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  1. #6831

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Base sa imong latest link na gi provide particularly Sunstar News... I put this words into your mouth then usapa sad aron mahilisan ka ............... "In 2010, the $200-billion Philippine economy as measured by the World Bank surged to its highest level in 34 years due to massive election spending and renewed business confidence." (Sunnex)
    basic in economics, dapat ang tanan mogastos para molihok ang market. kung wala kaayo mogastos then the market will not perform well and the economy will be affected. mao nang it was recommended by economists that instead of putting our money in savings, we have to invest it para continues ang pag circulate sa money in the market...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunyanggo1977 View Post
    basic in economics, dapat ang tanan mogastos para molihok ang market. kung wala kaayo mogastos then the market will not perform well and the economy will be affected. mao nang it was recommended by economists that instead of putting our money in savings, we have to invest it para continues ang pag circulate sa money in the market...
    Sakto gyud bro ! 1000% agree.... Sakto gyud si estor-boot, sa iyang Analysis.. 2004, 2007, 2010 kusog ang economy ... Tungod election year .... Massive Vote Buying plus gasto sa candidates prior sa election.... Na inject to na money sa economy... ug nagtuyok2x to na money from sari2x store to Mall.. Ect.

  3. #6833
    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Sakto gyud bro ! 1000% agree.... Sakto gyud si estor-boot, sa iyang Analysis.. 2004, 2007, 2010 kusog ang economy ... Tungod election year .... Massive Vote Buying plus gasto sa candidates prior sa election.... Na inject to na money sa economy... ug nagtuyok2x to na money from sari2x store to Mall.. Ect.
    yup tama ka ana bossing...

    basta naay elections, there will be boast of economy kay grabe man ang spending sa mga candidates and that will stimulate the market to do well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunyanggo1977 View Post
    yup tama ka ana bossing...

    basta naay elections, there will be boast of economy kay grabe man ang spending sa mga candidates and that will stimulate the market to do well...
    Agree nalang Bro Meo.. "aron dli ka magisa sa imong kaugalingong Mantika"
    During 2004 Election - Basaha ni Bro Meo : P728-million fertilizer scam - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos
    2004 : WHAT WENT BEFORE
    P728-million fertilizer scam

    ( Ang nasakpan lang na ha!)

    "Two months before the May 2004 presidential election, Sen. Panfilo Lacson, a presidential candidate, accused President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, herself running for election, of ?virtual vote-buying? by authorizing the release of P728 million to favored officials to buy farm inputs like fertilizer and pesticide for their constituents, as part of the Ginintuang Masaganang Ani project."

    2007 - Samot na.... ( Operation 12-0 ) ni Naapil tawn si Zubiri ....
    (Ang Nasakpan lang ni ha ! ) Philippines lost P101.82B to anomalies under Arroyo
    Philippines lost P101.82B to anomalies under Arroyo–COA
    MANILA, Philippines — The Philippines lost P101.82 billion through misuse of state funds and assets during the latter years of graft-tainted ex-president Gloria Arroyo’s rule, government auditors said Saturday.
    The Commission on Audit highlighted anomalies that mostly occurred in the 2007-2009 period in its investigation of more than 61,000 government agencies last year.

  5. #6835
    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Base sa imong latest link na gi provide particularly Sunstar News... I put these words into your mouth then usapa sad aron mahilisan ka ............... "In 2010, the $200-billion Philippine economy as measured by the World Bank surged to its highest level in 34 years due to " massive election spending and renewed business confidence." (Sunnex)
    i will go easy with you this time..

    now pila man ka % ang kanang massive election spending against sa renewed business confidence ?

    i keep asking you.. pila gyud ang total election spending? you implied dili minimum, it increase the GDP significantly.

    i gave a rough estimate at P20B basing from NEDA study and knowing theres an election spending cap, that estimate is more than of the actual spending plus not all spending would reflect into the GDP record. now I ask you does 20B election spending significantly increase GDP or minimum lang ang increase. I keep reiterating that election spending should record at $4B+ or 1% of the GDP increase. again pila man gud ang increase in your own opinion. if maghatag na pud ko link moingon "gisa ako" ikaw kuno hatag. explain your side...

    True giingnon, na nagcycle gyud ang money sa economy... kanang P20B ni recirculate somehow.. now tell me pila man pud na ka percent i .compare nimo sa $20B+ (dollars) OFW Remittances ? ? naa pa other factors that pump the economy bigger than P20B election spending.

