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  1. #2001

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    sa ato pa bai, kahibaw jud ka sa detalye sa akong kinabuhi..giunsa pag kagot sa akong ngipun para lang mausab?pero wala gihapun ko mausab..sa ato pa naka hibaw ka sa details sa transformation sa akong kinabuhi from almost aetheist,100% Church hater to something very opposite? 'cause you seem to know more about myself more than i do..
    so are you saying that i would have to throw everything i went through to know that God really cares when you don't even know who i am?how my past looked like..you were not even there sa kadtong times nga pwede na ko mupatay ug tao nga mu istorya nako about church2x...tsktsktsk...mao nay giingun nga "easy for you to say"..
    wala ko nagsulti na kahibalo ko sa imong life story bai, ang akong ginapanghisgot diha is base sa imong story bai..
    klaro man kaayo bai. naayo ka tungod kay naay doctor,. nawala imong pagkaadik kay WILLING man ka... ang word na WILLING imong bantayan diha bai...

    so kung WILLING jud diay ang tao mabuhat og DAKO kaayo ang possibilities na mahitabo jud na iyang gusto bai.. ana lang kasimple ang kinabuhi bai,.. klaro man kaayo sa imong story bai, masking kinsa makabasa sa imong story na gipost makasulti man na tungod sa imong pagka WILLING mao nang natarong ka, og tungod sa DOCTOR mao naayo ka bai.... plain and simple ra na nga panghitabo bai...
    Quote Originally Posted by noy
    about the contradiction,i respect your opinion..but is there at least a posibility nga ning contradict para nimu 'cause there are things that you did not understand?
    nakasulti ko na nicontradict imong choice bai kay nipili ka sa Prayer og Hospital.. LOL
    kay according sa bible na imong gituohan nakabutang dd2 na PRAYER + FAITH ALONE is 100% matinuod, karon nganong molukso pa man ka sa hospital? LOL ... klaro man kaayo na bai nakabutang sa bible....


    btw, sa tan-aw nako murag hapit na ka makamata sa tinuod nong, ayaw lang kalain sa kinabuhi ha? ..

  2. #2002

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    i have to agree with the willingness though
    since you seem to know about life more than i do...hehehe...kay hapit naman kaha ko makamata...Lol

    question for you: sa tanan nimung gi istorya, of course para nimu mao jud nay sakto...
    but out from the records history,science and theology hold about the existence of God,
    with your idea and point of view about God, how many percent do you think nga sakto ka?

    you may wanna check the link that i posted kadtong list sa aetheists converts to christianity...
    you might find people there who are more reasonable,logical,and smarter than both of us...
    ever wondered what came across them to convert? unless they need your expertise as well...

    so again, how many percent are we talking?

  3. #2003

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    50% bai,.... kay open pud ko sa mga possibilities.... MGA ha, dili lang kay usa parihas anang sa bible kay kingkoy ra kaayo,...

  4. #2004

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    you just made it a hundred percent or at least 90-100% when you said kingkoy ang bible 'cause Christianity is largest faith sa tibuok kalibutan...

    in that case, out of all the historical records confirming the bible, and theoligical records confirming that the bible is inspired by a divine being..
    wit your POV, how many percent man ka ka sure nga kingkoy jud nang Bible?
    we know there are lots of people who've gain masters and doctors degree who gave their lives in studying the scripture before it was published...and wa paman gani na prove nga hoax ang bible hangtud karun..pero para nimu kingkoy ra..Lol
    we know some scientists also believes in the biblle..unless you found something that they did not...

    so i now have 2 questions for you..apart from what i asked about your knowledge sa legitimacy sa bible...

    1.you answered 50%( this is world records bai ha, you must be really really smart and at least traveled the whole world to know 50% of it) well imu man nang answer pud.
    would you agree that there is a 50% chance nga sayop ka?

    2.now is it logical to conclude that there is no God, if we are not even 100% sure about His existence?

    bonus question, honestly, 50%? amazing...
    it means that you have checked at least 50% of all the online links.blogs,website that talks about the subject..
    both theistic and aetheistic POVs..
    means that you have read 50% of all the books that talk about it...
    and it's gotta be from both POVs(to have a scientific and logical comparison)
    it means you have spoken at least 50% of the people who studied the subject
    or at least studied about their ideas and records...(carefully of course)
    well technically 50% about everything that there is about the subject..

