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  1. #141

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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    only true Christian will fulfill this prophesy and Jesus never told that false christian will fulfill this or different branches of Christian. There is only one true christian in apostle times there is no branches. so True Christian must fulfill this. one of the mark of true christian is preaching the good news of the kingdom which is why Jesus also came here. Matthew 4:12; 9:35-38; Luke 4:42-44; 8:1-3; Mark 1:14,15; Acts 20:25

    Btw do you know what is the Good News of the Kingdom?

    (Matthew 28:19, 20)
    19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

    every disciples are doing their part as Christian or followers of Christ. if Jesus make disciples so as his followers must do today, just like his disciples before has accomplished.
    Dili nalang natu e prolong ang homily ug agony sa pag explain brad, in other words kelangan ang inyo church ra gyud ang gihulat nga mu maka penetrate inyo gospel sa entire world bago mubalik ang Ginoo. Am I right? or Am I correct?

  2. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    the gospel is still foreign to some muslims/hindus/buddhists bro because it is illegal to freely preach in some countries. Even in Christendom, dili ka makaingon nga tanang nagclaim as Christians nakadungog na sa tinuod nga gospel ni Jesus Christ. wala man gani kasabot kasagaran unsa nang gospel. hahahah. even diri sa istorya.
    Mao ba? Therefore useless ra gihapon diay ang EWTN, TBN, Hope Channel, ang Dating Daan, INC TV, 700 Club ug uban pa? Their signal is all over the globe. so you mean na kelangan tanan maminaw sa pulong sa inyo Ginoo bago mubalik sa KrisTo?
    What if they refuse to listen? dili nalang jud mubalik si Lourd because of that reason?

  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    We don't preach confusion but enlightenment of the scriptures. Its not a surprise that you are confused since the RC foundations and pillars are based on contradictions and conjectures of the scriptures and tradition.

    One reason:

    Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
    Revelation 18:4
    Protestant CULTS are getting divided every day. In fact, 7 new false churches are being formed every week usually as a result of doctrinal differences among the charlatans heading these cults. In fact, there are more than 30,000 different protestant cults claiming that each of them knows the bible better than the other. yet each has a certain disagreement with each other at one point in the Bible. Some worship Christ while some actually DON'T.

    Main reason is, each of these CULTS masquerading as churches want to manipulate the Bible for their own agenda. Result? CONFUSION.

    I have two friends before who are baptists but each belong to different sects. Each of them profess to be Christians yet, dili cla pwede maka attend ug service to the other church because of some doctrinal differences daw.

    Compare it to the Catholic Church. Wherever you are in the world you can attend the service because we are not confused. We only teach one doctrine and we defend it because it was believed and taught by the apostles. Of course, there would be Catholics who would question some teachings of the church (mainly because dili agree sa ilang personal agenda/preference) but that did not divide us at all.


    Christ guaranteed us of just ONE Church, not a divided Church.

    The Split of A Mega Protestant Church | econke

  4. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Mao ba? Therefore useless ra gihapon diay ang EWTN, TBN, Hope Channel, ang Dating Daan, INC TV, 700 Club ug uban pa? Their signal is all over the globe. so you mean na kelangan tanan maminaw sa pulong sa inyo Ginoo bago mubalik sa KrisTo?
    What if they refuse to listen? dili nalang jud mubalik si Lourd because of that reason?
    Apil ko ha, from what i understand sa Bible. Before mubalik ang Ginoo, ma spread na sa tibuok kalibutan ang Bibliya. It doesnt mean 100% ha kay naa may maabtan sa pagbalik nga wala pa kabasa. and also, Spread doesnt mean Gidawat na nila ang Bibliya - its just nga hatagan ug Chance or hatagan ug opportunity ang the rest sa kalibutan to know and read. Pero ang choice ila ghapon basta naa na sila opportunity to read or hear.

    Naa man guy mga lugar nga wala pa kaabot ang Pulong sa Bibliya, kana mga Nomads sa africa ba run or kana sa Jungles or nasud nga bawal ang bibliya. So ang Purpose ana is ipaabot nila para if ganahan sila pwedi sila mubasa.

    So kanang imung gipang mention na mga channel usa na sa mga Medium to spread the Christian faith. Labi na if muabot na sa mga lugar nga wa pa juy nakabati ug teachings sa Kristianismo.

  5. #145

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadWolf View Post
    Protestant CULTS are getting divided every day. In fact, 7 new false churches are being formed every week usually as a result of doctrinal differences among the charlatans heading these cults. In fact, there are more than 30,000 different protestant cults claiming that each of them knows the bible better than the other. yet each has a certain disagreement with each other at one point in the Bible. Some worship Christ while some actually DON'T.

    Main reason is, each of these CULTS masquerading as churches want to manipulate the Bible for their own agenda. Result? CONFUSION.

    I have two friends before who are baptists but each belong to different sects. Each of them profess to be Christians yet, dili cla pwede maka attend ug service to the other church because of some doctrinal differences daw.

    Compare it to the Catholic Church. Wherever you are in the world you can attend the service because we are not confused. We only teach one doctrine and we defend it because it was believed and taught by the apostles. Of course, there would be Catholics who would question some teachings of the church (mainly because dili agree sa ilang personal agenda/preference) but that did not divide us at all.


