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  1. #1611

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    So jovi, you're basically saying that the sould can understand God but the body cannot?
    yes, only the soul ug wala nai lain pa. only the soul can explore God, can have full knowledge about God.

  2. #1612

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    So jovi, you're basically saying that the sould can understand God but the body cannot?
    murag mao jud nay iyang pasabut bai..the body conflicts with the soul...
    but i think this is not something new to Christians..

    diba, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak...

    lahi lang pud ang interpretation ni jovi..

  3. #1613

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    dong jovi ayaw tawon kalimti tong listahan nimo ha

  4. #1614

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    so hatagi kuno list ug records ana imong gipangyawyaw...kanang gikan gyud sauna pa
    confidential na bro, but kung imong tan-awon sa bible, gikan na ni Abraham, but naa pa before ni Abraham, pero confidential na. gikan sa pinaka una nga teacher, nga naa sa bible hangtud naabot sa mga disciples ni Jesus, unya wala na pud na record sa bible, hangtud naabot karon sa mga present teachers around the world, unya ang mga current students, once fully developed na and performed all the experiments, and naka pass na sa tanang tests, mahimo na pud ng mga teachers then mo accept na pud ug mga students. ang duol ni Jesus, sunod gyud, ky Zachariah, then John the Baptist, then Jesus, then mga disciples ni Jesus

  5. #1615

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    yes, only the soul ug wala nai lain pa. only the soul can explore God, can have full knowledge about God.
    Ok so your God is a finite God. Fine then. Next question. Duha d.i ang consciousness sa tao?

  6. #1616

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    confidential na bro, but kung imong tan-awon sa bible, gikan na ni Abraham, but naa pa before ni Abraham, pero confidential na. gikan sa pinaka una nga teacher, nga naa sa bible hangtud naabot sa mga disciples ni Jesus, unya wala na pud na record sa bible, hangtud naabot karon sa mga present teachers around the world, unya ang mga current students, once fully developed na and performed all the experiments, and naka pass na sa tanang tests, mahimo na pud ng mga teachers then mo accept na pud ug mga students. ang duol ni Jesus, sunod gyud, ky Zachariah, then John the Baptist, then Jesus, then mga disciples ni Jesus
    nya tua na sad na abot na sad tas sekret ug confidencial, unsaon namo pag prove nga tinood ni imo statement ug wa kay supporting docs. wala lang mo engon lang mi nga tinood ni...mahulog ra sad nag belief...pag sure oi

  7. #1617

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    gi snab man ni jovi akong proof nga gi request...hehehehe...ok ra na jovs..
    secret raman gihapun kay di ko kasabut diba? hahahaha...i'm beginning to think that if the God you say you believe is really a Loving One..why would he keep such teachings for salvation and reveal it to
    the worthy ones or shall i say the Christened ones only..kaluoy pud sa uban nga dili worthy...or kadtong wa kasabut sa secret hidden in plain sight...kung sa buddhism pa...murag see you in next life nalang pud ta ani...balik2x hangtud makat.on hangtud maka access sa seret teachings...does that really show an ALL- Loving act?

    kuyaw lang ug sa atong next life tungod kay wa ta kasabut sa secret teachings...mahimu tang arabo nga bayot..hahahaha...tsk2x...where is the Love of God aning dapita?

    unlike sa bible...klaro kaau ug unsay angay buhaton para maluwas..maski pag klaro na kaayo...Lisud man gani buhaton...unsa pa kaha nang secret diba?
    Last edited by noy; 12-12-2012 at 10:46 PM.

  8. #1618

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    salamat sa pag share jovs,
    but i think what you shared is just a POV..usa ra sa daghan nga interpretasyon sa scripture.
    pwede ka makashare ug unsay imung proof sa imung gisulti? i know na prove na na nimu sa imung self..
    pero mas maayo ug maka share pud ka diri...
    kay ako ig imu kong pangutan.on nganu Christian ko...maka share man ko ug proof nga tinuod ang Christianity...
    only lang di tanan mudawat ana as proof...but it's ok like you and everybody else..we are entitled with a POV.
    care to share your proofs?
    the only proof gyud ana bro is to do it yourself ra gyud, wala gyud lain. di man gud na pang physical ang mga proof ana. not unless mag storya ta diri, piyong ta tanan, meditate ta tanan, nya puro nata soul, nya while nagpiyong ta moingon ko nimo diara bro ang akong proof hehehe. usa pud bro, once soul naka dili na ka mangita ug proof. ky makabalo naman ka. you can even try it, concentrate ka sa goodness inside nimo you are activating your soul, mura ka ug nag-ila ila sa imong real self, hangtud makaila naka, soul na dayon ka.