    Sir Isaac Newton even said that what he know is only a drop and what he doesn't know is like an ocean
    Last edited by noy; 11-03-2012 at 12:48 AM.

  5. #2005

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    ok..wala nakoy kaistorya...Lol

  6. #2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    you just made it a hundred percent or at least 90-100% when you said kingkoy ang bible 'cause Christianity is largest faith sa tibuok kalibutan...

    in that case, out of all the historical records confirming the bible, and theoligical records confirming that the bible is inspired by a divine being..
    wit your POV, how many percent man ka ka sure nga kingkoy jud nang Bible?
    we know there are lots of people who've gain masters and doctors degree who gave their lives in studying the scripture before it was published...and wa paman gani na prove nga hoax ang bible hangtud karun..pero para nimu kingkoy ra..Lol
    we know some scientists also believes in the biblle..unless you found something that they did not...

    so i now have 2 questions for you..apart from what i asked about your knowledge sa legitimacy sa bible...

    1.you answered 50%( this is world records bai ha, you must be really really smart and at least traveled the whole world to know 50% of it) well imu man nang answer pud.
    would you agree that there is a 50% chance nga sayop ka?

    2.now is it logical to conclude that there is no God, if we are not even 100% sure about His existence?

    bonus question, honestly, 50%? amazing...
    it means that you have checked at least 50% of all the online links.blogs,website that talks about the subject..
    both theistic and aetheistic POVs..
    means that you have read 50% of all the books that talk about it...
    and it's gotta be from both POVs(to have a scientific and logical comparison)
    it means you have spoken at least 50% of the people who studied the subject
    or at least studied about their ideas and records...(carefully of course)
    well technically 50% about everything that there is about the subject..

    Sir Isaac Newton even said that what he know is only a drop and what he doesn't know is like an ocean
    drop - soul
    ocean - God

  7. #2007

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    kahibaw baka nga ang depiction sa crucifixion labi na ang paglansang sa tiil wherein one foot over the other, gi prove sa mga medical experts ug archeologists nga sayup? kay naay na uncover nga remains sa jerusalem nga naa pay lansang nipilit sa sides sa heels... so ang tanang depiction sayop base sa bukog na na-uncover... bahin sa existence ni jesus.... yes daghan ebedinsya nga tinuod sya as taw... but the claims to be son of god.... wala na maprove... kay maski knsa nga nagtukod ug religion pwde muclaim ana... kung ang proof ang miracles iya nahimo... ug sa iya Resurrection o ang pagbuhi ni Lazarus... kani nga istorya nahitabo nana 5000 yrs before ni christ sa usa sa mga ginoo sa egyptians nga c Horus... pareha au na sila ug istorya... bahin sa annunaki ug kukulkan... ako point ana... dili mo pareho ug ginoo then muclaim ang catholics nga sakto na dayun ilang belief system? unsay proof ana? ang bible? dili enuf ang bible to prove such claims...
    Part, nakabalo ba sad ka nga before pa nasuwat ang mga account sa bible, ang yawa nakabalo na about sa Ginoo? and made ways to divert humanity from the truth? mao nang purpose sa incarnation ni Jesus Christ part.... to lead us back to the truth!

    karon imong icompare sya sa mga ancient pagan gods, what if mao nay tool ni satan to confuse us but in reality theyre the demons that was casted away from God's presence?
    What these pagan gods brought to humanity, did they changed lives into righteousness? naay namartyr in believing horus, isis, etc? or mao lang ni ang nakahatag idea to rebel against God ug nakapalibog sa huna2 sa taw in effect nagpalayo na nuon sa kamatuoran?
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-03-2012 at 06:52 PM.

  8. #2008

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    @Epitaph

    kini:

    ***And you shall consume all the people whom the LORD your God shall deliver you; your eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shall you serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto you. -king james version deut 7:16

    *** Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy. king james version james 5:11

    pitiful and merciful god? hu sent the great flood to vanquish the wicked and after the flood u hv hitler, rasputin and other wicked persona thru history... so how cn u use the bible to prove some points in reality?
    Part, count the blessing nga gihatag sa ginoo sa imong kinabuhi....the air you breathe, tubig giinom, conscious mind, your trip around the sun yearly and most of all your life. Kinsay nagsustain ana? Kapila man nahitabo ang worldwide flood?

