For Your Information: Ferdinand Marcos's achievements, history etc.

[kit_cebu]

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Unsaun man pud ning uban adto man base sa history..

"History over reality"man ilaha like...False history will kill us all.

apparently, sounds and feels like Martial Law here...

[cmac2]

no offense man, but why would you trust wikileaks ?? why would you intrust your history to such web pages ??

my source of knowledge about the Marcos and the way of life during martial law comes from my parents, uncle and aunts and grand parents. They experienced first hand what's it's like during martial law and all of them are satisfied with their lives back then. to make it short - life was good during martial law, it was peaceful. And all of them said that life after marcos was hard, cory, ramos, erap, arroyo, abnoy .... life became harder by the year, inflation keeps going up.

as you said so yourself,



why blame marcos when you said that it was his cronies that's at fault ??

and yes, we who admires marcos have small brains, our brains are as small as those of a mosquito, but at least we're not blind. and there's no point in labeling us as MINIONS of marcos, we ( marcos admirers ) don't get anything out of this, none of the marcos children is up for election and election time is done, we are just sharing our sentiment and not forcing our thoughts on others, unlike those Aquino-Mongers, who have AbsCbn and other medias to constantly ADVERTISE the aquinos ... guess, you're the one who has a microscopic brain

Have you ever heard of a leader who takes ownership for his subordinates actions and is even more responsible?
As I said, Marcos was good when he was 'sane' but guess it was just a clout to cover his true purpose at what history tells us.

Wikileaks? As far as I've read, no one has disputed them. So please, give reason for doubt.

Can you provide even a single scrap of crime that the Aquino's committed?
Even stealing a candy from a child?
Guess not. Stop living on our dream world and making up stories in your head.
Until you can provide proof, you are only spreading rumors and lies.
But I guess your miniscule brain can't even comprehend that since you've been bashing the Aquino's even without proof nor gossip.

Ayaw pataka ug yaw2 kung wala kay proof coz you would look like a hot air balloon.
More brains and proof compared vs ego and pride. Peace!

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I was surfing through the comments, and this one really hit my head like a jackhammer.

First of all, Cory never did cleaned anything up. She even made things worst. It was like against an army of mice and rats, you killed the cat and replaced by a bunny.

1. The Philippine foreign debt was around $26-$30 billion, during the time Cory took over. That debt, most of which were odious an be repudiated within 3-5 years. But Cory did not.

2. Cory resisted attempts by legislators and economists to put a cap on debt repayments. This ended up in taxpayer money going to interests instead of going to Education, health, miliary, etc...

3. Her agrarian reform program was monumentally a FAILURE. This reform allowed landlords to duck the program. (You know the reason why, Haciendera man sad ning pisti.)

4. The 1987 Constitution was so imperfect. It was passed in extreme haste to meet an artificial deadline imposed by Aquino.

5. And along with hundreds of other failures, I couldn't list it anymore.

What do you expect from a housewife?
Do you think all the issues would be resolved on her 6 year term? How about Ramos? Erap? Gloria (9 years?)?
All the concerns you mentioned are still present today.
Let's not forget that it was MARCOS not CORY who did the crime.

Cory may have been a miracle to the people to end the Martial Law but she is no God.
Give her due credit and respect for what she has done and what she hasn't which she did not abuse her power and got corrupted.

Bali kaayo ang world ninyo kay gibasol ninyo ang tao who tried to solve the wrong that MARCOS did.
Also, the housewife survived 6 coup attempts.

[cmac2]

that's my whole point bossKit, nothing beats real life experience. it's sad that there's this cmac who LECTURE us but his source is from wikileaks and the internet. but i understand, since most people now "pretend" to be smart just becoz they are reading from wikipedia and wikileaks.

i was 8 years old during the PEOPLE POWER. Even if i'm living in cebu, you could feel how united the philippines that time. We were only listening to the radio that time coz there was no live-feed then from tv stations, it's always one-week-delayed and it was during that time that i asked my parents and uncle about what the heck is happening, and with my innocent little head, they explained to me the martial law and everything, but of course i didn't fully comprehended everything since i was just 8, but at least i had an idea of how politics works and when i grew older, i witnessed the Cory admin and so on till Abnoy of today. And every end-of-term of each president, i would always ask my father if it was better than Marcos' time, but my father always say - Marcos was the best president he has ever seen and that Martial Law was NEEDED TO BE DONE during those times.

we should not think about the end-of-days of Marcos', coz we all know that he went nuts and gave all the responsibilities to the people he trusted but they failed him. And if people say that he was the ultimate corrupt politician, well, let me just remind you people to what happened to CJ CORONA. He challenged every one of those Senators and Congressmen to release their SALN, but only a few of them did. Isn't that obvious that those who didn't release their SALN to the public is guilty of corruption, it's the same as the rest of the president, they are ALL corrupt, we just don't know to what extend.

WOW! So guessing by the way how you think, the people GMA trusted failed her and GMA it not to be blamed?
If that's the case I hope ma president ka and usa ko sa imong cabinet officials.

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this is the result of too much wikileaks, you're as paranoid as those people. trying to conjure up some conspiracy theory within istorya.net ?? hahahahahahah, wala man gani sweldo ang mga mods dini, how much more ang mga marcos mag suhol hahahaha, pag sure diha oi, sobrahan ra sad ka

Conspiracy theory? Please do not put your words into my mouth and try to do a little research. You know google right?
Kalayo sa mga mods sa istorya vs marcos. Lagpas naka sa imong pag attacke nako bro. Get some sleep.

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Unsaun man pud ning uban adto man base sa history..

"History over reality"man ilaha like...False history will kill us all.

