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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    para nko we should give them what they need brod, not what they want..
    Is this a scientific principles? kindly explain daw...

    If naa mga bata nidako nga maayu bisag giahatagan sa ilang ginakanan sa ilang wants, dili na tinuod ni nga principles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Wala ko data pero mao ako na observe...
    Naa sad ka data nga ni improve ang batasan sa mga tawo karun nga nagdako sa science compare sa una?
    Pero if para nimu mas butoan ang mga bata run compare sa una tungod sa Science, aws imuha sad na...
    murag wa man siguro koy gi mention nga ni improve ba bro.. ikaw rmay ni assume cguro nga ni deteriorate ang batasan sa mga bata, ambot ug asa ka nkakuha ana, kalain sad ug mao na imong huna2 sa mga bata nto kron..

    Wake Up bro, sa realidad sa kalibutan karun, Daghan ginikanan nag antos pagpadako sa ilang mga anak. Dili ikaw pero daghan. Ang Point ana is, unsay scientific explanation why nag antos an uban ginikanan para lan mapadako ang ilang mga anak. OR para mu uyon ka, Unsay scientific explanation nganu ang Ginikanan mag Sacrifice man para sa ilang anak?
    Bro hagbay ra kong gamata, sayop lang akong interpretasyon sa imong nakit-an.. kong naa man gani nag-antos tungod na kay dili sila preparado financially o psychologically o morally bro.. ang parenthood dili na mura'g takyan nga sayon ra kat-unon,. kong nag huna2 jud ka sa wellfare sa imong mga anak maningkamot ka nga mapadako nimo sila nga tarong nga paagi..

    Altruism bro, you can read it sa libro nga Selfish Gene, naa didtoy scientific explanation nga imong gipangita, ug daghan pa.. basaha lang unya kong naa kay oras..

    Logic based on what? Where man na gibase an Logic sa tawo?
    di ko sure anang logic sa Hayop dah
    based on human parental instinct..

    Aws, abi nko science ang basehan sa imung belief, atung gihisgutan diri is about BIBLE man ug sa iyang teachings...Which musupak mu tingod sa Science.. Naa diay lain nimu gibasehan?

    Naghisgot kag Morality, unsay example sa Morals nga gihatag sa Science nga wala sa Bibliya?
    you seem to have avoided my question completely.. usbon lang nko'g pangutana.. ktong Conquest of Canaan ni Joshua wherein he was ordered by God to kill the Canaanites and six other nations including it's women and children, was it moral? if so unsa man nga lesson o morality atong makuha ato nga story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Is this a scientific principles? kindly explain daw...

    If naa mga bata nidako nga maayu bisag giahatagan sa ilang ginakanan sa ilang wants, dili na tinuod ni nga principles?
    bro kong nakabasa ka about Child Development and other books about parenthood, or ug sakto ka nga parent mka huna2 ka ana bro,..

    bro you can use their wants to give them their need, example kong ang bata mangayo ug candy, pwede nimo ingnon nga mag toothbrush nig human or dapat mamilo sa siya or naa siyay chore nga buhaton before nimo siya tagaan, kanang mga condition nimo mao na ang ilang needs, which dili nila ma perceive kay bata paman sila, ikaw kay parent man ka kabaw ka nga kinahanglanon na nila para modako sila nga maayo.. kong imong tagaan ang bata sa ilang wants pirme without asserting anything good in return mao nay mka spoil sa bata,. gets?.. or if you are just asking that to find fault in my reasoning then wa koy ikatubag nimo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred1981 View Post
    aw oo kana sakto imong pasabot pud!hehehe. kana diay ang "want" ang akong pasabot pud nga dili ihatag. kana noung "need" angay na gyud na ihatag oie. pero lahi2x man pud perception ang mga parents if "need" bana sa ilang anak or "wants" lang!hahaha. (d japon maghuman)!

    anyway sir, if you don't mind, what do you believe in, sir xian120? science, gospels, enlightenment? or etc...?
    mao jud depende rjud sad na sa mentality sa mga parents sad kong gi unsa na nila pag differentiate kanang duha, that's why para nko ang parenthood is lisod jud, but naay uban nga maayo jud mopadako ug bata, bisan pag walay knowledge about CHild Development..

