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    Just want to add , considering the link and reference provided by the TS that identifies the REAL TEACHINGS of CHRIST , what will happen to the other teachings observed outside of that teaching ? Will it become FAKE TEACHINGS of CHRIST ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    Regardless of the open mind and heart you use, if it has no consultations and gikan ra nimo tanan , how can you justify its authenticity?

    Do you know the meaning of EXPLANATION and INTERPRETATION ?
    these are not authentic, even the catholicism, they are not universally accepted... with an open mind, i can accept both opposing ideas, and compare them, within me lng ha, akong timbang timbangon if possible ba, then asa ang mas bug-at and mas dool sa tinood

    in my own opinion, i have to struggle in seeking for the truth... ky believing in something that could not be true daku kaayo na ug impact ug effect para nako, and these things are very important for me, may not be important to you or to others

    i know mabutang nga tsismissism lng, but what ta kabalo, tinood diay ning ila, importante kaayo na para nako

    explanation - A statement or account that makes something clear
    interpretation - The action of explaining the meaning of something

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    like si piolo bayot...haha
    hahaha importante man kaha na nimo nga tsismis?

    kani nga tsismis, murag important kaayo ni para nako, ky kung possible mn nga tinood ni, at least nakatimbang timbang ug naka analyse nako daan

    ikaw bro, what if kung tinood nga bayot si piolo, importante diay na para nimo?

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    hahaha importante man kaha na nimo nga tsismis?

    kani nga tsismis, murag important kaayo ni para nako, ky kung possible mn nga tinood ni, at least nakatimbang timbang ug naka analyse nako daan

    ikaw bro, what if kung tinood nga bayot si piolo, importante diay na para nimo?
    joke ra na oi..pawas laay bah...time pa, wa pa nimu tubaga akong pangutana...

    kung mamatay ka nga dili nimu maabut ang Christhood? what will happen to you?
    OT:basin ugma napud ko kareply nimu..kay uli nako.sa ofis man gud ko maka log in..
    way net sa balay...

    hopegully imu nakong tubagon ugma bai goodnight!

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    bai,sorry kaau but you did not answer my question directly..
    yes i agree that a man is a triune being,(composed with body,soul and spirit) but not necessarily how you interpret it..
    no disrespect intended ha, but i would really like you to answer this one..

    "bai what happens if mamatay ka nga wa ka attain anang level nga kitawag nimu ug "Christhood"?"
    thanks
    naa ra akong tubag:
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    kung ang body magbuhat ug maayo mo reflect na sa iyang spirit, same pud ug magbuhat ug di maayo which makalangan sa iyang pag learn unsa ang soul and God. it is the body that commits the sin but not the spirit but it will affect the evolution of the spirit in learning what is soul and God and maka delay sa pagbalik ngadto sa God.
    ang pasabot ana, you need your body. so kung mamatay na, wala nai body, di na ka ka attain ana. but naa man reincarnation, the spirit have the chance again, if mamatay na pud unya wa pa naka attain, balik balik na pud hangtud nga maka attain na, pero ang main goal is God, and through the attainment of being a Christ is the only way

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    Just want to add , considering the link and reference provided by the TS that identifies the REAL TEACHINGS of CHRIST , what will happen to the other teachings observed outside of that teaching ? Will it become FAKE TEACHINGS of CHRIST ?
    possible na, it will become teachings of Rome, but lisod na i accept if tinood nga fake, esp. with so many catholics and christians around the world

    for me, one reason nga possible, naa siya similarity with the teachings of other religions

  7. #57

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    @TS
    i agree that the most important thing in life is to know the truth. most probably mao sad na ang gi-desire nato diri. thumbs up for it!

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    possible na, it will become teachings of Rome, but lisod na i accept if tinood nga fake, esp. with so many catholics and christians around the world
    for me, one reason nga possible, naa siya similarity with the teachings of other religions
    TS or could it be possible that the warnings of Apostle Paul about be careful with another gospel is true?

