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  1. #151

    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    Di dyod ko kapasa ug bar kay it is not for me, I have no passion for it, and makes me sick hearing them. Many modern day lawyers are similar/comparable to Scribes and Pharisees. Most of them exploit loopholes of the law and make lies to cover up for it or get what they want - makes me sick, such hypocrisy.
    murag ikaw man na tan-awa na imong gipang bold naglalis ra pud sa imong post..ikaw rapud nilubong sa imong kaugalingon...pang ilisan pa kung unsay nasuwat.

    aw kung dili humasa ug biblia mailad gyud nimo oi...murag tinuod gud tsk tsk tsk kuyaw
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-23-2014 at 12:56 AM.

  2. #152
    protestante ni klaro kaau....

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by centerpiece View Post
    protestante ni klaro kaau....
    I beg to disagree. Protestante man ko pero motoo man ming Paul. Basin Paultestante nga siya, bro.

  4. #154
    sure dating doon ts ila brad pete

  5. #155
    bro @Aittv kung demonyo tong nagpakita kang pablo... unsa diay iyang giwali nga makapa impyerno sa mutoo ug naminaw sa iyang giwali?

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    1. asa nga verse mabasa nga si Paul nag perform ug miracles? (interesting ni dah) read his past? mao man gani iyang gi testify (ngano dili man ka kasabot ani) kung unsa siya kadautan kaniadto, ug unsa na siya sa dihang gipakita na siya katarong sa Dios

    kani imong mga verse pwerte gyud pagka layoa..wala gyud makita nga nag pointed out nga si Paul ang gipasabot diha..kibaw kag unsay mga buhat sa Pareseo? sila tong mga tigpa karon ingnon.

    2. 2 peter 3:15-16

    15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.

    16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

    mao ka diha pataka lang kag yawit unya kana imong gipang bold tan-awa daw ang verse 15 ug wla ba mag supamki? kompletoha na imong bold naa pa tawon ang God give him

    3. cge ka ana imong angel2x gihungit na gani nako ang verse Jesus gibutang diha dili angel, ayaw intawn usba ang nakasuwat sa biblia kay dako kaayo ng sala

    Acts 9:5
    5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?" Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.[a] It is hard for you to kick against the


    matud diri Lord diliangel ang nakasuwat, ug kinsa gani tong Lord nga nagpakita ni Paul ug Anias? I am Jesus puros Jesus ang gipamutang diri...wlay angel

    Acts 9:13-19
    13 “Lord,” Ananias answered, “I have heard many reports about this man and all the harm he has done to your holy people in Jerusalem.

    14
    And he has come here with authority from the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.”

    15
    But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.

    16
    I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.”

    17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”

    18
    Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized,

    -tan-awa oh...gibawtismohan siya unya mo ingon ka nga wala siyay authority?

    19
    and after taking some food, he regained his strength.



    6. Bunos sa mata nimo...sige kag pagarpar diha..sala baya ng pag-usab sa kasulatan sa biblia pagka lagyo naman lang jud sa imong punto...sunod butangi ug verse para dili ko magkabuang ug ukay diri...palipat gyud ng imo dah!

    7. unsa na? gipakita napud ka imong Ginoo? di a koy daghan solvent diri oh..kita gita gyud ka ani Ginoo
    1. Read the definition of miracle in the dictionary.

    2. Love your enemies as Jesus commanded the disciples - Matthew 5: 44-48. Ibutang lang nako tong key verse. The "Our dear brother Paul" does not mean he is legit" - diba love your enemies?

    46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
    47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?


    Ang wisdom from God giexplain na nako.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv
    2. I explain nako - pero lisod ni sabton.

    For a much easier version let's read NIV:
    Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

    Why does Peter need to specify that he writes in the same way in all of his letters and indicate that some things are hard to understand?

    Isaiah 45:7, KJV
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Coin method:
    God created Satan;
    Satan turns Evil;
    Is God responsible for Evil?
    Yes and No at the same time. -the coin

    Yes - because God created Satan therefore he is responsible.
    No - because God gave Satan freewill and it is Satan's responsibility.

    So wisdom from God Peter is saying could be,
    #1 Wisdom from God could be Wisdom from God(good);
    #2 Wisdom from God could be Wisdom from Satan(evil); because he created Satan.

    So wisdom from God Peter is saying here can either come from God or from Satan. -as I stated see the real Wisdom from God(James 3: 15-18 . - it does not cause confusion that results to destruction(way to HELL)

    The Word of God uses a lot of word coining method/hiding the real meaning. This is used for many reasons. (Ex. For sealing prophecies and hiding the meaning to some people).

