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    Biblical truth. When we put God first, all other things fall into their proper place. John 3:16,psalm 139 & psalm 105:4. Amen

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Sakto jud ni bro. and to add more points....
    By showing love and concern, kita nga nakasabot sa kaluwasan naay responsibility to warn/share to others from the pending peril and destruction....dili nato pasagdan bisan unsa nalang ang ilang gituohan nga maoy insakto para nila or makaluwas.

    Just like an example sa atong anak ba, we love them and if we see something makadaut sa iyaha, of course we will find ways malayo siya ana, dili pasagdan bisan unsa nalang buhaton kay gilove nato.

    blessings bro.
    agree ko sa imu point regarding correction and warnings break,

    however how would we know nga sakto atong POV therefore correcting others?
    example is other denominations are accusing RCC as idolaters 'cause of some practices that
    they think contradicts with the Bible, but in the RC's POV it doesnt and they can also back it up with
    explanations...at the end of the day, corrections and warnings would or might still cause division

    mao ingun ko i'd rather focus on what Jesus said about Loving others as myself...
    kay sometimes the best expression of Love is to let go...
    share as much as we can but pointing fingers and putting labels like how others do is not Love at all.
    it's just purely disrespectful. correction and warnings can be an act of Love of course
    but the act of Love is not limited to corrections and warnings only.

    salamat sa well wishes break, same to you

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    biblical truth is relative TS. meanings of a verse in the Bible without proper guidance of the Holy Spirit
    and with wrong intentions and drive can be twisted.

    if i'm caught in the middle, apart from raising questions/verifications about the reasons,history details of the traditions/practices i'm suppose to observe provided that i search both sides of the coin if there are opposing parties to be fair...
    i would rather focus on what Jesus said to Love God above all else and others as myself for these commandmants
    cannot be quantified by religious barriers.
    Sakto ka noy, but love is not always the message of religious leaders. Infact, you will shock muslims if you tell them that God is love.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    agree ko sa imu point regarding correction and warnings break,

    however how would we know nga sakto atong POV therefore correcting others?
    example is other denominations are accusing RCC as idolaters 'cause of some practices that
    they think contradicts with the Bible, but in the RC's POV it doesnt and they can also back it up with
    explanations...at the end of the day, corrections and warnings would or might still cause division

    mao ingun ko i'd rather focus on what Jesus said about Loving others as myself...
    kay sometimes the best expression of Love is to let go...
    share as much as we can but pointing fingers and putting labels like how others do is not Love at all.
    it's just purely disrespectful. correction and warnings can be an act of Love of course
    but the act of Love is not limited to corrections and warnings only.

    salamat sa well wishes break, same to you
    Mu comment lang jud ko bro.

    I am sorry to disagree. But love is not the defined by letting go without doing anything with those who are erring. Parents best knows love. They have to do something if their beloved children have done something wrong.

    biblical correction should be carried out because of love. And it should also be carried out out of fear. This is what Ezekiel 3:18 says
    18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[b] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself.

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    pasalamat gyud ko sa akong ginikanan nga mao ni ila gihatag nako nga name...kay murag na swak ra man sad sa ako pag tuo

    Hebrew Meaning:
    The name Danny is a Hebrew baby name. In Hebrew the meaning of the name Danny is: A Hebrew Daniel, meaning God has judged, or God is judge

    Matthew 24:15

    So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand

    karon sakto pa kaha ta hehehe

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Mu comment lang jud ko bro.

    I am sorry to disagree. But love is not the defined by letting go without doing anything with those who are erring. Parents best knows love. They have to do something if their beloved children have done something wrong.

    biblical correction should be carried out because of love. And it should also be carried out out of fear. This is what Ezekiel 3:18 says
    18 When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for[b] their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself.
    im sorry you misunderstood me, letting go after sharing the idea.
    mao ni ingun ko correction and warnings can be an act of Love
    but Love is not limited to corrections alone.

    when i said sometimes the best expression of Love is to let go
    in a way that God let us go with our freewill despite of His instructions. though He can redirect us to His path in His own way
    while we cant..so we can only let go and let God..if God respects, why can't we do the same?
    if we really think others are wrong about their faith, why argue after stressing out the point?
    why not pray instead? after all, we can all agree that we are not really sure if how we interpret the scriptures
    is what God really has in mind...so why point fingers and put labels?(not in this thread though but its common within these types of conversations)

    sometimes man gud i often find people insisting things on how they understood the Bible,or how their religion instructs,beliefs and interpretations..
    thinking they are just sharing and correcting when actually it has gone beyond the barriers of respect.
    Last edited by noy; 01-29-2013 at 10:11 PM.

  7. #27
    lisoda pud ana ue... kai even though maka weigh ka... nga mas true jud ang biblical pero ang tradition kai part naman sad gud sa culture... and now a days culture is playing a very important rule to the society.

  8. #28
    @noy, life

    Naa bayay point puro ang duha brods warning them and letting go....sakto tang tulo..hehhee.

    Mao jud @noy, warning them first then let go.....naa ra nila kung motuo or dili.

    And to those wala pa makabalo about salvation in Christ, nindot sad sultian/sharean....
    Mura ug atong pinanggang anak ba, we raised them well para nindot ang ilang padulngan....but if something crooked nistart ug influence sa iya of course i correct jud nato and teach him kung unsay insakto....but if he insists, let him go but always warn him of the consequence sa iyang choices.

    In ana sad atong ginoo coz He is a Moral/Righteous God, he doesnt wants us to be lost. Because of our freewill we can always choose to do our own....pero ang consequence dili jud mawala which is death. The love of God is always coupled with His Justice. Kay kung puro lang sad love, walay kalainan sa kang Jovi nga impersonal god...welcome bisan kinsa ang giila nga ginoo. Now, the cross of Christ will be of no effect.

    This is what i understand about the love/mercy of God and His Justice...

    Exodus 34:7
    He graciously loves thousands, and forgives iniquity, transgression, and sin. But he does not leave the guilty unpunished,
    Last edited by Breakeven; 01-30-2013 at 04:31 AM.

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    pasensya kung mag apil2x ko ninyo...hehehe

    kung kitang tanan mga anank sa Dios meaning dili kita parehas sa amahan, mga manag so-on lamang kita, tinood nga pwedi nato pagbadlongon ang atong mga igsoon kung tan-aw nato nag buhatna kini ug dili maayo, apan sigurado kaha kita nga sakto sad ang ato mga gipangbuhat? kung pagtun-an na gani kabahin sa kaluwasan siguro wa pay usa nato nga sakto, kay Dios lang ang pwedi makahukom kanato bahin sa kaluwasan.

    ang sigurado ko, parehas ra ta ug giila nga manluluwas, ug giila nga amahan, apan managlahi lng ang atong pama-agi sa pag sunod kaniya, kanang tanan puros na insakto way sayop, gawas lang kung klaro na gyud kaayo nga lahina ang iyang gi-ilang Dios, ug moguwas na siya sa pagtulon-an nga dapat sundon.
    Last edited by slabdans; 01-30-2013 at 07:10 AM.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    i would rather focus on what Jesus said to Love God above all else and others as myself for these commandmants
    cannot be quantified by religious barriers.
    Which is the Biblical truth...

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