    Pasabot lang bro nga ang taw disobedient jud sa ginoo.....soon will come the great tribulation and the final judgment...wla nay sunod pa! kinsa pamay moreklamo kaha against sa iya?
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-04-2012 at 01:47 PM.

  9. #2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    does that disprove Christianity?or Catholicism on the process? i'm afraid it doesn't.
    it only disproves how we call ourselves (Christian or Catholic)..
    idba when we hear the word "politics" kasagaran mu sulod sa atong huna-huna kay corruption,abuse,greed...
    but is that the definition of politics? it's of the same concept bai, so if you will that as an argument to disprove
    religion and mostly God..murag di jud siya valid..the same concept allplies to aetheism, that not all aetheist are religion haters

    you're right we are capable of doing both good and bad things..
    can you tell me each person is always inclined to do good? even kadtong mga evil nga tao...
    i'm sure at first, their intention was good before that same intention was perverted into something else...

    naa kay nailhan nga tao nga walay sayop? dili nalang nang unsay sayop basing sa bible...
    basing sa mata sa tao...of course kita tanan nangasayop hinlabi na if our basis for morality is relative...
    sakto para nako may not be right for you...so of course masayop ta tanan..
    sayop paman gani tong mga tao nga nagbase sa ilang moralidad sa absolute teachings sa religion...nga sundon nalang, samot na tong relative lang...

    karung akong pangutana nimu bai, despite of knowing nga dili ta perfect, despite of the fact that we are only
    temporary aning kalibutana...despite of knowing that our sources and resources are limited...
    why do we long for something that is everlasting? bisan unsa nga buhat sa tao...magka increase jud na...
    mapa nindut or bati...and ginagmay nga negosyo...nagka dako...bisyo2x...padung sa addiction...
    as if we are trying to fit something infinite in out finite lives...nganu man na bai?
    I think there is no need to disprove christianity as in the first place, christianity has not yet been proven. why is religion so widespread? dig deep the political agenda behind it. the manipulation of the masses. how religion can be very useful to politicians. the struggle to power. it is one of the main reasons why religions can't be taken down.

    "kung asa to ang naga tapok, atoa ako". .... kinsa ang atoa? kamo nalang bahala mo tan-aw kung kinsa.

  10. #2010

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    nalingaw ko baylu-ay kurokuro diri... although either side wudn't wave a white flag.... ill just share my insights... i believe naabot ang taw sa kalibutan by chance... sa theory ni darwin... di niya ma completely connect ang hominids og homo sapiens kay naay missing link... the earliest recorded history of homo sapien's beginnings... from a cave man and in a short span of time he went out building pyramids ang complex civilizations... i am amazed sa history sa mayans kay gi calculate nila ang days in a year gihatag nila ang 365.2224 days... sa atomic clock kay 365.2220 days... grabe ka precise ila calculations nd to think they had the skies and themselves ra those days... the marthematics behind their calendar is horrific in a way they have connected the stars to their architecture and all of which was lost thru time and the mathematics and science field started to flourish centuries after them... all of the god idea came from the notion that a god came down from the skies... wherein behind those skies is space and the cosmos or wut.... i dont believe in the existence of a supreme being for wut i hav observed within my surroundings and nature itself... the main purpose of life is to survive nd pass ur genes to the next generation by reproduction.... if god created everything... within the animal kingdom, horrific survival it is for some species to coexist with others that live upon their agonizing end by devouring them alive... even lions kill baby lions in the hopes they would maintain their solidarity of territorial acquisitions... by claiming that there is a god thru the bible is not enuff for it takes a thing called "need to believe" if only u get to investigate to why religions are made perhaps a clearer picture would emerge... i dont believe in god but i believe in respect... its nice both sides get to talk it out and share their point of views with this neverending debacle... i enjoyed it a lot... afterall the site is ISTORYA.... have a safe day everyone... much respect....

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