Are All “Christians” Christian?

[SioDenz]

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I wouldn't do that because it is clearly written sa atong Forum Rules (#2, if i am not mistaken). & i try to abide by our rules as much as possible. Why create a venue to hate, when our teachings did not say so? IF ever a thread will start, here's whats goign to happen, initially it is ok, but it will end being closed. coz naay moquestion about practices & challenges, etc then finally pesonal attacks. it is inevitable. Like what i have said, faith is a personal journey, to force others to believe it will be a complete catastrophy. why i said this? because daghan na kaayo ang mga religion nga naa sa dan nagpreach, but pila ra ang ang niconvert? (well, laing topic nasad ni, whew)

Posting some questions sa uban paractices doesnt mean Hate.
Wa man sad cguroy Personal attack ngari sa ako lang nabasa. Question about religious doctrines is Not a personal attack.
As the Bible says, Do not question God but challenge your religious leaders.

Talking about converts, dis-a man diay na gikan ang mga Born Again? JIL, etc.. di bah mga bag-o raman sila na himu nga grupo?

Well, maybe you can call it generalization, pero kabalo ta nga naay truth behind ani. Magdepende man gud na sa ginunsa pagpangutana & sa nangutana sa question bai. if ang nangutana gusto jud makat-on (without hidden motives/agenda), then dili jud na kadudahan ang reaction niya. But if panglawgaw ra ang pangutana meaning naa na syay "READY"rebutal, kana bang prepared for a debate rather than an honest questioning & in REAL search for knowledge, aw mao ni ang akong gipuntarya. Bashing a religion is clearly not the aim of this thread isn't it? your comment about catholics is undeniably bashing the RC religion. it was never about in search for the truth. Believe me when i say this, NAA sad koy mga question about my religion, but i dont go here to address it.you know why? kay Di jud na nako makita ang tubag diri. hypocracy is everywhere (labaw pa sa internet), why should i look for answers sa net when in fact we dont even use our real names here. nobody really knows our real intentions here. Why would you trust someone you don't even know?

Di man jud kalikayan ang ma overboard usahay pero as long as DILI lang Personal attack, If within Doctrines lan para nko OK raman guro. Di man ang Ginoo atung gi question, ang mga Tawo man nga ni claim mga Kristianio sila.

So if para nimu Internet doesnt have answer to your question, it doesnt follow ang uban dapat musunod sa imung Ideolohiya. Lain-lain man tag pamaagi ug pagtuo so dapat dili mu generalize.

[Eve's Apple Project]

@ siodenz: naa sad kay point bai. people do get carried away sometimes (& very easily in forums). mao sad nay rason why daghan gihapon ang nailad og mailad pa sa internet. naa jud Tay daghan kaayong maayong answers nga makuha sa internet bai, if gustohon jud. But daghan sad kaayo nga misleading nga answers or maybe half-true (without proper research). bisan si bai "wikipedia" og si bai "google" naay problema ana. that is why we need to be very careful (& responsible) on what we say/post here kay naay uban nga himoon ning sudanan sa ilang pagtoo. I was taught bai nga we should pray to the holy spirit to guide us Before we study the bible or even talk about it.

[SioDenz]

@ siodenz: naa sad kay point bai. people do get carried away sometimes (& very easily in forums). mao sad nay rason why daghan gihapon ang nailad og mailad pa sa internet. naa jud Tay daghan kaayong maayong answers nga makuha sa internet bai, if gustohon jud. But daghan sad kaayo nga misleading nga answers or maybe half-true (without proper research). bisan si bai "wikipedia" og si bai "google" naay problema ana. that is why we need to be very careful (& responsible) on what we say/post here kay naay uban nga himoon ning sudanan sa ilang pagtoo. I was taught bai nga we should pray to the holy spirit to guide us Before we study the bible or even talk about it.

I agree anang carried away kay kitang mabiktima jud ana
Thats why mao nay Pitful sa tanang so-called Christian, kana muabot anang point nga mahimung Hypocrite. Mao sad nay ako paningkamotan di ko muabot ana.

And yes, understanding the word of God in the Bible is a gift from god tru the Holy Spirit. So we should Pray for it.

Hope di tah ma carried away

[Eve's Apple Project]

sorry, double post

[King]

MATTHEW 24:14
“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”

[KlaytoN]

MATTHEW 24:14
“And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”

The gospel already saturated the entire planet by different branches of Christianity, but it seems the end is nowhere in sight.. Maybe there's some undiscovered people tribes inside volcanoes or under da sea they also need to be preached..

[heliopause]

The gospel already saturated the entire planet by different branches of Christianity, but it seems the end is nowhere in sight.. Maybe there's some undiscovered people tribes inside volcanoes or under da sea they also need to be preached..

the gospel is still foreign to some muslims/hindus/buddhists bro because it is illegal to freely preach in some countries. Even in Christendom, dili ka makaingon nga tanang nagclaim as Christians nakadungog na sa tinuod nga gospel ni Jesus Christ. wala man gani kasabot kasagaran unsa nang gospel. hahahah. even diri sa istorya.

