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    Mao ni batasan ug kultura nato mga pinoy, dali ra makalimot ug dali ra mu forgive and forget..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Mao ni batasan ug kultura nato mga pinoy, dali ra makalimot ug dali ra mu forgive and forget..
    uo kalimot sad ang mga tao unsay situation under Cory. Daghan violations sa human rights under Cory's term oi, There were plenty of extrajudicial killings then. many imparted to Cory's Total War policy for her counter-insurgency efforts... Instability, infrastructure problems, et al you name it. Pero unsa may mahinumduman sa mga tao atong higayuna? "It was all good, because of People Power". Ka daghan rag ga nostalgia atong panahona. That's amnesia.

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    Very interesting topic...

    Made me open my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    uo kalimot sad ang mga tao unsay situation under Cory. Daghan violations sa human rights under Cory's term oi, There were plenty of extrajudicial killings then. many imparted to Cory's Total War policy for her counter-insurgency efforts... Instability, infrastructure problems, et al you name it. Pero unsa may mahinumduman sa mga tao atong higayuna? "It was all good, because of People Power". Ka daghan rag ga nostalgia atong panahona. That's amnesia.
    Nah mao na dinha dakong sayop imo argument. Do you expect a culture of corruption and human rights abuses to be eradicated in an instant? We're not talking of magic here. Kay ngano when the new admin came to power in 1986, were all abusive elements and officers of the PC and the INP immediately replaced? I'm not sayin that Cory is perfect in any sense, maybe you were expecting her as the savior or god.. hehehe..

    And by the way to those anti-Cory or anti-Aquino istoryans here who always label Cory as leftist or left leaning, then you have your own kind here rebutting your beliefs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Nah mao na dinha dakong sayop imo argument. Do you expect a culture of corruption and human rights abuses to be eradicated in an instant? We're not talking of magic here. Kay ngano when the new admin came to power in 1986, were all abusive elements and officers of the PC and the INP immediately replaced? I'm not sayin that Cory is perfect in any sense, maybe you were expecting her as the savior or god.. hehehe..

    And by the way to those anti-Cory or anti-Aquino istoryans here who always label Cory as leftist or left leaning, then you have your own kind here rebutting your beliefs..
    Policy gani NIYA, it's not about the officers or subordinates within CoC. It's the POLICY of Cory herself. The atrocities in the Philippines is something of relative consistency. It takes leadership to change the status quo, something which Cory does not have--that's why nothing changed. The resolution of the Mendiola massacre could have been her finest moment in the issue of human rights abuses, by being firm and holding someone accountable and give them the full-extent of the law, instead what happened? She wussed herself out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rans23 View Post
    Wala mai dili corrupt nila bai, ang ako-a lang gyud naa koy makita sa akong buhis..tarong nga karsada, tulay, edipisyo, nagka da-iyang planta og power supply, mao nay nahatag ni marcos saona.
    In exchange for what? The last years of Marcos saw our national debt of over $300 million in the 60s soar to over $25 billion in the 80s. That's debt you and I are still paying to this day.God knows how much of that money went into Makoy, Imelda and Ver's pockets.

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    regarding anang abuso, isolated cases ra siguro na kung i kompara nimo sa tibook populasyon sa pilipinas. layo rana sa pangpangabuso sa tsina sa ilahang mga katawhan saona, pero tan-awa karon ang china bolahan kaayo tungod sa ka maayo mo disiplina. liman ka anang 1 offspring per couple, balaod nila kay balaod jud dili kay pareha sa pilipinas nga gihimo ra nga suhestiyon og gamiton ang balaod lutsanan sa mga dato.
    It's not the number of incidents that matters. As someone old enough to remember Martial Law, it's the palpable fear of government, of the police and military who are supposed to protect you, not take away your rights. If you so much at look at the police the wrong way, dakong chansa masulod kag barrel isagol ug semento. And yes, some of my family's friends probably met their end this way. Mawala lang kalit imung mga migo, walay pahibalo, ingon ana ang scenario sa una.

    We take so much of what we do today for granted wa mo kibalo unsa kapa-it para sa uban ang panahon ni Makoy. Many of us think, "Sus, kung si Marcos pa toh ron, asenso na ta." Who are they kidding? Marcos was no Lee Kuan Yew.

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    this topic reminded me of my polsci prof in college when he talked about marcos' regime. i don't know ha, but he said our country was advancing during his time but the bombings and communist takeover might be his idea for proclaiming martial law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naxi85 View Post
    this topic reminded me of my polsci prof in college when he talked about marcos' regime. i don't know ha, but he said our country was advancing during his time but the bombings and communist takeover might be his idea for proclaiming martial law.
    that was Marcos' grounds for martial law. During his administration it was the height of communist infiltration in Southeast Asia. The communist had began to bear down on South Vietnam, the Khmer Rouge had began its taken over in Cambodia, the Federation of Malaya (and the UK) fought a brutal war with Malayan communist, while Indonesia was almost taken over by communists (until they decided to purge them out of the political scene, and by purge I mean massacre--from estimates of 500,000 to a million). These collectively inspired the First Quarter Storm in the Philippines--Marcos had to act else the communist movement would become stronger by the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naxi85 View Post
    this topic reminded me of my polsci prof in college when he talked about marcos' regime. i don't know ha, but he said our country was advancing during his time but the bombings and communist takeover might be his idea for proclaiming martial law.
    Advancing jud? if advancing pa maka kita unta ug paagi pagpalig-on sa Arm Forces para ma Sumpo ang Comunismo nga DILI mu declare ug Martial Law. Ayaw padala ana imung Proferssor kay wa cguro na siyay palmilya gi salvage sa mg PC panahon sa Martial Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    that was Marcos' grounds for martial law. During his administration it was the height of communist infiltration in Southeast Asia. The communist had began to bear down on South Vietnam, the Khmer Rouge had began its taken over in Cambodia, the Federation of Malaya (and the UK) fought a brutal war with Malayan communist, while Indonesia was almost taken over by communists (until they decided to purge them out of the political scene, and by purge I mean massacre--from estimates of 500,000 to a million). These collectively inspired the First Quarter Storm in the Philippines--Marcos had to act else the communist movement would become stronger by the day.
    So inutil si Marcos pagsumpo sa Komunismo bisag Advancing iyang Gobyerno? advancing man kaha atung Arm Forces atu nga time nganu kinahanglan paman mu declare ug Martial law? Nganu wa man lagi nailog sa Komunismo ang Atung nasud sa mga succeeding Presidents nga nagka Pobre man atung nasud anang mga panahuni ug WEAK pang Military?

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