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  1. #1661

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


    "Behold, the Kingdom of God is within you"
    - Jesus the Christ

    "To commune daily with God in deep meditation,
    and to carry His love and guidance with you into all your dutiful activities
    is the way that leads to permanent peace and happiness."
    -Paramahansa Yogananda

  2. #1662

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovi

    ask ko nimo kadaghan bro, pero murag wala man ky answer ani, yes or no ra ang gipangayo. evil ba diay kung wagtangon imong ego ug desires? evil ba diay to be physically detached? evil ba diay to be in pure goodness: words, thoughts, deeds?
    Bro, it's all about OBEDIENCE!
    There's a saying, OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice. Also, ignorance of the law excuses no one.

    Yes true its not evil pagwagtang sa desires, physically detached, pure goodness…the question, is that what's required by GOD?

    Consider the garden of Eden, what God required from Adam and Eve? OBEDIENCE in HIM. What they did? Disregard God’s command and ate the fruit. Now is eating evil? NO. In fact its good for the health. What’s evil bro is their willful rejection of God’s command. They listened to the devil and made their own ways to understand reality. EVIL is the negligence/violation of purpose. The same thing of GOD sending His Son as the perfect sacrifice for us to get reconciled back to Him, it’s up to us if we REJECT that gift and do what is good in our own eyes.

    Pwede kayo ta bro to become good but not righteous but we can always be good if we are righteous.. Being good bro is generic kayo….pwede ang example ni Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, etc. atong sundon, theyre all good but what God requires from us is the Righteousness through His Son Jesus Christ.

    God created the universe and we humans for a PURPOSE. and this will link to a will…the question is whose will? None other than GOD’s will and PURPOSE and you can only recognize if the one who created is a PERSONAL GOD.

    An example bro:

    *Management of Istorya.net magpa RAFFLE ug House and Lot (hapit na rabang Christmas) hehehh/.
    Ang rule is to fill up the ticket completely and drop in a certain box. What you did is you filled up the form but you drop in another box which by doing so is not evil. Do you think naa kay chance to win bisan 100 pana ka tickets imong gihulog?

    *How about is SM magpa raffle nya imong ticket gi fill upon didto nimo gihulog sa AYALA? Naa bay evil imong nabuhat? Wala. But you miss to obey the rules.

    Tingali dili dautan ang imong mga binuhatan bro, but we're talking about the promise of Eternal Life by Jesus Christ. Dili jud ka makasabot aning mga butanga bisan third eye nabuka pa kay para nimo IMPERSONAL imong Ginoo.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-14-2012 at 01:52 AM.

  3. #1663

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    i've had my share in ups and downs jovs...some are really faith-shaking...
    jovs, for me...i have found my truth and that is with Jesus Christ..
    like you, i am also happy with this life, though lisud ang life but i know Jesus will never abandon me...
    not in the sense that i will not face troubles in this life...i know i will...
    but as what Jesus said, take heart i have overcome the world...
    as a Christian i know this world is passing, so i set my hopes in the afterlife..
    as what Jesus said, we should store riches in heaven.
    that is mu truth jovs..
    how would you reconcile the differences sa atong personal tuth?

    for you, you are a soul nothing more..and you can attain salvation by igniting the Christ in you

    for me, i am a soul but i also have a body and spirit. i can attain salvation by faith in Jesus
    and by that faith i can overcome the pleasures of the flesh and spiritual lust by letting God's spirit dewll in me.

    for you , you can save yourself in the awakening of your truth
    for me, i'm saved by the grace of God through Jesus' sacrifice
    and by grace i would claim the salvation He purchased for me on the cross

    we both believe God is Love
    for you, you need to spend an entire life practicing,meditating in hope to reach a spiritual awakening
    through reaching "Christhood" however if failed to do so in this life..
    will have to go back from scrath and relearn the whole process till reach perfection through reincarnation.
    for me, i will never be Christ,i am far from it..i can never save myself
    so i need a savior..and that savior is Jesus...my soul was bound to die because of sin
    but Jesus became sin and died for me so my soul can live...
    The glory belongs to Christ alone, i only share with it..