    2Co:11:4: For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    Ga:1:6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

    You have to consider this about the gnostic gospels which is the basis of your belief:

    The Gnostic Gospels

    The important thing to remember is that these documents are dated to the 2nd and 3rd centuries -- generations AFTER the New Testament gospels were written, adopted and the early church formed (the earliest of the Gnostic Gospels is supposedly the "Gospel of Thomas", dated by experts to 150 AD). That the Council of Nicea in 325 AD reviewed some 80 gospels and decided to adopt only is nonsense. The gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John had long since been adopted by the church as authoritative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    naa ra akong tubag:

    ang pasabot ana, you need your body. so kung mamatay na, wala nai body, di na ka ka attain ana. but naa man reincarnation, the spirit have the chance again, if mamatay na pud unya wa pa naka attain, balik balik na pud hangtud nga maka attain na, pero ang main goal is God, and through the attainment of being a Christ is the only way
    TS, your belief is more likely hinduism but what if Jesus was true?
    This contradicts Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men ONCE to die and after this the Judgment." We only pass this present life but once, we are deemed responsible with all our actions because of freewill and intellect. It will be too late kung mag expect pa ta for the next reincarnation then magwala in this present life. You know, that kind of teaching would only encourage man sa pagbuhat ug dili maayo or to commit more SIN tungod kay wala ang concept of Judgment. If that is the case, lisud ma attain ang peace because of our present sinful nature (greed, lustful,etc.) that Man has fallen short before God because of disobedience.

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    @TS
    Regarding the divinity of Jesus, wala man sad nag-ingon ang bible that He is not God kundi imo ra sad nang interpretation. But if you try to dig deeper it would come out that Jesus is the manifestation of Divine personality. Dili ta makasabot unsa/kinsa jud ang Ginoo kung wala sya magpakataw unless like in the OT times nga permi sya mo intervene sa taw. But it is not the case coz dili sad ma exercise atong faith ana. That's why the Son was sent from the Father once and for all completed the way to salvation, now the Holy Spirit is the one that guides us into that truth!

    The TRINITY explains everything about the concept of who/what God is in the transcendent, spiritual, physical levels.

    Nindot kayo nga explaination about the Holy Trinity:

    The Holy Trinity

    Trinity Help From C.S. Lewis

    You know that in space you can move in three ways - to left or right, backwards or forwards, up or down. Every direction is either one of these three or a compromise between them. They are called the three Dimensions. Now notice :his. If you are using only one dimension, you could draw only a straight line. If you are using two; you could draw a figure: say, a square. And a square is made up of four straight lines. Now a step further. If you have three dimensions, you can then build what we call a solid body: say, a cube - a thing like a dice or a lump of sugar. And a cube is made up of six squares.

    Do you see the point? A world of one dimension would be a straight line. In a two-dimensional world, you still get straight lines, but many lines make one figure. In a three-dimensional world, you still get figures but many figures make one solid body. In other words, as you advance to more real and more complicated levels, you do not leave behind you the things you found on the simpler levels: you still have them, but combined in new ways - in ways you could not imagine if you knew only the simpler levels.

    Now the Christian account of God involves just the same principle. The human level is a simple and rather empty level. On the human level one person is one being, and any two persons are two separate beings - just as, in two dimensions (say on a flat sheet of paper) one square is one figure, and any two squares are two separate figures. On the Divine level you still find personalities; but up there you find them combined in new ways which we, who do not live on that level, cannot imagine. In God's dimension, so to speak, you find a being who is three Persons while remaining one Being, just as a cube is six squares while remaining one cube. Of course we cannot fully conceive a Being like that: just as, if we were so made that we perceived only two dimensions in space we could never properly imagine a cube. But we can get a sort of faint notion of it. And when we do, we are then, for the first time in our lives, getting some positive idea, however faint, of something super-personal - something more than a person. It is something we could never have guessed, and yet, once we have been told, one almost feels one ought to have been able to guess it because it fits in so well with all the things we know already.

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