    despite what some like to think about what i think, ambot ug nganong ila jud i assert nga science nlang jud akong gituohan, hahaha, its such a pity,.. ako i take everything that i find applicable for me, science yes the tested ones and some theories, bible yes some of its Philosophical ideas, psychology yes some of it, philosophy some of it, ug daghan pa.. select and collect rman jud ta, kong unsa atong mga principles karon accumulation na sa mga principles and knowledge nga atong na gather ug gipili as we go on in this life. there's no specific foundation, lain2,.. but i like to think of myself as an atheist (if you like to comment me on that, feel free to do so, but di ta maghuman so ayaw nalang), 'coz i dont believe in deities, but in the case of my Philosophy and principles i like to attribute it to many fields..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    mao jud depende rjud sad na sa mentality sa mga parents sad kong gi unsa na nila pag differentiate kanang duha, that's why para nko ang parenthood is lisod jud, but naay uban nga maayo jud mopadako ug bata, bisan pag walay knowledge about CHild Development..

    despite what some like to think about what i think, ambot ug nganong ila jud i assert nga science nlang jud akong gituohan, hahaha, its such a pity,.. ako i take everything that i find applicable for me, science yes the tested ones and some theories, bible yes some of its Philosophical ideas, psychology yes some of it, philosophy some of it, ug daghan pa.. select and collect rman jud ta, kong unsa atong mga principles karon accumulation na sa mga principles and knowledge nga atong na gather ug gipili as we go on in this life. there's no specific foundation, lain2,.. but i like to think of myself as an atheist (if you like to comment me on that, feel free to do so, but di ta maghuman so ayaw nalang), 'coz i dont believe in deities, but in the case of my Philosophy and principles i like to attribute it to many fields..
    sir, dili gyud ko mu judge sa imuha and what u believe. as what ive said before, for me lang ha, dili man guro mu matter if what u believed in...what matters is that, with what u believe, it brings out the good in you and to those around you...meaning, nindut imong batasan bah. what are principles and laws anyway if you can't bring them to practice?

    ako, i believe in both...GOd and science...innate nature man sad gyud siguro na sa tao to really search for answers...spirituality can really be expressed in a lot of things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred1981 View Post
    sir, dili gyud ko mu judge sa imuha and what u believe. as what ive said before, for me lang ha, dili man guro mu matter if what u believed in...what matters is that, with what u believe, it brings out the good in you and to those around you...meaning, nindut imong batasan bah. what are principles and laws anyway if you can't bring them to practice?

    ako, i believe in both...GOd and science...innate nature man sad gyud siguro na sa tao to really search for answers...spirituality can really be expressed in a lot of things...
    Ya mao jud, we are never wrong in our own right if we chose to believe.. same ta kay para sad nko basta mag binuotan lang ta sakto nana.. hehe.. good for you,

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    Default Re: Biblical Fact: Who killed more people in the Bible

    @ xian - do u believe in noetic science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    that's Law of Karma bro. separate man tawon si God nato diri, wa man siya paki-alam nato ky gibutangan ta niya ug Laws. It will be our own advantage kung makabalo ta unsa na nga mga laws and then sundon nato. And destruction kung wa ta kabalo ug dili nato masunod. "Ignorance of the Law, excuses no one".

    Killing is evil. If there is a need for a Divine Intervention, it will always be good, for God is good all the time.
    I agree with God is always Good and because His goodness is infinite we question Him because our understanding about what goodness is has its limits.
    in generic ways, i would agree that killing is Evil but not necessarily death.

    God does not care but He is always good? God gave the laws but does not care about them?
    i am sure that you are just stating another interpretation and POV, by that i respect you bai jovski but
    i would have to disagree.

    i think Ignorance can sometimes pave way to exemption. kay kung muingun ka nga it excuses no one...if salvation,afterlife and God were real..impierno to tanang nangamatay nga walay know how bahin sa Ginoo..
    awareness of the Law but refuses it..excuses no one cguro jovski
    Last edited by noy; 11-23-2012 at 07:24 PM.

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    OT = @ Xian120 ug noy dri na sad mo nag abot? di lang q mag apil apil dri kay kansi q sa inyong nahibaw-an dri hehehe

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    OT. pirme mi mag abut ni xian bai,hinlabi na sa mga susama nga thread...usa na siya sa mga aetheist nga ganahan nako kaistorya
    and di man pud ni paswetohay diri..hehehe...after all, maskin guro ang pinakasweto nga tao..kuwangun ra gihapun ang nihibaw.an
    regarding the absolute truth..

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