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    huwati lang nya ninyu if ma Presidente nko, sulbad lagi na tanan problema..

    Dont forget to vote ha.

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    @tsunade

    Tnx Bro!

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    What you have done to help fixing our country < What can you criticize about our country

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    lisod jud ang pilipinas oi, daghan supakero daghan feeling maayo. daghan kaayo naa sa government posts nga feeling ngilngig na kaayo. dapat unta paninduton atong education system, focus ta sa bag-ong tubo, if ang ginikanan di kamao mo-padako sa anak, i seminar. daghan na kaayo mga bata ron criminal na.

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    sa kadaghan sa problema sa pilipinas, galibog ko unsa pa ako ipuno. ako sa ilista ha, mo balik ra ko puhon, pero di lng ta mag away ninyo kay usa baya na sa rason nganong ingon ani ang pilipinas. gamayng butang lalisan. makalimtan na lng unsa atong tumong.

    usa pud ako nabantayan, daghan man naay nindot ideas, ngilngig kaayo, pero naay nagmention diri nga ang majority sa pinoy mga dili edukado or wala ka eskwela (naa man gud ko mga kaila wala ka eskwela pero eduado man) so ug naa tay mga idea atong ipasabot sa masa, di sila kasabot kay kasagran english man gud. example 'no jaywalking' ang bisaya nga wala ka adto ug skwelahan wala ka-sabot! ngano man lagi uban nasod nga ilang mga signs multi lingual man? ana pud unta ato, kay mura ta ug ga market ug product atong target market mga bisya pero atong marketing peripheral ininsik.

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    puro ra gihapon mga haciendero, cronies og ma kurakot ang leaders
    media is bent on promoting ignorance and foolishness to the masses
    outspoken citizens who speak out don't get the proper forum to voice their opinions and if they do, they get killed/threatened
    and in the same vein, there are way too many people and way too many uneducated citizens
    pinoy crab mentality and the lack of unity among filipinos
    the church of the philippines practice very backward methods and are more self serving than God-serving
    unresolved muslim insurgency in most of mindanao
    national language is tagalog but not everybody speaks it fluently

  7. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronson View Post
    hehehe
    dili gyud siya mu-undang

    sige explain nalang kuno kung nganung bati gyud kaayo na... ug nganu i-eliminate gyud totally ang social programs kay para nimo mao ang cause sa budget problems sa gobyerno.... para nimo murag sakto na ang pagpadagan sa mga public officials sa ato gobyerno kay conclude naman ka nga social programs gyud ang reason nga sige ug pangwarta nya sige gihapon ka pobre ang ato gobyerno. Murag sure kaayo ka nga programs nalang ang sayop ug dili an nga nagpadagan niini.
    Palihug nalang ko explain in detail para kasabot tanan o bisan ako lang.... medyo slow ko.

    Let us fix this country. Daghan ayuhunon ug dili siguro posible nga usa ka pamaagi lang para maayo. Daghan dapat involved kay walay mr. know-it-all nga maka solve ani with a single plan. Ako ra sad nuon nang pagtan-aw. Pwede ra kaayo ka dili mu-too.

    last na ni uy. labad. hehehe
    OT: you know, it is common courtesy in blog sites to refrain from using emoticons unnecessarily... and, you can stop replying anytime you want....

    On T:
    Gravely mistaken... I have never hinted in any way that our government right now is in the paradigm of "saktong pagpadagan." BUT, you are right when you said that through these social programs is where the government OFFICIALS can profit, afterall they are just like you and me.

    You are stuck on the technical issues of the way the government is performing... shallow and endlessly confusing if we don't try to tackle the philosophical aspect of the existence and the purpose of government.

    The government is the collective force of individual rights, to ensure that their rights will not be violated. What are the natural rights of men? The inalienable rights of life, liberty and property precede all man made laws. They exist first and the recognition of their existence propelled man to charter laws protecting these rights.

    Man has two options to sustain his life. Work endlessly to exploit the natural resources of the earth and reap the harvest of his labor. Or, live on the harvest of other men. This is the start of plunder, and the purpose of the government is to stop plunder, to make it more risky for other men to violate rights of others.

