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  1. #1601

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    pero kahibaw siya sa creation break, plus reincarnation nilang rizal, thomas edison...etc...kadto gipang mention ni slab..
    di guro na pang beginners nga knowledge break...hehehehe
    Mao bitaw bro nga gihagad nato ug pashare ni jovs diri kay kaayuhan man kuno sa katawhan. Kay kung naay something occult/pagan in nature mao nay lisud. Id rather believe/stick to the bible and the words of Jesus nga dili jud matugkad sa taw ang kinatibuk-an sa atong existence. Mao nga iyang gi-simplify ang kaluwasan. He made it easier for us.

  2. #1602

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    pero kahibaw siya sa creation break, plus reincarnation nilang rizal, thomas edison...etc...kadto gipang mention ni slab..
    di guro na pang beginners nga knowledge break...hehehehe
    mao pero sa akong past life ug reincarnation wlaa siya kahibaw nga mas duol ra man unta mig time frame ug lugar

  3. #1603

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    jovs, curious lang bai, what are the things that a soul like yourself can do?

    ako i believe i have a soul, Christ gave me the gift of salvation through his death so my soul have a chance to live with God.
    so i must take care of His gift of salvation by aligning my body and spirit with God's will not to waste His sacrifice.
    (at least this is my understanding about how a soul works...it is our soul that goes back to God or otherwise on jedgement day)

    so what does a soul do jovs? and if Christ is a certain level of enlightenment not a person...
    unsa naka nga level karun?
    ang soul bro, tipak na siya ni God, it is of God. same properties of God except sa size, so it is the only tool that can understand God. Ang soul ra ang makaila ug makabalo about God, about Christ, ug daghan pa. remember the quote about drop and the ocean? the drop is the soul while the ocean is God. once the drop is in the Ocean, it can freely explore the Ocean ky same properties. this is just an example, the exploration could be 1 sq m area, then increase to 10 sq m, and so on until the drop explores the whole ocean then it knows everything about the whole ocean. so sa soul, it will explore God ang term ana niya is consciousness, slowly expanding consciousness until it explores the whole of God, then the soul can know everything about God, the soul doesn't know yet how big God is until he can explore everything. but knowing the properties of the soul will know also the properties God bec they have the same properties except that waiting to explore the totality. Just like the drop, we know it is liquid and so is the ocean.

    When you are changing bro from being bad to being good, it is not about religion. it is the working of your soul. a soul does not have a religion, you are your soul, and there is no harmony inside you bec your brain want to be the captain of your life while the real captain, the real you is just idle at the side, so what happened there is no proper guidance, creating a mess, so you do evil. ang imong brain, imong human mind gusto mang mo bida, so mura bitaw ug ako ang hari diri, i can do whatever i want, even if it is evil i have the power to do it. but your soul have won bro, nalupig niya imong brain. but sometimes, bantay bantay ka ky mangita gyud na siya ug paagi nga siya ang hari sa imong life, nya makabuhat napud ka ug dili maayo. ang imong ka maayo from being bad, gamitan na ug reasoning kunuhay sa imong brain, naay reasons nganong nabuutan ka, naay reasons nganong na bad ka sauna. but sa tinood, ang imong soul is of God, God is perfect goodness, God is good all the time and so is your soul. Once makabalo ka nga soul ka, wala nay reasoning, perfect goodness na. kabalo naka nga buutan gyud diay ka. dili na important nimo imong body, imong ego, imong desires, unya God na lng dayon ka tanan. but ang imong body, makabalo ka nga mao na imong tool para ma expand nimo ang consciousness sa imong soul, pero take note, tool na lng siya nimo ug dili na ikaw.

    same with the soul bro exploring God by expanding its consciousness, also with Christ, gamay gamay lng sa God. so i cannot say asa nako karon adto ra mahibaw-an kung mahuman na gyud tanan ug explore, you cannot tell the size unless you have expand the consciouness to the totality of the Christ.

  4. #1604

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    motransform nasad ni si brod @jovs ug laing incarnation ron.
    hehehehe....ice breaker ra bro ha?>

    bitaw bro @jovs.....lahi2 jud atong belief about Truth. That's good kay duna sad kay guts to say that False among Christianity nya ikaw maoy insakto. While Jesus Christ claims that HE is THE WAY, TRUTH and THE LIFE.....NO MAN comes to the FATHER but through Him.

