Real Teachings of Jesus

[noy]

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Aw kung mao nah, Mu log Out sah ko diri sa istorya kay Maghimu sah ko MILAGRO

Adtu sah ko mga Ginoo

sakto diay ang mga tagalog sio kay ilang tawag sa mga laki kay Ginoo man...
Ginoong siodenz...where are you? hehehehe...peace TS, kalingaw ra ni gud.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Puro man na personal explanation tanan kana imung gikopya pero way verse ghatag. Daghan kaayu mga butang gipang mention wa gani gisuwat sa Bibliya.

example:
"Logos is the part of God that acts in the world. It is the perfect unity of the human and the divine."...
"The Logos is the divine "spark" of God within humans that needs to awakened. Everyone has the "image of the Word (Logos)" within them and it is for this reason that Genesis describes humanity as created "in the image and likeness of God."
- Wa juy biblical verse ikasupport about anang Spark. Mura mag sa Transformer
-sa Genesis ni ingun ang Dios - "1:26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness".
- Kinsa diay kuyog niya nga ni ingun man siya ug US? di ba ang LOGOS/WORD man? So nakig istorya ang Dios sa Divine SPark? nakig istorya ang Dios sa "part of God that acts in the world.". WOW

OT: Spark murag sa transformer

Naa pa:
"In other words, every human is an incarnation of the Logos and every human has to potential of becoming like Jesus, a manifestation of the human-divine unity."
-samot kalibog
-John 3:16 “For God so loved the world,[a] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
-Nganu gud tawn naay ONLY SON if kada taw pwedi man diay OR incarnation man diay sa word of God.
-Nganu gipadalhan paman tawn tag SAVIOR if kitang tanan Pwedi mahimung Jesus Christ nga pwedi muluwas.

OT: Murag diay nang spark ug sharingan, i awaken pa usa magamit.

thanks for your input bai. it can make me analyze more.

image and likeness - mao na kasagaran mo ingon nga "daghan diay ug nawong ang Ginoo" , ang akong pagsabot ana, nga there is something in us nga same image and likeness with God, and what is that, it is our spirit, for me, mao na ang atong true self, nakatago, nakatulog nga kinahanglan pukawon. ang imohang mga question is more applicable sa physical aspects like "nakig storya", but i think to understand more clearly, dapat di nato gamitan ug pang tao o physical, ug kung unsa man na, mao na dapat atong pangitaon

ang kaning naa nato nga nakatulog lng, mao pud na ang naa ni God ug naa ni Jesus, nga kung pukawon na na siya, mapareha na ta ni Jesus, mao na akong pagsabot ana, which is better salvation than to wait for Jesus

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son" - Father-Son, Creator-Product, God created Christ for man's salvation

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Its hard to consult and believe a teaching that is found on a website that dont have the Authors information - SAMOTAN pa nga sa ubos sa Website naa naka butang link:


"VISIT OUR NDE ONLINE STORE"

ang ilang explanation mao ang important para nako for comparison para ma compare nako sa current idea and nothing else... naa pud baya sila sakto nga explanation, it's up to me now, kung asa ang mas duol sa tinood hehehe

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Aw kung mao nah, Mu log Out sah ko diri sa istorya kay Maghimu sah ko MILAGRO

Adtu sah ko mga Ginoo

that's nice bro!

basin maigo ka sa storya ni St Paul:

Paul wrote about teachings which are taught to spiritual "babies," teachings about righteousness for the more mature, and then teachings for the spiritually mature. Paul reveals this fact immediately after equating Melchizedek to Jesus by stating:

"We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. (Heb. 5:11-14)


OT: naa pa karon akong nabasahan o:

Jesus had a wife, newly discovered gospel suggests - Yahoo! News



A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple."
The finding was announced to the public today (Sept. 18 ) by Karen King, a historian of early Christianity, author of several books about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School. King first examined the privately owned fragment in 2011, and has since been studying it with the help of a small group of scholars.
According to the New York Times, King and her collaborators have concluded that the business card-size fragment is not a forgery, and she is presenting the discovery today at a meeting of International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome.
The fragment, written in Coptic, the language of a group of early Christians in Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions about the fragment abound, but scholars say it will nonetheless reignite several old debates: Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [Jesus Christ the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?]

