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  1. #2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakagawasan View Post
    If possible mabuhi ang mga organism diha na mga planets, pwede ra sad maka-adopt ang tawo uy. Ang dakong pangutana diha, naa bay buhi na organism sa imo namention na planeta? Makita man nato ang evolution sa ubang hayop para sa pag-adopt sa iyang surroundings, same sad sa mga tawo.
    Di nalang ta maghisgot ug laing planeta, bisan sa ato nalang moon kung possible ba

    Part, ang discovery sa science naabot nalang sa laing galaxy and the outermost part of the universe, napay gitawag nilag multiverse......since the history of exploration of other lifeforms, wala pa jud nahatag nga evidence of a LIFE in other planets, instead all are speculations. Maghuwat pata ug million years just to prove the point of man's rebellion ngadto sa Ginoo?

    Think about our lifespan....antime pwede jud kuwaon atong kinabuhi. If we are wise enough, we shuold rather listen to what the word of God says than giving an ear to Satan's lies!!!
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-05-2012 at 01:57 PM.

  2. #2022

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Part, ang discovery sa science naabot nalang sa laing galaxy and the outermost part of the universe, napay gitawag nilag multiverse......since the history of exploration of other lifeforms, wala pa jud nahatag nga evidence of a LIFE in other planets, instead all are speculations. Maghuwat pata ug million years just to prove the point of man's rebellion ngadto sa Ginoo?

    Think about our lifespan....antime pwede jud kuwaon atong kinabuhi. If we are wise enough, we shuold rather listen to what the word of God says than giving an ear to Satan's lies!!!
    The same goes with plants and animals and the rest of the living organisms here on Earth. Mao siguro ang baboy ihawunon kay wala maminaw sa pulong sa Ginoo. Ang mga kahoy sa lasang gi-illegal logging kay nagpakabungol.

    Para lang nako noh? Hasol kaayo makiglantugi, can we exist in harmony? I have friends from different religions, we don't bother to question our beliefs/faith kung magtipon-tipon mi. Mas nindot/lingaw kung dili na matuki na topic. Para sa ako lang man sad ni, I don't have to question your faith and I don't have to defend mine.

  3. #2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakagawasan View Post
    The same goes with plants and animals and the rest of the living organisms here on Earth. Mao siguro ang baboy ihawunon kay wala maminaw sa pulong sa Ginoo. Ang mga kahoy sa lasang gi-illegal logging kay nagpakabungol.
    They are designed para kaunon sa taw part hehe. Dili man nato maparehas ang ubang creatures like animals sa atua kay lahi man ilang programming, nakakita naka ug baboy nga nanguyab or nanghagad ug date sa iyang naibgan?

    Para lang nako noh? Hasol kaayo makiglantugi, can we exist in harmony? I have friends from different religions, we don't bother to question our beliefs/faith kung magtipon-tipon mi. Mas nindot/lingaw kung dili na matuki na topic. Para sa ako lang man sad ni, I don't have to question your faith and I don't have to defend mine.
    I think walay problema ang topics like these....mas nindot gani kay daghan ta masabtan sad.
    It's very possible for humans to exist in harmony coz mao nah ang makaayo unta, pero ang problema part kay ni exist man gud tinuod ang evil which comes from Satan's influence.....dili jud ma deny nga naa sad magdisagree. Parehas gud if we are living in the middle east, nindot na inyong society kay naa moy harmony nya kalit lang mog dakdakan ug bomba, ma threatened gyud always ang harmony because of the existence of evil.

  4. #2024

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    I think there is no need to disprove christianity as in the first place, christianity has not yet been proven. why is religion so widespread? dig deep the political agenda behind it. the manipulation of the masses. how religion can be very useful to politicians. the struggle to power. it is one of the main reasons why religions can't be taken down.

    "kung asa to ang naga tapok, atoa ako". .... kinsa ang atoa? kamo nalang bahala mo tan-aw kung kinsa.
    Christianity has been proven,first of course by those who believed in it..logic,reasons and sciecne even confirms it...
    hence we see some aetheists convert to this faith...men of science and reason as how this word percieved...
    wouldn't you agree that one of the many reasons why we can't find the logic and reason in Christianity is perhaps...
    we have not reached the fullness of understanding about Logic and Reason yet?..i think no one ever has ever have...
    in this link you will see notable people(aetheists) converted to Christianity...
    List of converts to Christianity from atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    they must have at least seen something why they renounced aetheism...

    but this is also a fact, may not be true...but a fact(which means it's happening)
    that to those who do not believe, no reason or proof will ever be valid...
    'cause in the first place we are only looking for proof within the walls of our understanding about what proof is..

    religion and Christianity are 2 different things..
    a person can be religious without really following Christ..

    about Christianity being unproven, that is clearly relative.

    like i said in my earlier posts, the Hypocricy or any negativity in the Christian churches
    merely discredits how we call ourselves(Christians) but never
    Christianity.
    Last edited by noy; 11-05-2012 at 05:24 PM.