    Kinsa may among tuohan ninyong duha?

  5. #1605

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    nakahibaw man lage ka atong mga karaan nga tawo sila edison rizal, moses unsa nako nga dug-ol ra gani ta di a ka tugkad....pantasya ra man na imo gipanulti jovi...kana moy klarong ilosyon.
    pantasya to the brain but not to the soul. kahibaw ko ky same teachings ra man. they are listed on the past students and teachers that had excellent records. murag ikaw ba, kung valedictorian ka pag highschool nimo, naay record inyong school ilado ka sa skwelehan maski 100 years in the future

  6. #1606

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ang soul bro, tipak na siya ni God, it is of God. same properties of God except sa size, so it is the only tool that can understand God. Ang soul ra ang makaila ug makabalo about God, about Christ, ug daghan pa. remember the quote about drop and the ocean? the drop is the soul while the ocean is God. once the drop is in the Ocean, it can freely explore the Ocean ky same properties. this is just an example, the exploration could be 1 sq m area, then increase to 10 sq m, and so on until the drop explores the whole ocean then it knows everything about the whole ocean. so sa soul, it will explore God ang term ana niya is consciousness, slowly expanding consciousness until it explores the whole of God, then the soul can know everything about God, the soul doesn't know yet how big God is until he can explore everything. but knowing the properties of the soul will know also the properties God bec they have the same properties except that waiting to explore the totality. Just like the drop, we know it is liquid and so is the ocean.

    When you are changing bro from being bad to being good, it is not about religion. it is the working of your soul. a soul does not have a religion, you are your soul, and there is no harmony inside you bec your brain want to be the captain of your life while the real captain, the real you is just idle at the side, so what happened there is no proper guidance, creating a mess, so you do evil. ang imong brain, imong human mind gusto mang mo bida, so mura bitaw ug ako ang hari diri, i can do whatever i want, even if it is evil i have the power to do it. but your soul have won bro, nalupig niya imong brain. but sometimes, bantay bantay ka ky mangita gyud na siya ug paagi nga siya ang hari sa imong life, nya makabuhat napud ka ug dili maayo. ang imong ka maayo from being bad, gamitan na ug reasoning kunuhay sa imong brain, naay reasons nganong nabuutan ka, naay reasons nganong na bad ka sauna. but sa tinood, ang imong soul is of God, God is perfect goodness, God is good all the time and so is your soul. Once makabalo ka nga soul ka, wala nay reasoning, perfect goodness na. kabalo naka nga buutan gyud diay ka. dili na important nimo imong body, imong ego, imong desires, unya God na lng dayon ka tanan. but ang imong body, makabalo ka nga mao na imong tool para ma expand nimo ang consciousness sa imong soul, pero take note, tool na lng siya nimo ug dili na ikaw.

    same with the soul bro exploring God by expanding its consciousness, also with Christ, gamay gamay lng sa God. so i cannot say asa nako karon adto ra mahibaw-an kung mahuman na gyud tanan ug explore, you cannot tell the size unless you have expand the consciouness to the totality of the Christ.
    salamat sa pag share jovs,
    but i think what you shared is just a POV..usa ra sa daghan nga interpretasyon sa scripture.
    pwede ka makashare ug unsay imung proof sa imung gisulti? i know na prove na na nimu sa imung self..
    pero mas maayo ug maka share pud ka diri...
    kay ako ig imu kong pangutan.on nganu Christian ko...maka share man ko ug proof nga tinuod ang Christianity...
    only lang di tanan mudawat ana as proof...but it's ok like you and everybody else..we are entitled with a POV.
    care to share your proofs?

  7. #1607

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    pantasya to the brain but not to the soul. kahibaw ko ky same teachings ra man. they are listed on the past students and teachers that had excellent records. murag ikaw ba, kung valedictorian ka pag highschool nimo, naay record inyong school ilado ka sa skwelehan maski 100 years in the future
    so hatagi kuno list ug records ana imong gipangyawyaw...kanang gikan gyud sauna pa

  8. #1608

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    ang scientists nga gagmay sad ug utok bro naabot na ang huna2 sa multiverse....ambot lang unsay pasabot ana! Unsa kahang portion sa ilang brain nga gigamit bro nga naka come-up man sila ana nga idea? gigamitan sad tingali na nilag soul bro no?

