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  1. #1901

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs

    If you are aware also about the warnings in the bible regarding the last days....tingali masabtan nimo unsa na nga deception ang imong nasudlan! you have to consider bro nga kana nga teachings sa OCCULT is an age-old practice nga gi condemned sa Ginoo since sa OT times. IT IS PAGAN AND SATANIC!!!

    Kung gusto ka makabalo ngano, you should learn the biblical history of God's people. Dili na IMPERSONAL GOD ang nag warn sa ilaha.

    I have some questions sa imong belief about Jesus Christ:

    1) Do you believe of the virgin birth of Christ
    2) Do you believe of all of His miracles
    3) Do you believe that He resurrected from the dead

    I want solid proof or reference, not just TSISMISS para lang modaut the Jesus Christ of the Bible!
    kinsa ang nagwarn sa bible bro, si Jesus? verse daw bro. condemned? so you mean Moses and David pud? wa man gani ka kaila unsa satan? kabalo ka kinsay mga pagan, mga Romans na sauna? kabalo ka ug kinsa ang Roman sauna tigpersecute sa mga original Christians, si Saul/Paul na. mao na siya ang nag-usab sa original Christianity nga mao na inyoha karon.

    kinsa man lagi ang nagwarn?

    1. hehehe, i won't share what I know, it is a secret
    2. Yes, everyone can perform what miracles he had done, as long you have a faith of a mustard said, those are the applications of the Universal Laws of God
    3. Jesus did not die on the cross, he was raised from the dead but as a physical body, only the physical bodies can be seen by the eyes, the spiritual body and soul of man cannot be seen

    Jesus was crucified not just once. But i won't share it here. maybe next year. The crucificion that most of you know was the crucifiction when Jesus was accused of rebellion against the Romans. But the true crucifiction, you don't know.

  2. #1902

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    kinsa ang nagwarn sa bible bro, si Jesus?
    nangutana ka kinsa nag hatag sa warning? tan-awa? kinsa may gipang mention diha

    Matthew 7:15-20
    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    2 Peter 2:1&3
    1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.

    3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

    1 John 4:1-3
    Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    si paul nag fabricate ba siyag story?...b4 siya nag sangyaw sa maayong balita..kinsa may gisugo sa Dios pagpa adto niya? diba ang mga tinon-an man ni Jesus?

    karon kinsa man ninyo duha ni paul ang nag fabricate ug storya ani ron kabahin ug illusion, reincarnation, about your so called true Christianity?
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-18-2012 at 02:46 PM.

  3. #1903

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Pero wala mo kaila unsa ang one and only Son of God, bec you were not taught by a teacher. Igo ra mo gi preachan ana by a preacher nga wala gyud tugkara ug sabta ug maayo, ang pag interpret gi base man sa nasabtan sa utok, maong dili gyud makabalo ug unsa gyud. Your Christianity is by Paul, he revised from the true Chritianity of Jesus. You are followers of Paul, not students of the Christianity of Jesus
    Matthew 1:20-23
    But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.
    All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”)

    sure ka? wala mi kaila?

    Matthew 16:24
    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

    kinsa may among gi gi sunod? si Budha ba?
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-18-2012 at 03:24 PM.

  4. #1904

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    bro kana nga mga verse, si Jesus ang nag storya ana or si Paul?
    kinsa may nag sugo ni paul para mag preach Jovi?

  5. #1905

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    nangutana ka kinsa nag hatag sa warning? tan-awa? kinsa may gipang mention diha

    Matthew 7:15-20
    15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

    2 Peter 2:1&3
    1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.

    3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

    1 John 4:1-3
    Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    si paul nag fabricate ba siyag story?...b4 siya nag sangyaw sa maayong balita..kinsa may gisugo sa Dios pagpa adto niya? diba ang mga tinon-an man ni Jesus?

    karon kinsa man ninyo duha ni paul ang nag fabricate ug storya ani ron kabahin ug illusion, reincarnation, about your so called true Christianity?
    so when Jesus warned about the false prophets, naa na si Paul?

    was Paul a direct student of Jesus or even a student of the 1st students of Jesus?

    kanang sa Matthew 7:15-20 - ang pasabot anang Jesus i check ang binuhatan, mao na iyang giingon "By their fruit you will recognize them". Unsa man ang binuhatan ni Paul before siya tigsangyaw about Jesus?

    2 Peter 2:1&3
    if we say "secretly" - possible ba nga kamo sa religion nga Christian wala mo kabalo
    destructive - unsa kaha ang destructions? killing the unbelievers? or those in different religion?
    fabricated - how to determine a fabricated stories? ang usa ka teaching nga gi pa probe nimo, possible ba nga fabricated stories? or unsa kaha ang fabricated stories, ang gipatoo lng or ang gitudlo gyud?

    1 John 4:1-3
    kulang man ng imoha, kumpletuha, naa ky hidden agenda:

    New International Version (NIV)
    On Denying the Incarnation

    4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

    ask ko nimo bro, direct student ba si Paul ni Jesus?

