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  1. #1501

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    ^^^
    no ui...just like what your doing here gud...SHARING ra diba?
    and do you think its offensive diay mu SHARE ka sa imong TRUTH?
    yes i agree bro sharing is not offensive provided twith the right place,right time and agreements between both parties..
    if done otherwise, it might be considered as disrespect.say for example if you go to a an exclusive muslim country where they do not allow other religion in thier area, if we go there to preach that would be violating their right for exclusivity and that's disrespect. if you hear a man saying that He doesnt believe in God and added don't try to argue with me..then as a sign of respect,though we would want to share further, we would have to stop.'cause part of the Christian faith that says loving one another as one's self is respecting others regardless of whatever faith or belief they have

    and we cannot just shout about Jesus on the streets of a muslim country and violate our muslim brothers and sisters and insult them because of our eagerness to preach our faith..that is the way of the fanatics and extremist do. but if given a chance like there's a formal sharing of view about religion..or a muslim approaches and asked about my Jesus..or a thread like these where we can share the ideas of our faith or an aetheist would ask why do i believe in God?...then i don't see any reason why i shouldnt...in fact brother jcboy a muslim istoryan invited me to visit him in their mosque..as i was curious why he embraced Islam.and i have been blessed by His faith in Allah..and if given a chance to share about my Jesus?then i would

  2. #1502

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    diba dapat unta the "Truth" of this Lord of yours dapat has no social, cultural, racial boundaries diba?

    or basing nag conflict na ang imong scriptures or imo huna2x unsa imo tubag?

    ok ra take ur time u have all eternity

    you're right bro, it doesn't. the Christian faith is for everyone.
    status,race,culture is not an issue.but Love and respect are far more greater than sharing itself.
    even Jesus respected those people who chose not to follow Him..
    and His examples is at our best interest.

  3. #1503

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    I dont agree with it. The truth is we are blind from the truth coz our relationship with God was broken when Adam/Eve transgressed. In reality, we have this deep longing for a perfect world...we may call it heaven or paradise, etc.
    So right now you are equating innocence with blindness.. gosh!

    Thought of the day:

    "The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."
    --Ferdinand Magellan

  4. #1504

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    So right now you are equating innocence with blindness.. gosh!

    Thought of the day:

    "The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."
    --Ferdinand Magellan
    hi bro the book of Isaiah was written thousands of years older than magellan
    and it stated that the earth is round..
    Isaiah 40:22 ""He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth
    and if i'm not mistaken wasnt it science who qouted that the earth was a flat disk?
    if magellan heard that from the church then i dont know what kind of theology they teach...
    or that magellan qoutation was just a hoax..it could be the thought of the day but difinitely not truth of the day.

    and to add a bit, this bible verse says that the earth is floating in space..

    Job 26:7
    He is stretching out the north over the empty place,
    Hanging the earth upon nothing;

    how would Job know in his time that earth is just floating in space?well yeah there's an orbit...but literally, it is floating...
    It was not until some 400 years ago from our present time did we even begin to understand about gravity and how it holds the planets in place. Job is like the great great great great...grandfather in age of Sir Isaac Newton who discovered gravity
    Last edited by noy; 07-26-2012 at 10:14 PM.

  5. #1505

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    I cannot kill my child when a deity asks me to,
    I cannot kill a woman who has touched my genitals,
    I cannot not shave my face with a razor,
    I cannot even think of putting Ethiopia or any country to the sword,
    I cannot dare to curse children who make fun of me when I'm bald and send 2 bears to kill them,
    I cannot think of praying for all the first borns of those related to my enemy to die,
    I cannot let a mob rape my daughters so angels could be safe,
    I cannot curse my one of my sons to be slaves to his brothers,
    I cannot stop making love to my girlfriend,
    I cannot kill a woman who has made love to someone of another religion,
    I cannot be happy when I bash an infants head to a rock when he disobeys,

    Dile jd ni nako kaya tanan ang mga gipangbuhat ug mga gisugo sa biblical laws and holy peeps. And as far as I know about sa other major religions, dile pd nako kaya ila laws and stuff, (mg buddhist ta ko, pero anti-vanity mn gd, and im a very vain person heeh).

    so technically, I have no deity or dogma gi sunod, so atheist jd ko, loud and proud. I'm a person who loves his family and and does not force other people to think what i think, I respect their choices. hence, why I let my children choose their own religion. if mag catholic sila, sige go, if trip nila mag scientologist, why not? if mag Deist or Muslim sila, way blema! kung asa sila malipay ug manindot ila self, adto.