    So natugkad na nimo ang fullness sa ginoo kay soul naman jud kaha ka?
    ang scientists bro, bisan mugamit pa na sila ug pinaka sophisticated nga microscope to see the tiniest bacteria ug mugamit ug pinakalayo nga long range nga telescope ang ilang gigamit ug tan-aw ky ilaha gihapong mata. so di gyud na pwede gamiton para sa God. kung imo pung tan-awon, asa ra kutob ang naabtan nga completely na explore sa tawo sa atong mga heavenly bodies, limited ra kaayo. naay mga scientists nga mga souls na. what they were doing is trying to interpret what their souls had known to bring it to the physical world for humanity. gamitan dili ug practical application para pud mo benefit ang humanity.

    naa koi gi explain ni bro noy bro, pls lng ug basa naa didto.

  9. #1609

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ang soul bro, tipak na siya ni God, it is of God. same properties of God except sa size, so it is the only tool that can understand God. Ang soul ra ang makaila ug makabalo about God, about Christ, ug daghan pa. remember the quote about drop and the ocean? the drop is the soul while the ocean is God. once the drop is in the Ocean, it can freely explore the Ocean ky same properties. this is just an example, the exploration could be 1 sq m area, then increase to 10 sq m, and so on until the drop explores the whole ocean then it knows everything about the whole ocean. so sa soul, it will explore God ang term ana niya is consciousness, slowly expanding consciousness until it explores the whole of God, then the soul can know everything about God, the soul doesn't know yet how big God is until he can explore everything. but knowing the properties of the soul will know also the properties God bec they have the same properties except that waiting to explore the totality. Just like the drop, we know it is liquid and so is the ocean.

    When you are changing bro from being bad to being good, it is not about religion. it is the working of your soul. a soul does not have a religion, you are your soul, and there is no harmony inside you bec your brain want to be the captain of your life while the real captain, the real you is just idle at the side, so what happened there is no proper guidance, creating a mess, so you do evil. ang imong brain, imong human mind gusto mang mo bida, so mura bitaw ug ako ang hari diri, i can do whatever i want, even if it is evil i have the power to do it. but your soul have won bro, nalupig niya imong brain. but sometimes, bantay bantay ka ky mangita gyud na siya ug paagi nga siya ang hari sa imong life, nya makabuhat napud ka ug dili maayo. ang imong ka maayo from being bad, gamitan na ug reasoning kunuhay sa imong brain, naay reasons nganong nabuutan ka, naay reasons nganong na bad ka sauna. but sa tinood, ang imong soul is of God, God is perfect goodness, God is good all the time and so is your soul. Once makabalo ka nga soul ka, wala nay reasoning, perfect goodness na. kabalo naka nga buutan gyud diay ka. dili na important nimo imong body, imong ego, imong desires, unya God na lng dayon ka tanan. but ang imong body, makabalo ka nga mao na imong tool para ma expand nimo ang consciousness sa imong soul, pero take note, tool na lng siya nimo ug dili na ikaw.

    same with the soul bro exploring God by expanding its consciousness, also with Christ, gamay gamay lng sa God. so i cannot say asa nako karon adto ra mahibaw-an kung mahuman na gyud tanan ug explore, you cannot tell the size unless you have expand the consciouness to the totality of the Christ.
    So jovi, you're basically saying that the sould can understand God but the body cannot?

  10. #1610

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    motransform nasad ni si brod @jovs ug laing incarnation ron.
    hehehehe....ice breaker ra bro ha?>

    bitaw bro @jovs.....lahi2 jud atong belief about Truth. That's good kay duna sad kay guts to say that False among Christianity nya ikaw maoy insakto. While Jesus Christ claims that HE is THE WAY, TRUTH and THE LIFE.....NO MAN comes to the FATHER but through Him.

    Kinsa may among tuohan ninyong duha?
    kung soul ka bro, makabalo ka nga soul pud si Jesus, makabalo ka nga when Jesus is referring to his self, he is actually talking about his soul. His soul is of Christ. ang iyang gi refer ato ang Christ niya ug dili ang iyang body, ang iyang soul nga Christ na. unya tinood na, only through the Father is Christ. unya sa sige nako basa sa inyong bible, nakasabot ko nga ang tawag ni Jesus sa God is Father, bec of the Christ in him. Ang Father is the same God as Allah, Yahweh, ug uban pang name but referring to the same God.

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