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

source: Real Teachings of Jesus: Messiah

"Yes, it is as you say." (Matthew 26:64)
This response by Jesus came after the Jewish priests were questioning Jesus after his arrest. While he remained silent for most of their questions, he replied to this statement by the high priest:

The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God." (Matt. 26:63)

Jesus affirmed this identification. So let's get clear on what he affirmed:

The word "Christ" is being translated from the Greek work Χριστός (Christos). According to the lexicon and according to Biblical scholars, this word can be translated to either mean "Anointed," "Messiah" or "Christ."

We must first question why the Jewish priests had such an interest in questioning Jesus about this identification. It is because being "anointed" has a long and cherished meaning in Jewish history. All of the great saints and prophets of the Old Testament, indeed, were anointed. This includes Moses, Joshua, David, Samuel, Saul and many others. Just see this clear statement by God to the Israelites about what this meant:

"Anoint them just as you anointed their father, so they may serve Me as priests. Their anointing will be to a priesthood that will continue for all generations to come." (Exodus 40:15)

Those were the names of Aaron's sons, the anointed priests, who were ordained to serve as priests. (Numbers 3:3)

In fact, an "anointed one" as confirmed in the scripture, is God's representative. His loving servant, who served as a priest to teach others about Him. Here is a clear statement by God about His anointed:

"I will raise up for Myself a faithful priest, who will do according to what is in My heart and mind. I will firmly establish his house, and he will minister before My anointed one always." (1 Samuel 2:10)

Notice that God also says "he will minister before My anointed one" here. This means that not only does God's anointed worship Him, but His anointed also serves His anointed. This refers to the service relationship between the teacher and the student.

We find that Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Saul, David, Solomon and so many others were anointed. They also each "ministered before" (served or subjected themselves to) their predecessor. While we do find anointing ceremonies among these, we also find that the sacred anointment was actually a confirmation of their growing relationship with God:

Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul's head and kissed him, saying, "Has not the LORD anointed you leader over His inheritance?" (1 Samuel 10:1)

[noy]

image and likeness - mao na kasagaran mo ingon nga "daghan diay ug nawong ang Ginoo" , ang akong pagsabot ana, nga there is something in us nga same image and likeness with God, and what is that, it is our spirit, for me, mao na ang atong true self, nakatago, nakatulog nga kinahanglan pukawon. ang imohang mga question is more applicable sa physical aspects like "nakig storya", but i think to understand more clearly, dapat di nato gamitan ug pang tao o physical, ug kung unsa man na, mao na dapat atong pangitaon

ang kaning naa nato nga nakatulog lng, mao pud na ang naa ni God ug naa ni Jesus, nga kung pukawon na na siya, mapareha na ta ni Jesus, mao na akong pagsabot ana, which is better salvation than to wait for Jesus

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son" - Father-Son, Creator-Product, God created Christ for man's salvation

bai what happens if mamatay ka nga wa ka attain anang level nga kitawag nimu ug "Christhood"?
waiting on Jesus is not literally waiting for Him to do something in the end of times man gud
kay humana man iyang task sa cross ang pagluwas nato through His perfect sacrifice..
waiting is believing,hoping and following...but not in the sense nga maki level ka niya because that is impossible..
murag ing ani ang concept,
Jesus is the Son of God who became son of man, so that we sons of man might become children of God..
ang ato situation karun is more like ing ani...
"He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God.
John1:11-12
ang right as children of God ra atong maangkon cguro..
murag tag gi adopt ni Father God through Jesus..and by Jesus we can inherit every right that was due for the Son.

yes we are created in God's image..as in we love,we feel,we sacrifice...but we SIN
does God SIN? can a person like us be like Christ who doesn't sin?
mao btaw nag ask ko nimu earlier kung unsaon nimu pagluwas sa imu self?

ang salvation is murag ticket sa concert nga gipurchase sa Ginoo para nato tanan,si Jesus ang iyang gibayad..
naa ra na nato kung ato i claim or magcge pa ta ug pangita ug laing ikabayad para mupalit ug ticket nga naa naman guy ticket...or worse...dili ra jud nato i claim..