    for you reincarnation is God's way of showing His Love for His children..
    for me, God sent Jesus His only Son, so we sons of men through Jesus will become children of God.

    how would you reconcile the difference jovs?
    why is it that i am suppose to be wrong and you are right?
    Very convincing bro! thanks.
    YES! and the unique aspect between the GOD of Christianity from the rest is His attribute of LOVE. All other religions/beliefs are trying to search/find GOD in their own ways/efforts. But the God of the Bible reach us out from heaven down to earth in order to be understood by men. Died on the cross to redeem us from the cruelty/heinousness of sin/evil.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-13-2012 at 04:33 PM.

  4. #1664

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    wala na naglabang labang bro. usa ra ang Ginoo, usa ra pud ang source sa teachings. lain lain ang messengers sa lain lain nga region ug panahon. Sa panahon ni Buddha, mao ni ang teachings, sa panahon ni Abraham mao gihapon, sa panahon ni Moses, mao gihapon same David, Muhammad, Jesus, pareha ra na sila ug teachings. ug nganong nalahi ky tungod na sa mga tao ra pud, using the brain, without proper teaching and guidance by a teacher. so naglahi lahi gyud sa religion but sa mga schools pareha ra. maski asa ka, mahimo seguro lahi ang mga terms pero pareha ra ug pagsabot. Lahi lahi ang name sa God para masabtan sa brain ug physical body. Jesus called God Father, Muhammad Allah, Zoroaster Ahura Mazda, ug daghan pa.

    Ang ako bro dili na pagtoo lng. Pagsabot gyud, niagi ug teachings/lectures, gi test, gi pa experiment, so proven sa akong self, so it is not a belief. Cheers bro!! nag abri ko smb.
    Bro jovs, di ko motuo kung usa ug pareha ra ba ang ilang ginoo nga gituohan. God is not the GOD of confusion. Satan and his demons maoy nag create ug confusion! adto sa hinduism bro kung makaingon ba ka nga the God of Love and order ang nag influence sa ilaha. example oh:



    The 3 Abrahamic great religions (judaism, christianity, islam) believed in a PERSONAL GOD.
    Imong impersonal god is derived from buddhism....unsaon man nimo paglink ana nga makaingon ta nga parehas ra?

  5. #1665

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    first, we were perfect spiritual beings and lived in the Kingdom of God which is the spiritual world, but bec we rebelled against God, we were banished to earth. It's up to the individual to re-purify his true self and go back to God and be accepted again in the Kingdom of God. There are so many ways to go back to God's Kingdom, some straight paths, some longer paths, some have dead ends and fake paths. Kung sipyat ug select sa path after you reached the dead end, there is always another time to go back and select a new path until the correct path is selected.

  6. #1666

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok ra lagi na bro. bisag unsa pa inyong ibanat nako, wala ra, deadma ra na. the soul is not affected with that. dili na storya storya lng, tinood gyud na. i am no one and i am nothing physically.
    I appreciate bro and dili lang ikaw ang naay conviction about humility and forgiveness, self denial...naay daghan sa mga Christians.

  7. #1667

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Bro jovs, di ko motuo kung usa ug pareha ra ba ang ilang ginoo nga gituohan. God is not the GOD of confusion. Satan and his demons maoy nag create ug confusion! adto sa hinduism bro kung makaingon ba ka nga the God of Love and order ang nag influence sa ilaha. example oh:



    The 3 Abrahamic great religions (judaism, christianity, islam) believed in a PERSONAL GOD.
    Imong impersonal god is derived from buddhism....unsaon man nimo paglink ana nga makaingon ta nga parehas ra?
    ok lng na bro, na prove naman nako personally that God is impersonal. It is not a belief, it is proven by myself as taught to me by my teacher. dili ra man pud ako, naa man pud lain on this earthly plane. We know that God, Christ, soul, and satan are all impersonal. If for you have proven to yourself that God is personal, then i respect that. I hope you will find light in your religion that can show you the right path and light your way back to the Kingdom of God.

