The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

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asa nga pangutana bro?

unsa diay naa sa initiation ug sharing diri based sa ilang posts?

[neshem]

unsa diay naa sa initiation ug sharing diri based sa ilang posts?

secret

hahaha btaw bro...dapat nagbuhat kag imohang thread kay medyo layo naman gud sa title ang na discuss ninyo..murag daghan man gud nag ask nimo para matubag nimo pag ayo..gusto man kaha ka makasabot ang wala nakasabot?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

secret

hahaha btaw bro...dapat nagbuhat kag imohang thread kay medyo layo naman gud sa title ang na discuss ninyo..murag daghan man gud nag ask nimo para matubag nimo pag ayo..gusto man kaha ka makasabot ang wala nakasabot?

ganahan ko mubuhat pero natanggong ko diri nga thread tungod sa kadaghan nila sa Christian nga religion vs nga ako ra sa Christian nga school. usahay dili na mapugngan tungod sa kadaghan, ma share nako ang secret na pero maayo gani ky secret lng gihapon, ky di man masabtan.

kung ganahan gyud ka, sabta ang basic, if naa na kay daghang nabasahan, advisable gyud look for a teacher, ky tanan ni-agi mn gyud pagka student before sila nahimong teacher. gusto ko nga makasabot ang uban but kabalo ko wai lain, pinaagi ra gyud sa teacher, then naa man basic nga akong gi share nga pwede sa public. it's a good start na, after pila ka months, makasabot na dayon. naa man gud na sa practice ang pagsabot ug dili sa basabasa lng ug sa reasearch. pareha ana, nganong impersonal ang Christ, sa practice ra na mahibaw-an gyud.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ JOVI ...

I was talking about the JOURNEY of JESUS .

You cant relate or reconcile OT to the JOURNEY'S of JESUS CHRIST at all and that is absolute biblically.

Unsay proof nimo , literature , traditions , written manifestations , historical backgrounds , etc sa mga journey's ni JESUS CHRIST outside the HOLY LAND prior to ASCENSION ?

Seriously , I am curious to know what you hold.

[Breakeven]

@jovs

If you are aware also about the warnings in the bible regarding the last days....tingali masabtan nimo unsa na nga deception ang imong nasudlan! you have to consider bro nga kana nga teachings sa OCCULT is an age-old practice nga gi condemned sa Ginoo since sa OT times. IT IS PAGAN AND SATANIC!!!

Kung gusto ka makabalo ngano, you should learn the biblical history of God's people. Dili na IMPERSONAL GOD ang nag warn sa ilaha.

I have some questions sa imong belief about Jesus Christ:

1) Do you believe of the virgin birth of Christ
2) Do you believe of all of His miracles
3) Do you believe that He resurrected from the dead

I want solid proof or reference, not just TSISMISS para lang modaut the Jesus Christ of the Bible!

[Breakeven]

@jovs

hehehe. Jesus was a student (naay verse pag 12 niya), then between 12-30, he studied more when he went to egypt, india and the himalaya, naay mi mga record ana (secret sauna but naay authorized to present to the public) but sa inyoha wala.

Ayaw sigeg istorya anang mga non-sense bro!
Kung naa moy record ipakita ang ebidensya nga nasuwat na sya sa panahon mismo ni Christ or duol2 nga tuig….ayaw mi pakit-a anang mga gnostic gospels which were written hundred years after the early Christian church naporma. Kinahanglan makasabot ka bro nga even sa panahon ni Christ, daghan na ang ni-oppose sa iyaha trying to discredit His personhood and his claims! Kana maoy wala nimo masabti kay imo lang giparehas siya sa imong level nga taw and the rest of the prophets!

then he went back to John the Baptist and found out nga mas daghan na siya ug knowledge but still Jesus praised his main teacher,

Kinsa may name sa iyang teacher sa India, Egypt, Himalayas? Hatagi mi ug proof dili trismiss!
or else hatagi mi ug pangan kinsa nga teacher nga mas nakalabaw sa iyang power kung student man jud kaha siya...

then Jesus was baptized/initiated so he was authorized to become a teacher. as the Christ, he started the school of Christianity and started accepting students, not only Jews but also Gentiles. Some of his students he called disciples was baptized by him and they also became teachers and accepting students.

Since Jesus Christ performed all those miracles and you said naa syay mga students, kinsa man sa iyang mga students kung naa kay record who is able to raise the dead? Even this present time, kinsa sa imohang nabaloan nga naay power to raise the dead?

Ang tinood nga Christianity is a school and not a religion. Naay teachers not preachers. Naay students not followers. Naay teachings, tests, experiments, not beliefs.

Ang tinuod nga Christianity are the ones who trusted His word in the Bible. dili kay ang PAGAN OCCULTISM.

JESUS CHRIST is the truth bro, he is not a religion. If you accept and trust his promised to save your soul when you die, then youll have a chance to be with him in eternity!

Yes, naay syay teachings, tests, experiments as well as belief. That’s why test yourself if you experience the power of the Holy Spirit in your life! Or else BUTA gihapon ka until now about the purpose of your existence and the reality!

Sa inyohang religion nga Christianity, naay preachers, ug followers ug mga beliefs lng prone to mistakes and doubts.

That’s why naay written word para dili lang kay istorbot ang istoryahan! Naa mismo antique reference. Ikaw, unsa may kalainan nimo sa mga barangan, mananag-an, usikan, all other forms of witchcraft? Naa man jud na silay proof sa ilang gahum sad pero walay written reference?

so asa man ang false ug fake ani ron?