  6. #1906

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    kinsa may nag sugo ni paul para mag preach Jovi?
    hehehe, maayo na bro, pangutana, tubagon ug pangutana pud.

    kinsa lagi ang nagstorya ato nga verse, si Paul or si Jesus?
    Last edited by jovipeorliohacokijo; 12-18-2012 at 03:31 PM.

  7. #1907

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    so when Jesus warned about the false prophets, naa na si Paul?

    was Paul a direct student of Jesus or even a student of the 1st students of Jesus?

    kanang sa Matthew 7:15-20 - ang pasabot anang Jesus i check ang binuhatan, mao na iyang giingon "By their fruit you will recognize them". Unsa man ang binuhatan ni Paul before siya tigsangyaw about Jesus?

    2 Peter 2:1&3
    if we say "secretly" - possible ba nga kamo sa religion nga Christian wala mo kabalo
    destructive - unsa kaha ang destructions? killing the unbelievers? or those in different religion?
    fabricated - how to determine a fabricated stories? ang usa ka teaching nga gi pa probe nimo, possible ba nga fabricated stories? or unsa kaha ang fabricated stories, ang gipatoo lng or ang gitudlo gyud?

    1 John 4:1-3
    kulang man ng imoha, kumpletuha, naa ky hidden agenda:

    New International Version (NIV)
    On Denying the Incarnation

    4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

    ask ko nimo bro, direct student ba si Paul ni Jesus?
    Acts 9:5-6
    And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
    And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

    that is ther conversation...dili di ie na sya direct conversation? klaro ana oh nagka istorya gyud sila
    was Paul a direct student of Jesus or even a student of the 1st students of Jesus?
    1 John 4:1-3
    Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
    --mao na tubag Jovi...regarding sa imo pangutana b4 siya nahimo ngatug sangyaw..I think bro Breakeven already answered that question.
    kanang sa Matthew 7:15-20 - ang pasabot anang Jesus i check ang binuhatan, mao na iyang giingon "By their fruit you will recognize them". Unsa man ang binuhatan ni Paul before siya tigsangyaw about Jesus?

    that the reason why God give us warning..question Jovi..si Jesus ba nag tudlo namo ug secret?
    ikaw ra nag himo anang imong destruction...sa wala nimo pag sunod ni Jesus mao na imong destruction
    fabricated--kana di ie imo reincarnation ug 3rd eye gi Tudlo ba na ni Jesus? ang pag anhi ni Jesus sa kalibutan wal mo engon nga mag tudlo 3rd eye ni anhi siya to save his people from sin.
    Regarding 1 John 4:1-3 cge ato kompletohon unsa imo gusto mahibaw-an?
    2 Peter 2:1&3
    if we say "secretly" - possible ba nga kamo sa religion nga Christian wala mo kabalo
    destructive - unsa kaha ang destructions? killing the unbelievers? or those in different religion?
    fabricated - how to determine a fabricated stories? ang usa ka teaching nga gi pa probe nimo, possible ba nga fabricated stories? or unsa kaha ang fabricated stories, ang gipatoo lng or ang gitudlo gyud?

    1 John 4:1-3
    kulang man ng imoha, kumpletuha, naa ky hidden agenda:
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-18-2012 at 03:57 PM.

  8. #1908

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    hehehe, maayo na bro, pangutana, tubagon ug pangutana pud.

    kinsa lagi ang nagstorya ato nga verse, si Paul or si Jesus?
    nindot sad imo pangutana..ngeta ka sa author para ma insert nimo ang imong version? click here

  9. #1909

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    Matthew 1:20-23
    But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.
    All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”)

    sure ka? wala mi kaila?

    Matthew 16:24
    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

    kinsa may among gi gi sunod? si Budha ba?
    gitudlo na namo about birth ni Jesus bro and kinsa iyang papa. but sorry, dili nako pwede i share diri.

    deny themselves? unsay pasabot ana bro? how can you deny your ownself?

    follow me? unsaon pag follow nimo ni Jesus?

    any proof bro that by just believing you have everlasting life.

  10. #1910

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sa Acts 9:1-2 siya mismo (Paul) nag lagot sa mga tinoan ni Jesus mao gani nangayo siya permiso sa mga sinagoga, para iyang gukoron ug e persecute ang mga tinon-an...kang kinsa gani nga tinon-an Jovi? ka Jesus diba.
    Acts 9:3 --sa iyang pag padung na ngadto sa Damascus, duna siyay nakita nga kahayag gikan sa langit nga nag engon Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me karon jovi balik sa nahauna kinsa gani to iya e persecute?
    Acts 9:5-6 --Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

    after that what happens jovi? dont try to change of what is written
    karon mo ingon pa gyud ka wa siya kahibaw ug kinsa nga Jesus ang iya gi refer? baliki ang 1st verse ug kinsa iyang gusto e persecute para mailhan nimo kung kinsa ang gi refer sa bible
    klaro kaayo ang storya is based ni Paul, ky wala naman si Jesus ani, sakto ba?

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