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  1. #1891

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    He was the one giving the wrong information about Christ bec he was not a student of Jesus. He didn't know that the Christ that Jesus was referring to was the attainment of Jesus' soul, that is the Christ.

    It will be very hard for a person who had kill someone or cause the death of others to become a student of secret schools or the school of Christianity of Jesus.

    Acts 9
    King James Version (KJV)

    20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

    21 But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?

    22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.
    He was the one giving the wrong information about Christ bec he was not a student of Jesus. He didn't know that the Christ that Jesus was referring to was the attainment of Jesus' soul, that is the Christ.
    sa Acts 9:1-2 siya mismo (Paul) nag lagot sa mga tinoan ni Jesus mao gani nangayo siya permiso sa mga sinagoga, para iyang gukoron ug e persecute ang mga tinon-an...kang kinsa gani nga tinon-an Jovi? ka Jesus diba.
    Acts 9:3 --sa iyang pag padung na ngadto sa Damascus, duna siyay nakita nga kahayag gikan sa langit nga nag engon Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me karon jovi balik sa nahauna kinsa gani to iya e persecute?
    Acts 9:5-6 --Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

    after that what happens jovi? dont try to change of what is written
    karon mo ingon pa gyud ka wa siya kahibaw ug kinsa nga Jesus ang iya gi refer? baliki ang 1st verse ug kinsa iyang gusto e persecute para mailhan nimo kung kinsa ang gi refer sa bible
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-18-2012 at 12:46 PM.

  2. #1892

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    God's love is always unconditional.
    Yes agree ko ana but we have to make sure kung kinsa nga God ang imo gi refer

    mao nay rason ngano iya gipadala si Jesus sa kalibutan to save us from sin

    John 3:16 -For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-18-2012 at 12:43 PM.

  3. #1893

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    God's love is always unconditional.
    Not all the time bro. It is always coupled with Justice.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world (all people/sinners, unconditional) that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes (condition) in him should not perish (his justice) but have everlasting life.

    Yes he can forgive a killer, rapist, evil person who will repent no matter unsa ka dautan sa iyang past. But do you think if he's been forgiven nya mag sige gihapon sya balik2 sa mao ra gihapong sala...malipay ang ginoo ana? Will he not execute his Justice?

    Dili ka makasabot sa righteousness sa ginoo bro kung ang imong ginoo walay kabuot (intellect, will, emotion), i mean impersonal. Mao nang evil and good sa imoha co-existing ra, not caused by the Devil.

  4. #1894

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @nya kinsa man diay ang names sa student ni jesus nga naay insaktong information? you mean, mas nakabalo paka kay ni apostle paul nga mismo nausab totally ang kinabuhi tungod sa iyang na experience nga revelation sa ginoo sa iyaha?

    Nya posible ba sa umaabot mahimo sad kang parehas ni Jesus Christ kagamhanan? hunong na anang imong illusion bro oi...
    bitaw bro, kanang story ni Paul, klaro man kaayo naay something behind it:
    1. Roman siya originally
    2. tig persecute sa original Christians nga student sa original school of Christianity ni Jesus
    3. dili siya direct student ni Jesus - meaning wala siya niagi ug teacher and the secret teachings of the school of Jesus was never taught to him
    4. as a non student - wala siya matudlu-i sa saktong teachings about Christ
    5. only evil ang masulawan sa siga sa Ginoo, ang mga true Christians, always looking for light of God

    Ikaw bro you are actually following the teachings of Paul and not the teachings of Jesus.

    Kinsa man nag ingon nimo nga gahum gahum na to attain Christ? syempre ang kato ra pud wala kabalo unsa ang Christ.

  5. #1895

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Not all the time bro. It is always coupled with Justice.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world (all people/sinners, unconditional) that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes (condition) in him should not perish (his justice) but have everlasting life.

    Yes he can forgive a killer, rapist, evil person who will repent no matter unsa ka dautan sa iyang past. But do you think if he's been forgiven nya mag sige gihapon sya balik2 sa mao ra gihapong sala...malipay ang ginoo ana? Will he not execute his Justice?