    Christ guaranteed us of just ONE Church, not a divided Church.

    The Split of A Mega Protestant Church | econke
    The division is called Religion Not the same as the church that Jesus Mentioned. Ang Church nga gitukod ni Kristo naa na sa Bibliya, Jesus Did not create a Religion. So kining mga Grupo karun is called Religion - claiming that they are the true follower of the Church established by Jesus here on earth.

  6. #146

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Mao ba? Therefore useless ra gihapon diay ang EWTN, TBN, Hope Channel, ang Dating Daan, INC TV, 700 Club ug uban pa? Their signal is all over the globe. so you mean na kelangan tanan maminaw sa pulong sa inyo Ginoo bago mubalik sa KrisTo?
    What if they refuse to listen? dili nalang jud mubalik si Lourd because of that reason?
    Better ask any muslim who is from middle east kung nakadungog naba sila about the gospel of Jesus Christ.
    If they refuse to listen dili nana namo problema as long as wev obeyed to what Jesus CHrist commands. Bisan ikaw karon nga nakadungog na about sa gospel and yet you insist and refuse to listen, imo nanang tulobagon sa ginoo dili amoa. okay?

  7. #147

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    ^^ ana jud na bai kay naa silay balaod which forbids them to listen to it (or something of a sort). Diri gani sa istorya naa tay balaod to respect each others religion, daghan gani ang WALA kasabot? wa guro kabasa sa forum rules..

  8. #148

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Apil ko ha, from what i understand sa Bible. Before mubalik ang Ginoo, ma spread na sa tibuok kalibutan ang Bibliya. It doesnt mean 100% ha kay naa may maabtan sa pagbalik nga wala pa kabasa. and also, Spread doesnt mean Gidawat na nila ang Bibliya - its just nga hatagan ug Chance or hatagan ug opportunity ang the rest sa kalibutan to know and read. Pero ang choice ila ghapon basta naa na sila opportunity to read or hear.

    Naa man guy mga lugar nga wala pa kaabot ang Pulong sa Bibliya, kana mga Nomads sa africa ba run or kana sa Jungles or nasud nga bawal ang bibliya. So ang Purpose ana is ipaabot nila para if ganahan sila pwedi sila mubasa.

    So kanang imung gipang mention na mga channel usa na sa mga Medium to spread the Christian faith. Labi na if muabot na sa mga lugar nga wa pa juy nakabati ug teachings sa Kristianismo.
    Amen. that's the point of this verse brod. (Matthew 24:14) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

  9. #149

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadWolf View Post
    Protestant CULTS are getting divided every day. In fact, 7 new false churches are being formed every week usually as a result of doctrinal differences among the charlatans heading these cults. In fact, there are more than 30,000 different protestant cults claiming that each of them knows the bible better than the other. yet each has a certain disagreement with each other at one point in the Bible. Some worship Christ while some actually DON'T.

    Main reason is, each of these CULTS masquerading as churches want to manipulate the Bible for their own agenda. Result? CONFUSION.

    I have two friends before who are baptists but each belong to different sects. Each of them profess to be Christians yet, dili cla pwede maka attend ug service to the other church because of some doctrinal differences daw.

    Compare it to the Catholic Church. Wherever you are in the world you can attend the service because we are not confused. We only teach one doctrine and we defend it because it was believed and taught by the apostles. Of course, there would be Catholics who would question some teachings of the church (mainly because dili agree sa ilang personal agenda/preference) but that did not divide us at all.


    Christ guaranteed us of just ONE Church, not a divided Church.

    The Split of A Mega Protestant Church | econke
    Nope you are blind to what are happening in order to corrupt protestant churches today. Most of them are joining the Ecumenical movement of the RC. This means RC and corrupt Protestants are realizing something, that they have all the same traditions and doctrines after all.

    Unity among Christians

    Since the ecumenical movement was initiated by Rome at the Vatican II Council, Christianity is striving to bring unity among its denominations. Unfortunately, for this to happen, Bible-believing Christians are compromising on the very doctrines their denominations were built upon.

    Protestants are questioning the validity of the separation between Catholicism and Protestantism. Rome's goals are being realized. Through the ideas of Catholic thinkers in society, Protestants are coming to believe that they are not different or special in any way, but that all religions are one under the spiritual leadership of the Pope. Protestants have lost their identity and the reason for their protest in the first place.

    The Catholic Church has not made any concessions in its rites and traditions, but is instead drawing the Protestant Church into its ways. A clear example of this is the Catholic Church’s introduction of Sunday rather than the Saturday Sabbath.

    Read about the Catholic and Protestant unity that is already in motion around the world:

    Lutheran Church:
    The Lutheran Church and Rome | Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification

    American Evangelicals:
    American Evangelicals | Reunion with Rome

    South African Churches:
    South African Churches | Reunion with Catholicism
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 07-03-2012 at 03:50 PM.

  10. #150

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    Unity is Not Uniformity

    Unity in Faith of GOD does Not Mean Uniformity of Religion or Sect.

    Jesus Converted the Unbelievers in the Name of The Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost - NOT in the name of a Religion or sect.

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