[King]

The gospel already saturated the entire planet by different branches of Christianity, but it seems the end is nowhere in sight.. Maybe there's some undiscovered people tribes inside volcanoes or under da sea they also need to be preached..

only true Christian will fulfill this prophesy and Jesus never told that false christian will fulfill this or different branches of Christian. There is only one true christian in apostle times there is no branches. so True Christian must fulfill this. one of the mark of true christian is preaching the good news of the kingdom which is why Jesus also came here. Matthew 4:12; 9:35-38; Luke 4:42-44; 8:1-3; Mark 1:14,15; Acts 20:25

Btw do you know what is the Good News of the Kingdom?

(Matthew 28:19, 20)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

every disciples are doing their part as Christian or followers of Christ. if Jesus make disciples so as his followers must do today, just like his disciples before has accomplished.

[Kenshiro]

@kenshiro

kana tanang issue sa katoliko dugay na ng basura nga nga circulate sa internet... kaklaro ana nga copy and paste dili na official document or web site..mao nay gitawag nga error sa logic nga "strawman argument" kay ni atake ka sa dili claim sa katoliko..

tan awa sa catechism of the catholic of church ug lument gentium as an official document dili gikan sa kalaban..kung sakto ba na imo gi pang copy and paste..fyi I was a seminarian ug annoying ayo nga kabalo pa mo more than sa mga clergy..dire ra ko taman...

Catechism of the Catholic Church

Congregation for the Doctrine of the faith responses to some questions regarding certain aspects of the Doctrine on the Church

Question: Did the Second Vatican council change the catholic doctrine on the Church?

The Second Vatican Council neither changed nor intended to change this doctrine, rather it developed, deepened and more fully explained it. This was exactly what John XXIII said at the beginning of the council. Paul VI affirmed it and commented in the act of promulgating the Constitution Lumen gentium: “There is no better comment to make than to say that this promulgation really changes nothing of the traditional doctrine. What Christ willed, we also will. What was, still is. What the Church has taught down through the centuries, we also teach. In simple terms that which was assumed, is now explicit; that which was uncertain, us now clarified; that which was meditated upon, discussed and sometimes argued over, is now put together in one clear formulation” (Vatican.va)

The Catholic Church brings back indulgences

These days, you can get a deal on anything. Even salvation! Pope Benedict has announced that his faithful can once again pay the Catholic Church to ease their way through Purgatory and into the Gates of Heaven.

Never mind that Martin Luther fired up the Reformation because of them: Plenary Indulgences are back.

The New York Times reports that even though the church officially broke with the age-old practice -- you do something good, and the Church will help absolve you -- in 1960, the Pope has quietly reintroduced it. The Catholic Church had technically banned the practice of selling indulgences as long ago as 1567.

As the Times points out, a monetary donation wouldn't go amiss toward earning an indulgence. It writes, "charitable contributions, combined with other acts, can help you earn one." You can even buy indulgences this way for loved ones who are already dead, greasing their way to Heaven by doing something for the Church here on Earth.

Why would the Catholic Church agree to this reversal? It wouldn't be the harsh economy, would it, or the church's fading influence? Not at all, says a Brooklyn bishop. "Because there is sin in the world," he told the newspaper.

Reformation? What Reformation?

Buy your way to Heaven! The Catholic Church brings back indulgences - DailyFinance

So the question dugay ni gi basura? No they never have changed.
Before If they use the inquisition through torture and death now they are using different method to eliminate Protestantism it is through infiltration of the Protestant churches. That is why we have so many corrupted unbiblical Protestant churches today.

[Kenshiro]

@ KENSHIRO ...

How did you end up with that article , formulation or was it copy pasted from somewhere else ? If its the latter which I am sure of , what are your links or sources ?

If it was your own writing and formulation , what are your basis of coming up with questions like these ? Is it about " out of CONFUSION or SEARCH for ENLIGHTMENT " ?

Just wondering because these CONFUSION or SEARCH for ENLIGHTMENT of yours existed sa panahon pa ni Martin Luther , with the rebuttal sa panahon ra pod ni Martin Luther even prior to his expiration .

I am only trying to emphasize here what make sense when we try to create a discussion because of 2 reasons , baha wna man gud ni even sa panahon pa sa SnO and second , if you are industrious enough to locate questions in the net , you will definitely locate the answers themselves too from the very medium you are using when looking for this querries . trust me on that and it is not even biblical .

Hehehehe ... gamay na pasensya lang sa pagpangita sa tubag so you wont waste time in asking .

If it was your own writing and formulation , what are your basis of coming up with questions like these ? Is it about " out of CONFUSION or SEARCH for ENLIGHTMENT " ?

Just wondering because these CONFUSION or SEARCH for ENLIGHTMENT of yours existed sa panahon pa ni Martin Luther , with the rebuttal sa panahon ra pod ni Martin Luther even prior to his expiration .

We don't preach confusion but enlightenment of the scriptures. Its not a surprise that you are confused since the RC foundations and pillars are based on contradictions and conjectures of the scriptures and tradition.

One reason:

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;
Revelation 18:4