Could you site an example of the false history with proof/links na dli gossip?
It would be a good topic to discuss.

[Tech Guru]

daghan jud nahimu si marcos kay 20 years gud sya in service

[bleedingboi]

Cory may have been a miracle to the people to end the Martial Law but she is no God.
Give her due credit and respect for what she has done and what she hasn't which she did not abuse her power and got corrupted.

Bali kaayo ang world ninyo kay gibasol ninyo ang tao who tried to solve the wrong that MARCOS did.
Also, the housewife survived 6 coup attempts.

WRONG. The country's nationalist democrats and socialists sided against the Marcoses and promoted Cory,who was weaker and much vulnerable to political maneuvre.

SHE DID NOT SOLVED ANYTHING. SHE WAS USED BY MAGNATES AND WAS A MERE PUPPET BY THESE ANTI-WESTERN PROPAGANDIST.

[<SMILE>]

I do not know at this period
when Marcos did have the absolute power,
did he was able to catapult the country towards progress?


In 1978, the position returned when Ferdinand Marcos became Prime Minister. Based on Article 9 of the 1973 constitution, it had broad executive powers, that would be typical of modern prime ministers in other countries. The position was the official head of government, and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. All of the previous powers of the President from the 1935 Constitution were transferred to the newly restored office of Prime Minister. The Prime Minister also acted as head of the National Economic Development Authority. Upon his reelection to President, Marcos was succeeded as Prime Minister by Cesar Virata in 1981
Ferdinand Marcos: Biography from Answers.com

[cmac2]

WRONG. The country's nationalist democrats and socialists sided against the Marcoses and promoted Cory,who was weaker and much vulnerable to political maneuvre.

SHE DID NOT SOLVED ANYTHING. SHE WAS USED BY MAGNATES AND WAS A MERE PUPPET BY THESE ANTI-WESTERN PROPAGANDIST.

Now that is what you call a conspiracy. But let's entertain your statements for a half a brain.

So Marcos was the good guy and everyone else was bad?
The millions of people who gathered in the streets were democrats and socialists?
Plunder, Martial Law, Extrajudicial Killings, etc. justified?

This is already talking about Cory which I would admit was not the best person for president at that time but can get the votes.
Read the link below for the NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
The President Report Corazon Aquino

Please, justify pud mo sa inyong pang hambog ni Marcos. You paint him as if he is a saint and I can't get why even a fraction of the ill gotten wealth recovered are being awarded to the hundreds/thousands of political victims.

Are they just pretending to be victims? Please give my brain a challenge.

[SioDenz]

Unsaun man pud ning uban adto man base sa history..

"History over reality"man ilaha like...False history will kill us all.

Our Current Messed Up Reality is the Effect of our messed Up History... think about that..

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daghan jud nahimu si marcos kay 20 years gud sya in service

Daghan nahimung Sala

[mang kulas]

ha ?!?!?! of course, i'm not putting words into your mouth. it was you who said it here ::

https://www.istorya.net/forums/politi...l#post15321407



"GUESS SOME ARE EVEN HERE IN ISTORYA." mao lagi nang problem lagi, basta ma pusa na sa lalis, mag likay2x na dayun sa storya, bisan klaro na kau ang ebidinz na ikaw mismo nag storya ana


and let me quote another statement of yours that proves your blindness towards the aquinos::




my answer to that is just two letters:: H.L. or Hacienda Luisita. if you're so good at research and wikileaks, then why haven't who read about H.L. ?? i guess, you are selective with the articles you read or just being biased towards the aquinos that you don't even consider the murders and manipulation they made to keep Hacienda Luisita

having said those, it proves to show that you're the one who's blabbering nonsense in this thread ...

purte jung pusaa ani....

PUSA pas LATA

[æRLO]

Now that is what you call a conspiracy. But let's entertain your statements for a half a brain.

So Marcos was the good guy and everyone else was bad?
The millions of people who gathered in the streets were democrats and socialists?
Plunder, Martial Law, Extrajudicial Killings, etc. justified?

This is already talking about Cory which I would admit was not the best person for president at that time but can get the votes.
Read the link below for the NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
The President Report Corazon Aquino

Please, justify pud mo sa inyong pang hambog ni Marcos. You paint him as if he is a saint and I can't get why even a fraction of the ill gotten wealth recovered are being awarded to the hundreds/thousands of political victims.

Are they just pretending to be victims? Please give my brain a challenge.

You'd have to be pretty naive to believe Cory was her own master. She was missiled into the political scene, without prior ambition OR experience. Out of all the qualified opposition leaders, they pick her--someone who might not even be aligned with them in terms of political ideology. The opposition urged Cory to run because: (1)She is the wife of the slain Ninoy, making her the center of the nation's sentiment and (2)She knows jack-squat about politics--making her more malleable than play-doh in a hot summer day. She is simply a demagogue who is a proxy. A figurehead.

Have you ever heard of a leader who takes ownership for his subordinates actions and is even more responsible?
...
Can you provide even a single scrap of crime that the Aquino's committed?
Even stealing a candy from a child?
Guess not. Stop living on our dream world and making up stories in your head.
Until you can provide proof, you are only spreading rumors and lies.
But I guess your miniscule brain can't even comprehend that since you've been bashing the Aquino's even without proof nor gossip.

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Cory had an abysmal HR track record, which mainstream media fails to remind us.


To me, especially if you put those days into context with what was going on in the world, Marcos was a necessary evil. This world was not made to be black and white. You have to embrace all the world's nastiness sometimes and acknowledge that sometimes bad is good, and good is stupid. LKY, Chiang Kai-shek, and Park Chung-hee all had their opposition, all were strongmen and ruled for long periods of time. Look at their countries.