  8. #1668

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovs
    bro, i really appreciate sa imong broad knowledge about your belief and what i can share also is try to experience the power of the Holy Spirit sa imong kinabuhi. Surely, God will give you a different set of eyes to understand reality.

    Lisud man bro imong tugkaron sad ang fullness sa ginoo using that pea-sized module in your brain (pineal gland). Moingon ka kabalo ka sa creation, reincarnation, etc. dili man gani ka maka explain tingali how can a single drop of sperm nahimong complex rational being.

    The very purpose of your existence as a man imong gi skip kay imong gusto magkiglevel/unite imong soul sa ginoo. Deal with the physical reality bro ayaw ilara imong self that your physical existence is only an illusion.

    My question:
    1) Does your impersonal God has a will and intellect? Describe his way of creation.
    2) Do you believe that we are created for a purpose and not only floating in the vast ocean of space?

    Same with you, we christians also believed in a universal law as well as the moral law. How could you explain the impersonal God's ability to give laws if he doesnt have a will? if you agree naa syay will, therefore he is PERSONAL.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-14-2012 at 01:58 AM.

  9. #1669

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    first, we were perfect spiritual beings and lived in the Kingdom of God which is the spiritual world, but bec we rebelled against God, we were banished to earth. It's up to the individual to re-purify his true self and go back to God and be accepted again in the Kingdom of God. There are so many ways to go back to God's Kingdom, some straight paths, some longer paths, some have dead ends and fake paths. Kung sipyat ug select sa path after you reached the dead end, there is always another time to go back and select a new path until the correct path is selected.
    i respect you bro. but have you considered God's offer in His Son? dili na jud ta maglabad ang ulo bro coz he already paid the price. Just try to listen to his invitation and find rest in Him.

    Sa imo pang statement bro, grabe kadako sa ginoo ug kita mura lang ug dust sa iyaha, how much more sa atong utok.....yes, sakto ka bro ug samot na jud kung ang imong gamiton ang pineal gland which is a pea-size in your brain to understand the fullness of God. Do you think na-grasp na nimo?

    In buddhism you pay, pay, pay (law of karma) in order to attain perfection. But in Christianity bro, Christ offers forgiveness. There's no need for you neglect yourself, detached from physical reality, no ego/desires....all that is required is obedience in him to find life's fulfillment and salvation.

    Jesus Christ is the perfection of God's will bro. He already paid it all. Ayaw na liboga imong kaugalingon pagtugkad sa kinatibuk-an sa ginoo coz youll be a loser in the end if the BIBLE is true!

  10. #1670

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok lng na bro, na prove naman nako personally that God is impersonal. It is not a belief, it is proven by myself as taught to me by my teacher. dili ra man pud ako, naa man pud lain on this earthly plane. We know that God, Christ, soul, and satan are all impersonal. If for you have proven to yourself that God is personal, then i respect that. I hope you will find light in your religion that can show you the right path and light your way back to the Kingdom of God.
    Thanks also for sharing bro. Daghan ko nalearn sad sa imoha. But my faith in Jesus Christ is unmoveable...i personally accept that i am willing to offer my life for His glory. For I am very convinced that he as the author of life and can restore the same for God's purpose.

    Ive been through life's ups and downs and gotten almost to the point of suicide, but i found Jesus' words and invitation fulfilling and had brought relief to my wretched soul. Just like bro @noys testimony....we are saved by God's grace through our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    There's NO ONE in history who promised like Jesus Christ did. And He backed it up through His Resurrection.

    John 14:19
    Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I AM the way, truth and the LIFE....

    yes, padayon ta on what we believed to be true.

    blessings bro!
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-14-2012 at 02:01 AM.

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