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

bai what happens if mamatay ka nga wa ka attain anang level nga kitawag nimu ug "Christhood"
waiting on Jesus is not literally waiting for Him to do something in the end of times man gud
waiting is believing,hoping and following...but not in the sense nga maki level ka niya because that is impossible..
yes we are created in God's image..as in we love,we feel,we sacrifice...but we SIN
does God SIN? can a person like us be like Christ who doesn't sin?
mao btaw nag ask ko nimu earlier kung unsaon nimu pagluwas sa imu self?

before i go further bro, about us committing sins, can i ask you? you know what composed man? how many?

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

source: Real Teachings of Jesus: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.” (Matt. 5:9)

“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.” (Matt. 5:9)
Notice that this statement by Jesus completely negates the notion, put forth by so many ecclesiastical Christian organizations and promulgated by the Synod of Nicene - a political council organized by the Emperor Constantine to control the Christian religion - that Jesus is the only son of God.

Jesus' statement also sheds light on the correct translation of the Greek word that has been translated to “son,” υἱός (huios). While this can indicate a relationship of offspring within the limitations of a physical family, the word has two meanings according to lexicon reference. In this context it is more appropriately defined, from the Greek lexicon, as "one who depends on another or is his follower." What is a "dependent follower" then? This would be more aptly described as a "devoted follower" or "loving servant."

Devoted follower or loving servant also makes more sense within the context of the attribute that many in the Christian world give Jesus regarding him being the "son of God." In other words, how could peacemakers suddenly rise to the position of being "sons of God" if they were sons of their own physical fathers? If we utilize the correct translation to “servant,” we discover the statement’s true meaning: by doing things that are pleasing to God and God’s representative, we become a devoted follower of God: we become one of God’s servants.

This interpretation and is supported by another statements by Jesus:

"For they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection." (Luke 20:36 RSV)

Jesus also uses the word υἱὸς to refer to "servant" or "devotee" elsewhere:

"while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness; there men will weep and gnash their teeth." (Matt. 8:12 RSV)

and

"Can the sons of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then will they fast." (Matt. 9:15 ASV)

In all of these statements, we find the Greek word υἱός being used by Jesus, and none of them refer to a physical offspring. They all refer to people devoted in some way, to either God and the resurrection, "the kingdom," or to the bridechamber (Matt. 9:15 has also thus been translated to "attendants of the bridegroom" (NAV)).

To this we add other statements from the New Testament:

"...because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God." (Romans 8:13-15)

“You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus…” (Galatians 3:26)

These all point to "sons of God" being used to describe devoted servants of God.

Other statements in the Bible confirm this interpretation:

…the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. (Genesis 6:2)

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4)

In all these verses, the word "sons" is also being translated from the Greek word υἱὸς - used also to describe Jesus as the "son of God." All are also translated to "sons" in most Biblical translations, except for Luke 20:36, for which most Biblical translations use the English word "children." Nevertheless, Jesus is using the same Greek word (υἱὸς) in all three statements, the same word used to Jesus as a "son of God."

These all point to "sons of God" being used to describe devoted servants of God.

[Devian]

interesting discussion..

maayo ni kay naay lain interpretation.

observer mode on.

[noy]

before i go further bro, about us committing sins, can i ask you? you know what composed man? how many?

sorry bro wa ko kasabut sa imung question,hehe
can you be more specific on that? before i answer that, pwede nimu tubagon usa akong pangutana?hehehe..