    Growth by sector

    Private sector investment in construction, machinery and equipment resulted in a robust 17-percent growth in gross domestic [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue ! important]capital [COLOR=blue ! important]formation[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. This supported the healthy pace of growth in manufacturing and services, according to the NSCB.

    Industry contributed 3.9 percentage points to total [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]GDP [COLOR=blue !important]growth[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] on the back of brisk manufacturing, particularly electrical machinery, petroleum and coal products, and food?thanks to a strong pick-up in domestic demand and the rebound in external trade.

    The services sector contributed 3.5 percentage points to GDP growth, boosted by the strong performance of trade and private services. This was complemented by flourishing domestic investment, robust expansion in business process outsourcing, hotels and restaurants, wholesale and retail trade, and import and export trade.

    Due to fewer typhoons, the agriculture sector managed to grow 5.4 percent in the fourth quarter. ?Only two typhoons hit the country compared to seven in the last quarter of 2009,? Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Cayetano Paderanga noted.
    Nonetheless, full-year growth in agriculture, fishery and forestry was subdued due to the lingering effects of the El Niño weather phenomenon in the first half of 2010.

    PH economy grows at fastest pace in 24 yrs - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

    naa pa dinha breakdown by sector... mo.insist gihapon ka na dili minimum ang election spending?

  6. #6836
    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Agree nalang Bro Meo.. "aron dli ka magisa sa imong kaugalingong Mantika"
    During 2004 Election - Basaha ni Bro Meo : P728-million fertilizer scam - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos
    2004 : WHAT WENT BEFORE
    P728-million fertilizer scam

    ( Ang nasakpan lang na ha!)

    "Two months before the May 2004 presidential election, Sen. Panfilo Lacson, a presidential candidate, accused President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, herself running for election, of ?virtual vote-buying? by authorizing the release of P728 million to favored officials to buy farm inputs like fertilizer and pesticide for their constituents, as part of the Ginintuang Masaganang Ani project."

    2007 - Samot na.... ( Operation 12-0 ) ni Naapil tawn si Zubiri ....
    (Ang Nasakpan lang ni ha ! ) Philippines lost P101.82B to anomalies under Arroyo
    Philippines lost P101.82B to anomalies under Arroyo–COA
    MANILA, Philippines — The Philippines lost P101.82 billion through misuse of state funds and assets during the latter years of graft-tainted ex-president Gloria Arroyo’s rule, government auditors said Saturday.
    The Commission on Audit highlighted anomalies that mostly occurred in the 2007-2009 period in its investigation of more than 61,000 government agencies last year.
    that is why it is called "anomalies" dili pa certain.

    plus kapila naman na dismissed ang corruption charges kay GMA, connected ba gihapon siya sa fertilizer scam?

    relative ni Bolante is a major campaign contributor ni Penoy... ambot lang kung i.reopen nila ang case lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    i will go easy with you this time..

    now pila man ka % ang kanang massive election spending against sa renewed business confidence ?

    i keep asking you.. pila gyud ang total election spending? you implied dili minimum, it increase the GDP significantly.

    i gave a rough estimate at P20B basing from NEDA study and knowing theres an election spending cap, that estimate is more than of the actual spending plus not all spending would reflect into the GDP record. now I ask you does 20B election spending significantly increase GDP or minimum lang ang increase. I keep reiterating that election spending should record at $4B+ or 1% of the GDP increase. again pila man gud ang increase in your own opinion. if maghatag na pud ko link moingon "gisa ako" ikaw kuno hatag. explain your side...

    True giingnon, na nagcycle gyud ang money sa economy... kanang P20B ni recirculate somehow.. now tell me pila man pud na ka percent i .compare nimo sa $20B+ (dollars) OFW Remittances ? ? naa pa other factors that pump the economy bigger than P20B election spending.