  5. #2025

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    That's why Atheist should Not try to question the Teachings in the Bible because they dont believe that there is God in the first place. They should try to do a lot of Experiments and Studies and Present a lot Physical and Scientific evidence that there is Really No God. And also, they should focus finding solution on How to convince People accepting their belief that is based on Limited Science.
    atheists for me should not focus on convincing people, ako personally i dont convince people, in fact my brother who is very religious was about to believe me sa akong mga gipanulti, but nahadlok ko para niya, ako siyang gi ingnan nga ayaw ug tuo dayon sa akong gipanulti, you should see the truth for yourself..

    although para nako nindot ang mag practice ug rational thinking but depende rajud na sa tawo kong unsaon na niya pag handle ang iyang knowledge ug belief, that's why maglagot ko if naa koy masugatan or maka istorya nga atheist nga arogante..

    Limited manjud na ang science brod, naa man jud mga butang nga di ma explain sa science,. but when you look at it mas daghan man ang di matubag sa religion.. and i think the burden of proof does not lie on those who do not believe, coz what is to prove if you dont believe in it in the first place?

  6. #2026

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Kung mao na imoha @devs, walay kalainan ang earth compared with the rest of the planets?
    Ibutang kag Mercury or Pluto mka adopt kaha ka? heehehe
    it has to have the same environment (more or less) that we have here on earth for human life to evolve and survive, otherwise bacteria ra ug mga extreme organisms ra ang mabuhi anang mga planetaha..

  7. #2027

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    atheists for me should not focus on convincing people, ako personally i dont convince people, in fact my brother who is very religious was about to believe me sa akong mga gipanulti, but nahadlok ko para niya, ako siyang gi ingnan nga ayaw ug tuo dayon sa akong gipanulti, you should see the truth for yourself..

    although para nako nindot ang mag practice ug rational thinking but depende rajud na sa tawo kong unsaon na niya pag handle ang iyang knowledge ug belief, that's why maglagot ko if naa koy masugatan or maka istorya nga atheist nga arogante..

    Limited manjud na ang science brod, naa man jud mga butang nga di ma explain sa science,. but when you look at it mas daghan man ang di matubag sa religion.. and i think the burden of proof does not lie on those who do not believe, coz what is to prove if you dont believe in it in the first place?
    i have deep respect with your stand bro and i think the aetheist community should think like you do...

    anyway i believe those who do not believe should actually carry the burden of proof bro...
    'cause long before aetheism came, the belief of a certain God or gods are already in place...
    technically we can associate it with how how science debunks a previously accepted theory
    replacing a new theory that disproves the older theory...
    if old theory was there is God then new theory comes in stating there is none...
    technically the new theory has to disprove the old one before it becomes accepted diba?

    regarding confusion in religion bai, i think just like in science pud...we ought to dig deeper before we abandon a certain theory..
    i know sometimes religion contradicts itself through its followers...but unfortunately it doesnt imply
    that it is really what that certain religion teaches..

    matud pang CS Lewis, Christianty if false is of no importance but if true...
    is of infinite importance...i question everyday pud bai...i seek to increase my faith every now and then...
    i fail most of the time...but i just can't mess up with the idea that if i choose to abandon this faith 'cause of these doubts and questions...what if God is real? i think it is more practical than concluding otherwise?

    bai, don't get me wrong ha...i respect your stand..i only contradict with your idea
    because that is of course the essence of this discussion.
    Last edited by noy; 11-05-2012 at 06:59 PM.

  8. #2028

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    i have deep respect with your stand bro and i think the aetheist community should think like you do...

    anyway i believe those who do not believe should actually carry the burden of proof bro...
    'cause long before aetheism came, the belief of a certain God or gods are already in place...
    technically we can associate it with how how science debunks a previously accepted theory
    replacing a new theory that disproves the older theory...
    if old theory was there is God then new theory comes in stating there is none...
    technically the new theory has to disprove the old one before it becomes accepted diba?

    regarding confusion in religion bai, i think just like in science pud...we ought to dig deeper before we abandon a certain theory..
    i know sometimes religion contradicts itself through its followers...but unfortunately it doesnt imply
    that it is really what that certain religion teaches..

    matud pang CS Lewis, Christianty if false is of no importance but if true...
    is of infinite importance...i question everyday pud bai...i seek to increase my faith every now and then...
    i fail most of the time...but i just can't mess up with the idea that if i choose to abandon this faith 'cause of these doubts and questions...what if God is real? i think it is more practical than concluding otherwise?

    bai, don't get me wrong ha...i respect your stand..i only contradict with your idea
    because that is of course the essence of this discussion.
    ask lng ko bro, kana si CS Lewis. kita na na siya ni God? Did God reveal to him na?

  9. #2029

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Not according to the Bible.

    Earth was created first But I believed that's because God planned to create Man.
    this might seem a longshot or OT but give me your thoughts...

    ngano earth man gibutang ang tawo? and not mars or any other planet?

  10. #2030

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Kung mao na imoha @devs, walay kalainan ang earth compared with the rest of the planets?
    Ibutang kag Mercury or Pluto mka adopt kaha ka? heehehe
    for me, yes... they're just planets.

    in my state right now i gonna need the right equipment to live in other planets.

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