Real Teachings of Jesus

[darknin']

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i think this is a good debate. hmmm.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Question lang sa TS ....

Do you believe in all you read or come across sa internet diay ?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

bai what happens if mamatay ka nga wa ka attain anang level nga kitawag nimu ug "Christhood"?
waiting on Jesus is not literally waiting for Him to do something in the end of times man gud
kay humana man iyang task sa cross ang pagluwas nato through His perfect sacrifice..
waiting is believing,hoping and following...but not in the sense nga maki level ka niya because that is impossible..
murag ing ani ang concept,
Jesus is the Son of God who became son of man, so that we sons of man might become children of God..
ang ato situation karun is more like ing ani...
"He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God.
John1:11-12
ang right as children of God ra atong maangkon cguro..
murag tag gi adopt ni Father God through Jesus..and by Jesus we can inherit every right that was due for the Son.

yes we are created in God's image..as in we love,we feel,we sacrifice...but we SIN
does God SIN? can a person like us be like Christ who doesn't sin?
mao btaw nag ask ko nimu earlier kung unsaon nimu pagluwas sa imu self?

ang salvation is murag ticket sa concert nga gipurchase sa Ginoo para nato tanan,si Jesus ang iyang gibayad..
naa ra na nato kung ato i claim or magcge pa ta ug pangita ug laing ikabayad para mupalit ug ticket nga naa naman guy ticket...or worse...dili ra jud nato i claim..

man is composed of the body, the spirit and the soul... what is in the same image and likeness with God? it is our soul, it is pure goodness same as God, mao na siya nga the kingdom of God is within us, ky our soul is in our body, now what is the role of our spirit, our spirit is evolving, learning what is our soul and God is, and he needs our body for that until such time nga in complete knowledge na siya with the soul and God and it can return to God. Ang spirit, the real us, nisulod sa body, pagkatawo gyud, kung ang bata ipanganak unya di siya moginhawa, wai spirito nga musulod, mamatay na, pag ginhawa nya, nisulod ang spirito, nabuhi ang bata. inig kamatay pud, mobiya ra pud siya sa lawas, bisan pa ug kamatyonon ang tawo, basta ang spirito di pa mugawas, buhi pa na.

kung ang body magbuhat ug maayo mo reflect na sa iyang spirit, same pud ug magbuhat ug di maayo which makalangan sa iyang pag learn unsa ang soul and God. it is the body that commits the sin but not the spirit but it will affect the evolution of the spirit in learning what is soul and God and maka delay sa pagbalik ngadto sa God.

to save myself would be to investigate and analyze these explanations of bible verses and i may find the real teachings of Jesus which is more on to do something rather than waiting


"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" (Matt. 7:21-23)

"My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me." (John 7:16)

"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but He sent me." (John 8:42)

klaro kaayo in those verses bai, he is not a God

now about sa Son of God naa sa post#38. pls read.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Question lang sa TS ....

Do you believe in all you read or come across sa internet diay ?

i don't believe it right away, with an open mind and open heart, i try to understand what their explanations are, which are different than what is being taught to me since i was young up to now. i am analyzing and comparing, and somehow, their explanations are possible. esp there are some evidences like the copper scrolls and there are some explanations on the misinterpretations from original language like the Messiah and Son.

the discovery of copper scrolls, the exclusion of some gospels that contains Jesus teachings i would say that the statement below is possible:

source: Real Teachings of Jesus: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy loads and pu

This is precisely what the Roman emperor Constantine did with the teachings of Jesus. He realized that because so many people all over Europe and the Middle East were trying to follow Jesus' teachings, he could control the people by creating a single "Christian" organizational structure. So Constantine collected together teachers from different regions (the Synod of Nicea) and coerced them to formulate a single doctrine regarding Jesus (the Nicene Creed), which every church had to (by law) synchronize with. Then he oversaw the politically-motivated selection of certain scriptural texts of the many that were circulating during those times, and appointed scribes to combine and translate those texts into a cohesive single book, the Bible. This became the official scripture of the official Church sanctioned by the Roman empire - the early Roman Catholic Church.