    PH economy grows at fastest pace in 24 yrs - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

    naa pa dinha breakdown by sector... mo.insist gihapon ka na dili minimum ang election spending?
    Ana jud bro easy lang... Ang puso mo ingatan mo! Awww wala pa jud d.i ka kasabot Bro... tanang mga economic Analyst bisan asa ka na news sa Link gi provide nimo... Nag-ingon man na Due to election time mao nay resulta sa economy... Dli nako kinahanglan pakita sa akong computation kay 1000% agree raman ko kay Economist gud na sila.. Ikaw kay maayong laki man kaha about sa economy.. Since 2010 pa man kaha ka cge hisgot sa economy ug surrender imong kontra... Pakita imong computation dre kung maayong Laki ba jud ka compare sa mga known Economist... gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeojin View Post
    that is why it is called "anomalies" dili pa certain.

    plus kapila naman na dismissed ang corruption charges kay GMA, connected ba gihapon siya sa fertilizer scam?

    relative ni Bolante is a major campaign contributor ni Penoy... ambot lang kung i.reopen nila ang case lol
    . Ang punto diha Bro kung kanus-a na gipagawas ang pundo di ba during Election... Mao d.i ni surrender kontra nimo Bro kay dli jud ka kasabot.. For 2004 election: 728 milliion Pesos ang girelease illegaly (known as Fertilizer Scam).. 1 example lang na during 2004
    2007 : 101.82 Billion Pesos, ang part ana gigasto jud sa election....
    Nadismiss ang kaso ni GMA para sa gagmay na kaso pero ang Dagko Bro wla pa.. Gipriso pa tawn hangtod karon... (dli punto diha kung napriso ba si GMA ug si Bolante, ang punto diha nagbaha ang kwarta ni GMA during sa election).. Gahi pa man ka sa magkono pasabton Bro Meo...
    PS: wala pay apil diha ang gikan sa PCSO, OWWA ug mga legal na Project ....

  9. #6839
    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    Ana jud bro easy lang... Ang puso mo ingatan mo! Awww wala pa jud d.i ka kasabot Bro... tanang mga economic Analyst bisan asa ka na news sa Link gi provide nimo... Nag-ingon man na Due to election time mao nay resulta sa economy... Dli nako kinahanglan pakita sa akong computation kay 1000% agree raman ko kay Economist gud na sila.. Ikaw kay maayong laki man kaha about sa economy.. Since 2010 pa man kaha ka cge hisgot sa economy ug surrender imong kontra... Pakita imong computation dre kung maayong Laki ba jud ka compare sa mga known Economist... gets?
    gi estimate na gani at P20B lang na contribute sa economy even i.estimate nato at $1B total still gamay(minimum) na factor sa pag boost sa economy gets? i gave you a per sector contribution sa GDP, pila man tawon ang percentage ng election spending compared sa other factors that boost the economy?... ang P20B estimate base pud na sa computation sa NEDA if each running politician spend the max amount allotted by COMELEC! Now kung moingon ka naay factor such as vote buying, unsaon pag add na sa computation sa GDP?

    wala man giingon na major contribution ang election spending... so kung magsalig ka sa imong interpretation sa what nakabutang sa link.. you prove nothing ka klaro man pud they meant "extra money" lang ang election spending.

    OT:
    actually im not impress by your intellectual prowess, so no need to worry for my heart lol.

  10. #6840
    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo24 View Post
    . Ang punto diha Bro kung kanus-a na gipagawas ang pundo di ba during Election... Mao d.i ni surrender kontra nimo Bro kay dli jud ka kasabot.. For 2004 election: 728 milliion Pesos ang girelease illegaly (known as Fertilizer Scam).. 1 example lang na during 2004
    2007 : 101.82 Billion Pesos, ang part ana gigasto jud sa election....
    Nadismiss ang kaso ni GMA para sa gagmay na kaso pero ang Dagko Bro wla pa.. Gipriso pa tawn hangtod karon... (dli punto diha kung napriso ba si GMA ug si Bolante, ang punto diha nagbaha ang kwarta ni GMA during sa election).. Gahi pa man ka sa magkono pasabton Bro Meo...
    PS: wala pay apil diha ang gikan sa PCSO, OWWA ug mga legal na Project ....
    hahaha ask yourself unsaon pag-record kanang anomalies sa GDP if walay paper trails? IMF, World bank etc nag measure anang GDP.

    plus kung gikan sa gov't coffers in the first place... it is considered as government spending dili election spending? gets mo ?

    stop twisting... decided naman gud ko not to surrender mao na nag twist2x spin2x ka, term pa ni estor "master DJ".

    its a general courtesy here in the forum to place links to backed your words. asa man na gikuha nimo ang 101.82B pesos plus proof part ana gigasto sa election ? ?

    plus the longer this exchange of words (di man gud ni ma called debate lol) the more istoryan will know your reputation

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