Questions for the Atheists

[noy]

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I cannot kill my child when a deity asks me to,
I cannot kill a woman who has touched my genitals,
I cannot not shave my face with a razor,
I cannot even think of putting Ethiopia or any country to the sword,
I cannot dare to curse children who make fun of me when I'm bald and send 2 bears to kill them,
I cannot think of praying for all the first borns of those related to my enemy to die,
I cannot let a mob rape my daughters so angels could be safe,
I cannot curse my one of my sons to be slaves to his brothers,
I cannot stop making love to my girlfriend,
I cannot kill a woman who has made love to someone of another religion,
I cannot be happy when I bash an infants head to a rock when he disobeys,

Dile jd ni nako kaya tanan ang mga gipangbuhat ug mga gisugo sa biblical laws and holy peeps. And as far as I know about sa other major religions, dile pd nako kaya ila laws and stuff, (mg buddhist ta ko, pero anti-vanity mn gd, and im a very vain person heeh).

so technically, I have no deity or dogma gi sunod, so atheist jd ko, loud and proud. I'm a person who loves his family and and does not force other people to think what i think, I respect their choices. hence, why I let my children choose their own religion. if mag catholic sila, sige go, if trip nila mag scientologist, why not? if mag Deist or Muslim sila, way blema! kung asa sila malipay ug manindot ila self, adto.

the fact that you are selfless when it comes to loving,you are following God 'cause that it the very core message of the bible,
those rules you qouted are applicable and were set because of how people behave during their time, they were not as civilized as us today..
and even today, in the civilized world..some people would still behave the opposite.unsa nlang kaha ug way moralidad karun?

and regarding the verse where Lot, was ready to give her daughters just to protect God's angels
was Lots' devotion to God..but the question is, were Lots' daughters given to the evil crowd?
of course not.they were even saved from the balls of fire. and God dod not command Lot to giver his daughters in teh first place.

and was Isaac killed as an offering to God, no, it was a test of faith to abraham..'cause God was about to make him the father of all nations.

and the death of the egyptian infants were the result of pharaohs pride that despite of the signs showed by God through moses
he would still not let the Hebrews go.similar to the death of innocent people in our time, mostly a result of the abusiveness of other people.

there are some rules in the old testament that we may find no sense, like not shaving your beard,
not using cotton for clothes...those laws were set to have distinction between the Jewish people.
to know who is worshipping the Lord.'cause in the OLD testament, salvation is through works.

you may not have a dogma or diety nga guisunod but since you abide in the civil laws, civil laws were actually based on the moral teachings and words of God in the bible you so love to mock.
i suggest you try reading the new testament.if you've read it already, perhaps you ought to read it again

[mokiloo]

yes i agree bro sharing is not offensive provided twith the right place,right time and agreements between both parties..
if done otherwise, it might be considered as disrespect.say for example if you go to a an exclusive muslim country where they do not allow other religion in thier area, if we go there to preach that would be violating their right for exclusivity and that's disrespect. if you hear a man saying that He doesnt believe in God and added don't try to argue with me..then as a sign of respect,though we would want to share further, we would have to stop.'cause part of the Christian faith that says loving one another as one's self is respecting others regardless of whatever faith or belief they have

and we cannot just shout about Jesus on the streets of a muslim country and violate our muslim brothers and sisters and insult them because of our eagerness to preach our faith..that is the way of the fanatics and extremist do. but if given a chance like there's a formal sharing of view about religion..or a muslim approaches and asked about my Jesus..or a thread like these where we can share the ideas of our faith or an aetheist would ask why do i believe in God?...then i don't see any reason why i shouldnt...in fact brother jcboy a muslim istoryan invited me to visit him in their mosque..as i was curious why he embraced Islam.and i have been blessed by His faith in Allah..and if given a chance to share about my Jesus?then i would

no ui

what about the mods in istorya prohibiting such "evangelical" promotions or in your most favorite term "sharing"
na refrain from posting kay maka spark ug unwanted debates?
Ni respeto mo? But u did so kay sayon ra man no risk involve like you said you "not violating" or showing disrepect to muslim our brothers.

Pero tanaw nako if some of our muslim brothers are just like the rest nga dili known to be aggressive and violent or simpy kahadlokan..I think dugay namo nag syagit2x sa inyung "truth" nag "share" namo sa inyu mga religious claims

You said so yourself in one of your reponses its like advertisement diba?

What if our mods are like that kaha?

[noy]

no ui

what about the mods in istorya prohibiting such "evangelical" promotions or in your most favorite term "sharing"
na refrain from posting kay maka spark ug unwanted debates?
Ni respeto mo? But u did so kay sayon ra man no risk involve like you said you "not violating" or showing disrepect to muslim our brothers.

Pero tanaw nako if some of our muslim brothers are just like the rest nga dili known to be aggressive and violent or simpy kahadlokan..I think dugay namo nag syagit2x sa inyung "truth" nag "share" namo sa inyu mga religious claims

You said so yourself in one of your reponses its like advertisement diba?

What if our mods are like that kaha?

what the mods are against to are debates with personal attacts bro,and topic that ends up with personal atacks and harmful words pinned on the people involved in the discussion..threads like these are yes, prone to agressive comments,but it actually depends on the type of people who talking.if everyone would keep the cool and relax while we are arguing on things.these topics are actually the kind of topic where we both parties can excercise their reasoning skills.and i think these type of threads are more sensible compared to threads like what are you thinking right now? or the like...no offense sa mga TS ato nga threads ha...i just needed to stress my point.again if everyone would just be civil about these discussions,not only referring to aetheists including the teists also,then there's no problem with it.

sharing and arguments with different ideas somehow relates to advertising 'cause you are trying to win the other persons principle..

i've already told you what my reason why at times i would share openly and discreetly.
and please refrain from making any assumptions in what i would do when it comes to sharing about my faith
like when you said nga kung ang mga muslim di pa agressive kay hagbay ra ko ga shagit2x..'cause you clearly do not know me
and you as a person do not have the right to say what i would and would not do given the situation..
yes there are Christians who do it that way(agressively,sometimes even to the point of disrespect) but NOT all are like that.
and most certainly you are not in the position to generalize.