    i will share it with you bro, kani siya you are trying to know your true self which is perfect goodness, your soul. dili ni siya conflict sa imong pagka Christian, and don't worry about evil nga musulod ky you are protected by your soul which is of God and God mismo bec you are a son of God. then dili na tinood ang mga engkanto ug mga agta, dwende. Ang imong buhaton is to pause your physical activity so you can concentrate on your true being. Meditation ni bro. First ngita ka ug hilom nga lugar nga comfortable ka, lingkod ka nga comfortable. then close your eyes, then silently or ganahan ka pwede pud aloud, pray to God that you will be guided with your meditation. Pray also to Jesus then say Amen afterwards. Then while close imong eyes, concentrate ka sa imong being, as a whole nga ikaw. Then feel Happiness, malipayon ka bro, think of the Happiness of your life but what you will have feelings lng nga happy kaayo ka. Then feel Love bro, as if ganahan nimo gakson imong self unya feel love. important nga nag feel gyud ka. then feel ka ug Peace, malinawon, kalinaw. then compassion ug kindness. Important gyud ang feelings, usahay 5 min lng ni, usahay maganahan ka ug maayo maabot ug 10min. depende ra gyud nimo. then imong kalimtan imong mga feelings pero close gihapon imong eyes, nya blank lng. then mga 1 min pray ka ni God ug Jesus, pasalamat ka. unya imong ibuka imong mga mata. try this bro, nindot kaayo imong pamati inig kahuman. pwede nimo kadaghanon, before tulog, after mata, break sa office. Then padayon ka sa imong religion. Don't change religion. Nya wala ni conflict sa imong religion.

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    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    gi snab man ni jovi akong proof nga gi request...hehehehe...ok ra na jovs..
    secret raman gihapun kay di ko kasabut diba? hahahaha...i'm beginning to think that if the God you say you believe is really a Loving One..why would he keep such teachings for salvation and reveal it to
    the worthy ones or shall i say the Christened ones..kaluoy pud sa uban nga dili worthy...or kadtong wa kasabut sa secret hidden in plain sight...kung sa buddhism pa...murag see you in next life nalang pud ta ani...balik2x hangtud makat.on hangtud maka access sa seret teachings...does that really show an ALL- Loving act?
    His god is impersonal so don't expect it's a loving god. Based on his answers his god is a finite god incapable of reason and feeling any emotion.

  10. #1620

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    the only proof gyud ana bro is to do it yourself ra gyud, wala gyud lain. di man gud na pang physical ang mga proof ana. not unless mag storya ta diri, piyong ta tanan, meditate ta tanan, nya puro nata soul, nya while nagpiyong ta moingon ko nimo diara bro ang akong proof hehehe. usa pud bro, once soul naka dili na ka mangita ug proof. ky makabalo naman ka. you can even try it, concentrate ka sa goodness inside nimo you are activating your soul, mura ka ug nag-ila ila sa imong real self, hangtud makaila naka, soul na dayon ka.

    i will share it with you bro, kani siya you are trying to know your true self which is perfect goodness, your soul. dili ni siya conflict sa imong pagka Christian, and don't worry about evil nga musulod ky you are protected by your soul which is of God and God mismo bec you are a son of God. then dili na tinood ang mga engkanto ug mga agta, dwende. Ang imong buhaton is to pause your physical activity so you can concentrate on your true being. Meditation ni bro. First ngita ka ug hilom nga lugar nga comfortable ka, lingkod ka nga comfortable. then close your eyes, then silently or ganahan ka pwede pud aloud, pray to God that you will be guided with your meditation. Pray also to Jesus then say Amen afterwards. Then while close imong eyes, concentrate ka sa imong being, as a whole nga ikaw. Then feel Happiness, malipayon ka bro, think of the Happiness of your life but what you will have feelings lng nga happy kaayo ka. Then feel Love bro, as if ganahan nimo gakson imong self unya feel love. important nga nag feel gyud ka. then feel ka ug Peace, malinawon, kalinaw. then compassion ug kindness. Important gyud ang feelings, usahay 5 min lng ni, usahay maganahan ka ug maayo maabot ug 10min. depende ra gyud nimo. then imong kalimtan imong mga feelings pero close gihapon imong eyes, nya blank lng. then mga 1 min pray ka ni God ug Jesus, pasalamat ka. unya imong ibuka imong mga mata. try this bro, nindot kaayo imong pamati inig kahuman. pwede nimo kadaghanon, before tulog, after mata, break sa office. Then padayon ka sa imong religion. Don't change religion. Nya wala ni conflict sa imong religion.
    unsa may angay itawag ana Jovi dba na illusion or hallucination...pastilan mura kag nad tudlo namo ug kulto...ika duha dba student ra ka? wala kay authority to teach..

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