Like the situation Jesus is discussing regarding the Jews, this new ecclesiastical organization set up by the Roman empire became law. Eventually, people were required to attend the Roman Catholic masses. If they didn't, they would be condemned, and hung or burned at the stake. It didn't matter that the priests of this ecclesiastical church did not actually teach what Jesus taught. Their masses were ritualistic ceremonies spoken in Latin. Most people around Europe could not even understand Latin. So they simply sat in mass, and listened and repeated Latin phrases, along with the ritualistic motions. Many of these rituals still take place today among Catholic churches, with the addition of English Bibles and a priest who might add an English sermon.

This coerced power structure replete with empty rituals called the Roman Catholic Church virtually controlled the Christian religion for over a thousand years. During this period so many atrocities were committed by this organization. So many innocent people were slaughtered. So many people were tortured, in the name of Jesus. This of course was why Jesus also said:

“Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will come to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Matt. 7:21-23)

It wasn't until a few fearless English and German persons decided that enough was enough in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries (such as John Wycliffe, Jan Hus and Martin Luther) that some change came. Even then, those who translated the Bible from Latin to the language people could understand were sought out and persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Regardless of the open mind and heart you use, if it has no consultations and gikan ra nimo tanan , how can you justify its authenticity?

Do you know the meaning of EXPLANATION and INTERPRETATION ?

[Devian]

oh constantine and the council of nicea.

lingaw sab ko basa 'bout that topic.

[Fri13th]

Question pud TS...

Imo bang gi sagol2x ang pagtulon-an sa nagka lain-laing Holy Books sa kalibutan I.E. Bible, Torah, Quran, Thripitaka, Dhammapad, Acceptable Scientific book/source, etc.? Gikuha ang acceptable para nimo, unya naghimo dayun kag kaugalingon nga belief/doctrine (Of course with the influence of the authors of the e-book you read)? Sakto ba TS?

[noy]

Question lang sa TS ....

Do you believe in all you read or come across sa internet diay ?

like si piolo bayot...haha

[phoqscofield]

Dont Doubt.. Have faith on what you believe in.. Don't be clouded sa different info na nakat-onan nimo karon

[noy]

man is composed of the body, the spirit and the soul... what is in the same image and likeness with God? it is our soul, it is pure goodness same as God, mao na siya nga the kingdom of God is within us, ky our soul is in our body, now what is the role of our spirit, our spirit is evolving, learning what is our soul and God is, and he needs our body for that until such time nga in complete knowledge na siya with the soul and God and it can return to God. Ang spirit, the real us, nisulod sa body, pagkatawo gyud, kung ang bata ipanganak unya di siya moginhawa, wai spirito nga musulod, mamatay na, pag ginhawa nya, nisulod ang spirito, nabuhi ang bata. inig kamatay pud, mobiya ra pud siya sa lawas, bisan pa ug kamatyonon ang tawo, basta ang spirito di pa mugawas, buhi pa na.

kung ang body magbuhat ug maayo mo reflect na sa iyang spirit, same pud ug magbuhat ug di maayo which makalangan sa iyang pag learn unsa ang soul and God. it is the body that commits the sin but not the spirit but it will affect the evolution of the spirit in learning what is soul and God and maka delay sa pagbalik ngadto sa God.

to save myself would be to investigate and analyze these explanations of bible verses and i may find the real teachings of Jesus which is more on to do something rather than waiting


"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" (Matt. 7:21-23)

"My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me." (John 7:16)

"If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but He sent me." (John 8:42)

klaro kaayo in those verses bai, he is not a God

now about sa Son of God naa sa post#38. pls read.

bai,sorry kaau but you did not answer my question directly..
yes i agree that a man is a triune being,(composed with body,soul and spirit) but not necessarily how you interpret it..
no disrespect intended ha, but i would really like you to answer this one..

"bai what happens if mamatay ka nga wa ka attain anang level nga kitawag nimu ug "Christhood"?"
thanks