    James 3: 15-18
    But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
    This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
    But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
    3. Do you understand a lie/deception? -Timani this is only a testimony of Paul to the true disciples, maong nakabutang na sa Acts. Also water baptism does not mean you are already from God for this can be seen by the eyes(ex. tanawa ra nang mga pari na rapist - hypocrites kaau - understand that they went through water baptism) - true baptism is through the Holy Spirit which cannot be seen physically - but can be determined by your fruits/works. Pauls doctrine is half-truth - this is his work(will mislead the many). Naa ra na sa imoha kung mutuo ka sa miracles of Saul/Paul - nakabutang man unta sa bible ang iyang doctrine(works).

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by raissah View Post
    I beg to disagree. Protestante man ko pero motoo man ming Paul. Basin Paultestante nga siya, bro.
    naghimo lagi ni sya og iyang grupo.

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Boyen View Post
    bro @Aittv kung demonyo tong nagpakita kang pablo... unsa diay iyang giwali nga makapa impyerno sa mutoo ug naminaw sa iyang giwali?
    As I said it is okay to listen to Paul - if you know how to reject the lies and retain the truth, as he is using half-truths.

    To simplify(the danger of Pauls doctrine), the big difference of Pauls doctrine vs the true doctrine is this:

    We do not need to do the law(Paul) vs we need to do the law(Jesus and true disciples/apostles)

    Paul:
    Galatians 3:10-13
    For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.
    For no human being will be justified in his sight by works of the law, since through the law comes knowledge of sin (Rom 3:20).

    For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law (Rom 3: 28.)

    Yet we know that a man is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ, and not by works of the law, because by works of the law shall no one be justified
    (Gal 2:16).

    Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? (Gal 3:2)

    Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith? (Gal 3:5)

    The true Word of God:

    And the beloved apostle wrote, "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome" (1 John 5:3).

    James 1: 22
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

    Matthew 19: 17-19
    And He said to him, "Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments." 18 Then he said to Him, "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY; YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS; 19 honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    1. Read the definition of miracle in the dictionary.

    2. Love your enemies as Jesus commanded the disciples - Matthew 5: 44-48. Ibutang lang nako tong key verse. The "Our dear brother Paul" does not mean he is legit" - diba love your enemies?

    46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
    47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?


    Ang wisdom from God giexplain na nako.


    3. Do you understand a lie/deception? -Timani this is only a testimony of Paul to the true disciples, maong nakabutang na sa Acts. Also water baptism does not mean you are already from God for this can be seen by the eyes(ex. tanawa ra nang mga pari na rapist - hypocrites kaau - understand that they went through water baptism) - true baptism is through the Holy Spirit which cannot be seen physically - but can be determined by your fruits/works. Pauls doctrine is half-truth - this is his work(will mislead the many). Naa ra na sa imoha kung mutuo ka sa miracles of Saul/Paul - nakabutang man unta sa bible ang iyang doctrine(works).
    1 tua napud ka sa dectionary? ang bible naa nay kaugalingon basihan sa meaning ang miracles

    2. ang question diri? ngano gibawtismohan man siya? unya unsa gisulti ni Jesus nga "15 But the Lord said to Ananias, “Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel." nagliko2x man ka oy..panubaga kuno na akong points diha usa ka mo liko

    46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
    47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that
    kaila ni Matthew kung unsa siya? basin apilon nasad nimo si Matthew nga mini...ngano naabot man ka diha? si Paul pa atong topic diri pwerte na gyud aning pagka simanga

    3. kahibaw ka unsay meaning sa Baptismo? naabot naman pud kag pari nga rapist...pagkatoytoy nimong ka diskorso...
    hinumdomi baya ang nag bautismo ni PAblo tinun-an ni Jesus..kung e discredit nga parehas silang duha ug Vision si Paul ug Ananias asta sad di ie ani si Ananias false Prophet nasad maoba? pag sure kuno kay mag beko ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aittv View Post
    As I said it is okay to listen to Paul,
    pag sure oi..tan-awa ra gud na imong title unsay imong gisuwat diha..dili nalang nako na daginuton ng imong points sa reply nimo ni boyen kay simang gihapon kaayo sa atong topic
    Last edited by slabdans; 02-23-2014 at 12:57 PM.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by raissah View Post
    I beg to disagree. Protestante man ko pero motoo man ming Paul. Basin Paultestante nga siya, bro.
    ah mao bah,, ok sori boss na offend tika,,, pero naa ko ask nimo,, dili mo motoo ug mama mary boss noh? ako uncle nagpa convert protestante kay dili naman nuon motoo ug mary,,, den naa pa to cya gipang dala nga mga magazines pag uli niya diri pinas nga mga blasphemous kaau sa part ni mama mary ug sa roman catholic church,,

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    kaning problemaha si paul ra jd ang makatobag ane,,, i summon ta kaha ni iyang kalag noh aron matobag inyong mga pangutana,, hehehe,, joke!

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