    Dili ka makasabot sa righteousness sa ginoo bro kung ang imong ginoo walay kabuot (intellect, will, emotion), i mean impersonal. Mao nang evil and good sa imoha co-existing ra, not caused by the Devil.
    dili Ginoo ang naghatag ug condition ana, wai Ginoo nga muhatag ug condition, it only means you created a limitation for God, you think that God's love has limitation, and that God has limits. wala pa man gani nakatugkad gyud ni God, unya kamo inyoha na gibuhatan ug limitation. only evil can twist that.

  6. #1896

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    Yes agree ko ana but we have to make sure kung kinsa nga God ang imo gi refer

    mao nay rason ngano iya gipadala si Jesus sa kalibutan to save us from sin

    John 3:16 -For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
    Pero wala mo kaila unsa ang one and only Son of God, bec you were not taught by a teacher. Igo ra mo gi preachan ana by a preacher nga wala gyud tugkara ug sabta ug maayo, ang pag interpret gi base man sa nasabtan sa utok, maong dili gyud makabalo ug unsa gyud. Your Christianity is by Paul, he revised from the true Chritianity of Jesus. You are followers of Paul, not students of the Christianity of Jesus

  7. #1897

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sa Acts 9:1-2 siya mismo (Paul) nag lagot sa mga tinoan ni Jesus mao gani nangayo siya permiso sa mga sinagoga, para iyang gukoron ug e persecute ang mga tinon-an...kang kinsa gani nga tinon-an Jovi? ka Jesus diba.
    Acts 9:3 --sa iyang pag padung na ngadto sa Damascus, duna siyay nakita nga kahayag gikan sa langit nga nag engon Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me karon jovi balik sa nahauna kinsa gani to iya e persecute?
    Acts 9:5-6 --Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

    after that what happens jovi? dont try to change of what is written
    karon mo ingon pa gyud ka wa siya kahibaw ug kinsa nga Jesus ang iya gi refer? baliki ang 1st verse ug kinsa iyang gusto e persecute para mailhan nimo kung kinsa ang gi refer sa bible
    bro kana nga mga verse, si Jesus ang nag storya ana or si Paul?

  8. #1898

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs

    ikaw bro, unsa may image and likeness sa Ginoo nga naa sa atua nga wala sa animals? kung gikan ta sa mananap bro ni-evolve lang, walay relation ang Creation account sa Genesis sa imong belief, therefore ayaw pagquote ug verse sa bible nga i-twist nimo to suit your own agenda kay molutaw ra gihapon ang kamatuoran!
    this is not my personal agenda bro, this is the teaching of Jesus since the start of the true Christianity, a school founded by Jesus and not your Christianity nga religion. tanan students pareha ug nasabtan ky gipasabot namo, gi pa prove namo personally. Asa man diay ang twisted, ang gikan ni Jesus or ang gikan ni Paul. asa man diay ang twisted ang original Christianity or ang bag-ong Christianity.

    Bro, ang Ginoo dili makita, ang soul sa tawo dili makita, mao na ang image nga pareha sa Ginoo. dili ang atong body. Ang Ginoo walai limitation, ang atong soul pud wala. Kung himoon nimo ug personal ang Ginoo, tabla ra ug gihimo-an nimo ang God ug limitation. Bec your brain is limited, so imoha pud gihimo-an ang God ug limitation.

  9. #1899

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    @ Jovi straight bi sa kadaghan sa mo defination... asa man ana imo gusto pili ug usa
    kana tanan nga definition.

    ask ko nimo bro, nganong nakaingon man ka nga ang Ginoo makita ang ubang parte sa lawas except lng sa iyang face? Kita naka sa iyang lawas bro?

  10. #1900

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Prodigal Son lng bro, or katong Lost Sheep. but naa pay daghan unya na lng.
    asa naman tong explanation about Parables bro. tabangi ninyo ni Bro Slabdans.

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