacre the Jews. Very "Christian" , isnt it?
According to him:
- "We are at fault for not slaying them." and he enumerated several ways to slay the jews: hang them, stab them, drown them in a river by hanging a stone on their necks. The making of a perfect psychopath that was Martin Luther.

- His dirty little book " On the Jews and their lies" had been the spiritual manual of the Nazis.

- historians normally acknowledge him as Hitler's spiritual ancestor, yet many Prots venerate him.

Martin Luther condoned the murder of 10,000 (TEN THOUSAND) German peasants.

- Here is a chilling command from Luther to the German warlords:
"They (the peasants) should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"
- sounds like a true psychopath that needs to be sent to a mental asylum

He advocated violence against Catholics, by ""washing our hands in their blood", forced conversion to Protestantism or death (like modern day ISIS), looting and burning of churches and destruction of priceless works of art (like the Taliban did in Afghanistan).
This made the early Protestants comparable to the Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS rolled into one in their penchance for violence and destruction.

See here for more info.


IT AMAZES ME THAT DESPITE HIS INVOCATION TO EXTREME VIOLENCE AND MURDEROUS PSYCHOPATHIC TENDENCIES, HE REMAINS A "SAINT" AMONG PROTESTANTS.

[brendomar]

Oh well, its quite interesting to know some INCONVENIENT FACTS about this PSYCHOPATHIC CRIMINAL who happen to be the founding father of Protestantism and Born-againism.

Martin Luther is the father of Nazism:
- he urged the Protestants to massacre the Jews. Very "Christian" , isnt it?
According to him:
- "We are at fault for not slaying them." and he enumerated several ways to slay the jews: hang them, stab them, drown them in a river by hanging a stone on their necks. The making of a perfect psychopath that was Martin Luther.

- His dirty little book " On the Jews and their lies" had been the spiritual manual of the Nazis.

- historians normally acknowledge him as Hitler's spiritual ancestor, yet many Prots venerate him.

Martin Luther condoned the murder of 10,000 (TEN THOUSAND) German peasants.

- Here is a chilling command from Luther to the German warlords:
"They (the peasants) should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"
- sounds like a true psychopath that needs to be sent to a mental asylum

He advocated violence against Catholics, by ""washing our hands in their blood", forced conversion to Protestantism or death (like modern day ISIS), looting and burning of churches and destruction of priceless works of art (like the Taliban did in Afghanistan).
This made the early Protestants comparable to the Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS rolled into one in their penchance for violence and destruction.

See here for more info.
IT AMAZES ME THAT DESPITE HIS INVOCATION TO EXTREME VIOLENCE AND MURDEROUS PSYCHOPATHIC TENDENCIES, HE REMAINS A "SAINT" AMONG PROTESTANTS.

murag layo raman kayo sa tinuod ning imoha migo! pangdaut maning imoha. How could a so called "psychophath" be named and honored such as below>? Lisud gyud ning naa tay agenda migo kay dali kayo ta makareact ug negatives when people posts information about good protestant leaders.

from wiki migo ai:
King was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day was established as a holiday in numerous cities and states beginning in 1971, and as a U.S. federal holiday in 1986. Hundreds of streets in the U.S. have been renamed in his honor. In addition, a county was rededicated in his honor. A memorial statue on the National Mall was opened to the public in 2011.

Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[brendomar]

mao ra jud akong nahibudngan naay uban diri dali kayo makareact against topics like this nya ila gyud i oppose nga conspiracy daw. How sad these people are pretending to be "Christian" Catholics yet suppresing the truth of Jesus Christ and the bible.

John 8:32King James Version (KJV)
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

Acts 16:31King James Version (KJV)
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

NWO: the Vatican, martial law, the mark of the beast, the Antichrist and the false messiah - YouTube

[porbidaman]

murag layo raman kayo sa tinuod ning imoha migo! pangdaut maning imoha. How could a so called "psychophath" be named and honored such as below>? Lisud gyud ning naa tay agenda migo kay dali kayo ta makareact ug negatives when people posts information about good protestant leaders.

from wiki migo ai:
King was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day was established as a holiday in numerous cities and states beginning in 1971, and as a U.S. federal holiday in 1986. Hundreds of streets in the U.S. have been renamed in his honor. In addition, a county was rededicated in his honor. A memorial statue on the National Mall was opened to the public in 2011.

Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Murag lahi na silang 2 migo si Martin Luther ug Martin Luther King Jr.
Martin Luther - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[Vedder]

murag layo raman kayo sa tinuod ning imoha migo! pangdaut maning imoha. How could a so called "psychophath" be named and honored such as below>? Lisud gyud ning naa tay agenda migo kay dali kayo ta makareact ug negatives when people posts information about good protestant leaders.

from wiki migo ai:
King was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day was established as a holiday in numerous cities and states beginning in 1971, and as a U.S. federal holiday in 1986. Hundreds of streets in the U.S. have been renamed in his honor. In addition, a county was rededicated in his honor. A memorial statue on the National Mall was opened to the public in 2011.

Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Lahi ang Martin Luther ug Martin Luther King Jr.

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Way pulos imung kabugo

[rafee]

guys.. I know naa gyud masayop... usahay ma corrected usahay pud dili,. pero usahay if sensitive na kaau nga issue (specially peoples name and religion ...) hopefully mg conduct una ug reasearch ky my post is purely based on facts..

Usahay ma brainwash mn gud ang uban nga medyo nibasa lng den wla na tym to research nya obviously motuo daun...

thnx