  6. #1506

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    there is some type of faith/belief. 1. get reasons then believe, 2. believe then get reasons.
    asa man ka ana?

  7. #1507

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    If only palang noh people would be sincere doing good because for goodness sake and its the right thing to do
    and not because some scriptures told them to do so and for this reward of eternal life in paradise or if not be punished in the lakes of fire in hell.

    Mao na giingon...there's free will bahala na unsa inyu buhaton basta there are consequences to that reward and punishment.
    Mao bitaw nay message sa Bibliya, Ang message sa Bibliya kay Buhata ang Gisugo kay mao nay makaayu sa imung pagkinabuhi ug maoy makaayu sa uban. Ang problema man gud sa uban is Mu Judge sa ka Belief based sa ilang nakita sa gipangbuhat sa mga nagsunod ani - which is ubos ra kaayu. Mas maayu sabton sa ang true message in the Bible before judging it?

    Speaking of Free will, Majority sa mga tawo sa kalibutan nanginabuhi gamit ang Ilang FREE WILL - nya na unsa man ang kalibutan run?
    Last edited by SioDenz; 07-27-2012 at 05:21 PM.

  8. #1508

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    Quote Originally Posted by xericho View Post

    so technically, I have no deity or dogma gi sunod, so atheist jd ko, loud and proud. I'm a person who loves his family and and does not force other people to think what i think, I respect their choices. hence, why I let my children choose their own religion. if mag catholic sila, sige go, if trip nila mag scientologist, why not? if mag Deist or Muslim sila, way blema! kung asa sila malipay ug manindot ila self, adto.
    My biggest question with your ideals is this: What if Other People will exercise their freewill unto you which will VIOLATE your Rights as a Human - Asa man tah mukuha ug basehan para maka sulti tah nga sayop ilang gibuhat? Are we going to use the Ideals of Individuality that we are currently following? OR do we need a universal Law/Guideline that can be applied to All?

  9. #1509

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    same ug concept bai bearish sa naka apil ka ug nice ug payter kaau
    nga business unya naka ganansya ka ug maau so ganhan ka nga maka apil pud ang uban..
    but the main purpose of doing such act should be Love, not for winning additional member of the church group or for pride
    in this concept, what do you want to share? your income or the process or methods that makes you successful and gain big income? would you care to share how in the hell you'd become what you are now and that your life now is super good because of the process and methods you've been thru and that you are super successful now? instead of mouth feeding others that "this is the truth and you've got to believe me, because this is the real truth, i knew this and this is the only truth"...

    give others the benefit of the doubt and let them discover themselves. everybody has it's own perception of things. others maybe differ from yours.

    what benefits you'll get from doing this?

  10. #1510

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    in this concept, what do you want to share? your income or the process or methods that makes you successful and gain big income? would you care to share how in the hell you'd become what you are now and that your life now is super good because of the process and methods you've been thru and that you are super successful now? instead of mouth feeding others that "this is the truth and you've got to believe me, because this is the real truth, i knew this and this is the only truth"...

    what benefits you'll get from doing this?


    nice argument baiof course there should be facts and testimonies, and most of all consideration..
    aside from the fact that being a Christian we must share the faith to others, the reason why i am doing this is because
    i used to lead a very rebelious life and i don't want anybody going through what i went through..seeing kids today doing exactyly the things that i did.others are even doing much worse. the life i lead didn't stop until i met Christ.the Christian faith has opened my compassionate side which i thought i didn't have..Christ has changed my life.
    and that is my truth and testimony, and no i am not forcing anybody to accept Christ like i did.
    but for the sake of those who are seeking the truth in the Christian faith, for the sake of those people who are like me..i will continue to share about Jesus
    that they may at least come to know that there is an option..that there is this God we can hopr for.

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