Ang imong Christianity, kay sige kag quote ug verse sa bible unya Reincarnation ang imong gituohan. Ngano diay kung pasagdan nalang nimo imong kinabuhi total magbalik2 raman kaha ka sa kalibutan? Unya perfect naman kaha ka nganong mobalik paman ka diri sa kalibutan kung para nimo illusion rani diri?

to prove is naay mga martyrs not knowing unsay cause ug real reasons nganong nahimong martyrs. converted the school of Christianity into a religion by a pagan emperor who used to persecute students and teachers of the school of Christianity of Jesus. and evil and weak person. believed in Paul who used to persecute students and teachers of the true Christianity.

Grabe jud nga pagkailad nimo @jovs sa imong PAGAN belief! Si Apostle Paul pa hinuon ang imong gipasanginlan nga nag-persecute? Yes true, he persecuted the christians at first but when Jesus revealed to Him in his way to Damascus, diha niya na proved that Jesus Christ is indeed the SON OF GOD! na changed sya totally and made his commitment to be the servant of the Lord….and offered His life!

Jesus never started a religion. Jesus started a school of Christianity. to guide students in the right path back to the Kingdom of God.

JESUS never started both!
Rather he revealed the TRUTH of himself that HE WAS THE SON OF GOD and IS THE COMING KING in the KINGDOM of GOD!

Make yourself ready jovs!

"And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." MATTHEW 24:30

"...when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." 2 THESSALONIANS 1:7-9

When Jesus appears it will be to BRING THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THIS WICKED WORLD:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them." ROMANS 1:18-19

[slabdans]

kung kasulay ka anha ka kabalo, pero talawan man ka ky basin unya ug naay mugawas nga satan, multo, engkanto or agta. paela ka nga wala ky salig praying to Jesus and to God.

ngano mo suway man ko...parehas ra man na sa sulti ni satan kang eve na ipabuhat nako...

[Breakeven]

ngano mo suway man ko...parehas ra man na sa sulti ni satan kang eve na ipabuhat nako...

That's it bro!
Kana gud dili na si @jovs mahadlok sa mga warnings sa bible ug sa personal God kay iyang nasuwayan nya wala ra siya maunsa though he's already a fallen victim of satan's lies. In ani ka complex ang reality of the soul and the truth of God's word. Dili diha2 ang resulta but we are unconsciously deceived na diay sa mga tricks sa yawa.

@jovs
Matud pa nimo bro, everything in this world is just an illusion, so anha rana nimo masabtan kung unsay kamatuoran diay jovs inig kamatay na nimo!

[Breakeven]

ok ra na bro. mao nai giingon nga dili pa gyud ka ready musabot ana. medyo bagabaga pa gyud seguro ka ug karma from the past.

Ako sad maingon bro, nga dili jud ka makasabot sa truths diha sa bible kay pwerte sad kabaga sa lies ni Satan nga nag insulate sa imong kasing2.

Romans 1
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when
they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

The Apostle Paul is talking about the PERSONAL GOD, not your impersonal god and reincarnation.

[Breakeven]

@jovs

naa sa Genesis, katong story ni Adam ug Eve katong pag eat na sa apple. dili to tinood, symbolism lng to.

Posible metaphorical, posible literal. Pero diin manka anang APPLE, asa na nga verse makita? See how deceptive your belief is….
sa akong sabot pud @jovs, kanang tree of knowledge of good and evil kay kana imong gisudlan nga OCCULT practice! Kana gud nagtuo naka sa imong self kay na-open na imong third-eye nga ginoo nasad ka/or one with god.

Kita spiritual being in the Kingdom of God. As God is like a King, kita tanan spiritual beings sige lng ta ug follow.

Giunsa man nimo paghuna-huna anang impersonal nga King? Yes, we are created nga naay freewill but we are obliged to follow the rules nga iyang gihatag inorder to live with him in harmony throughout eternity. But we choose to rebel and disobey.

Ang tanan hierarchy, including the Archangels apil pud. But Lucifer ni question siya nganong God na lng gyud pirmi ang matuman, so naghinay hinay siya ug convince nato nga dapat dili lng sige ug sunod sunod. so ni rebelde ta, kung diri pa sa atoa, ni protesta.

Are you not aware bro nga kana imong gibuhat mao nana siya? Imong reference kay bible, unya imong gibuhat kay against sa teachings sa bible. REINCARNATION is rooted from Hinduism/Buddhism, not in the bible.

so ky ganahan man ta magtuman, dili na ta musunod sa God, and in the Kingdom of God, tanan magsunod gyud sa God, so dili na ta pwede didto. And so gipadala ta dri sa earth.

Lol Diin manka nakabasa ana nga teachings bro?
Ang akong nasabtan diha sa bible no kay si Satan/Lucifer and part of the angels nga nisunod niya maoy gi cast sa Ginoo from His presence because of their rebellion! It is VERY OBVIOUS nga ang evil who influence you is part of those nga gi cast out.

Ayaw panabla sa amoa kay ang creation sa ginoo sa taw is different from the angels.

gihimoan ta ug physical body. Now naa man nahabilin didto nga remain obedient ni God, ganahan ta tabangan and so diri sila sa earth, mga messengers ni God pareha nila Jesus ug Buddha, and tudlu-an ta ug magpaubos ug balik sa God. be obedient again sa God. And then mabalik ra ta didto inig kadugayan ang important nga dili nata magtuman, obedient na sa God. mao nga gikan pa nila ni Moses hangtud ni Jesus ug sa karon nga mga modern teachers, always gyud:

"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'" (Luke 10:27))

Pagkanindot jud paminawn aning imong mga verses bro! ang imo ra jud belief of an impersonal God and reincarnation maoy nakadaut! Wagtanga ang imong IMPERSONAL GOD and REINCARNATION, motuo ko nimo!

I agree that your intention is goodness, pero ang agenda to divert our worship from the true and living God of the bible naa gihapon, still I’ll consider it the good side of Satanic lies.