[tuffie09]

I dont see a point on why should this be a topic in the first place.

[phoqscofield]

naa koy question.. kinsa man ang inyo sampiton kng dako kaau inyo problema? like maka patay mo ug uban pa dha? naa man jd moy sampiton kung mahitabo man gani na ninyo

[pinoy_09]

naa koy question.. kinsa man ang inyo sampiton kng dako kaau inyo problema? like maka patay mo ug uban pa dha? naa man jd moy sampiton kung mahitabo man gani na ninyo

Family. Friends. People who are close to us.

These people are much better because the least they could do is respond and give comfort.

Does a deity do that? No.

[phoqscofield]

Family. Friends. People who are close to us. These people are much better because the least they could do is respond and give comfort. Does a deity do that? No.

What if boss wala na tanan imong gpanghisgot asa man mo musangpit?

[Rocky Duarte]

wa koy masulti. nalingaw kos basa sa comments. hehe

[._.]

no ui

what about the mods in istorya prohibiting such "evangelical" promotions or in your most favorite term "sharing"
na refrain from posting kay maka spark ug unwanted debates?
Ni respeto mo? But u did so kay sayon ra man no risk involve like you said you "not violating" or showing disrepect to muslim our brothers.

Pero tanaw nako if some of our muslim brothers are just like the rest nga dili known to be aggressive and violent or simpy kahadlokan..I think dugay namo nag syagit2x sa inyung "truth" nag "share" namo sa inyu mga religious claims

You said so yourself in one of your reponses its like advertisement diba?

What if our mods are like that kaha?

sir MOKLO naa diay nag "evangelical promotions" deri wala man ceguro ang imong lang pass judge maoy sayop.

[KlaytoN]

hi bro the book of Isaiah was written thousands of years older than magellan
and it stated that the earth is round..
Isaiah 40:22 ""He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth
and if i'm not mistaken wasnt it science who qouted that the earth was a flat disk?
if magellan heard that from the church then i dont know what kind of theology they teach...
or that magellan qoutation was just a hoax..it could be the thought of the day but difinitely not truth of the day.

and to add a bit, this bible verse says that the earth is floating in space..

Job 26:7
He is stretching out the north over the empty place,
Hanging the earth upon nothing;

how would Job know in his time that earth is just floating in space?well yeah there's an orbit...but literally, it is floating...
It was not until some 400 years ago from our present time did we even begin to understand about gravity and how it holds the planets in place. Job is like the great great great great...grandfather in age of Sir Isaac Newton who discovered gravity

I was also led to believe those two verses are "scientific proof" kuno that the Bible is divinely inspired and is very much way ahead in science. Until i realized this are merely the interpretation of some christian fundamentalists to suit their agenda and this view is shared only by a small minority of the Judeo-Christian faith. It's kinda weird or impossible for the different major Judeo-Christian religions and denominations to miss out those two verses for almost 2,000 years and then suddenly in the late 20th century some Christian scholars kuno will make an outrageous claim and interpretation.

Isaiah 40:22 "circle of the earth" is more reasonably interpreted as referring to a flat circular earth with the heavens forming a dome above it. Such an interpretation is consistent with other passages of the Bible which refer to a solid firmament (Gen. 1:6-20, 7:11; Ezekiel 1:22-26; Job 9:8, 22:14, etc.). It is also consistent with the cosmology common in neighboring cultures. A "circle" being two-dimensional in form is in contrast with a "sphere" which is the closest shape of the earth.. Religious liberals which comprises majority of the scholars would group Isaiah 40:22 together with Job 22:14 "circle of the heaven" and Proverbs 8:27 "circle of the deep" to refer to the earth having a two dimensional circular form -- in the shape of a flat disk. Historians, archaeologists, mainline and liberal theologians generally believe that the Bible writers simply accepted their contemporary Pagan beliefs of neighboring countries about the shape of the earth, and the layout of the universe. This is how Isaiah viewed the universe:



courtesy: religioustolerance.org

Job 26:7 If you're living in Job's time, you can easily understand why he was able to say that God hangeth the earth on nothing. He could have been observing the heavens and noticed there's nothing visibly tying the earth to the sky. The sun and moon also appear to hang on nothing, and that idea could be extended to the earth. BUT IT DOES NOT PROVE THE EARTH IS FLOATING IN SPACE. The quote from Job is misleading. Even if the earth "hangeth upon nothing", something that "hangeth" must still hangeth from something. The fact that Job talks about the earth hanging at all is proof of its falsity. Now, if Job said something like "the earth floateth among the emptiness of the void", religionists would have something to talk about.

Here's a surprise. If we check the other verses in the Book of Job, we see that Job seems to say the exact opposite:

“He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.” Job 9:6

Pillars? How can the earth hang on nothing and be placed on pillars?

God also seems to support the idea of a foundation, and answers Job saying:

“Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? … Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened?” Job 38:4-6

God tells us what those foundations are in 1 Samuel and Psalms 75:

“The pillars of the earth are the LORD’s, and he hath set the world upon them.” 1 Samuel 2:8

“When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm.” Psalm 75:3

This is a clear dilemma to those Christian fundamentalists and those people that share the same idea like you.