    Social programs has always been the enemy of a free society. It is plunder in the name of charity. It makes men seek the help of the government to provide for their needs, to grant them favors, to alleviate their condition. And the people in government, very sincere in their willingness to help, falls into a trap, providing welfare while turning a blind eye on the expense of other people. There is a biblical quotation, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." That is the summary of the social programs.

    The principle you will accept, if ever you approve social program, is: using the wealth of the honest laborers to give welfare for the lazy.... you penalize success and reward the unproductive... for the higher the success an individual can achieve, the more his tax rate will be... It is regressive in human intellect.. Is their a limit to the amount of welfare given? nope, because having one will be unpopular. Social programs make life harder for everyone, it is counter productive. You don;t measure the effectiveness of the program by its intended goals, but rather by the actual results!

    What are the actual results? Still more poverty, still more needy. We have given incentives on people staying poor by making a promise to these people that we give them something even if they don't want to be productive... If you are an honest laborer, would you want the government to increase your tax rate to 30%? how about 40%? How about 50%? Unlikely? You would consent if the government will give you something in return, right? You think that is ideal? Look at US and EU nations... on the verge of bankruptcy... What is the first thing they tried to cut to save them from bankruptcy? Social programs.... But people are already dependent and it cause great violence from the people...

    Social programs feed from the wealth of all for the benefit of selected few. It is not charity, it is a redistribution of wealth. And every transaction per charity given, a "commision" will be subtracted by the government in legal and illegal means. your 100 peso "contribution" will be only less than 50% in charity and 50% operational cost in giving that charity. Practical?


    Huge deficits by social programs cause unseen effects and it will be hard to relate them to the source of the problem. Do you complain increase in prices? Do you think the government jack up those rates? Do you think the businesses jack up those prices? If i am a businessman, i want to keep my prices low... they increase because of inflation, the government devalued your wealth to pay for the debt the government has caused. In principle, that is thievery.. But that entire process is unseen, you wont blame the government for that.

    Huge deficits decreases purchasing power. Obviously, with huge deficits, the government is forced to inflate money supply, dissolving the value of your money gradually. If you have 100K deposited in the bank, and the inflation rate is 10%...then your money will lose 10%.. What if the inlfation rate is 50%? you only have 50K in real value, but still 100K in nominal value... Is it possible for inflation rates to jump so high? yes.... some countries have experienced 20,000% inflation rate, wiping the wealth of the entire citizens...

    If there was no social programs the government will be withheld into national defense, upholding natural rights, and enforcing contracts... the operational costs of the government can be cut upto70%... and the majority of the wealth of the nation will be reverted back to the citizens from the government. Inlfation rate will be negligible. Prices will eventually subside to real market levels.

    Walay Mr. Know it all. That;s why i advocate for complete separation of the State, Church, Economy and private lives of the people. the government is trying to be a mr know it all. Let's give the responsibility of living their own lives back to the people. Let them succeed and fail under their own power. No special favors, no special interests groups...just in a state of neutrality and act only when there is the presence of injustice.

    The problem of this country is a philosophical one, and we need a philosophical solution before we can have a technical solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    OT: you know, it is common courtesy in blog sites to refrain from using emoticons unnecessarily... and, you can stop replying anytime you want....

    On T:
    Gravely mistaken... I have never hinted in any way that our government right now is in the paradigm of "saktong pagpadagan." BUT, you are right when you said that through these social programs is where the government OFFICIALS can profit, afterall they are just like you and me.

    You are stuck on the technical issues of the way the government is performing... shallow and endlessly confusing if we don't try to tackle the philosophical aspect of the existence and the purpose of government.

    The government is the collective force of individual rights, to ensure that their rights will not be violated. What are the natural rights of men? The inalienable rights of life, liberty and property precede all man made laws. They exist first and the recognition of their existence propelled man to charter laws protecting these rights.

    Man has two options to sustain his life. Work endlessly to exploit the natural resources of the earth and reap the harvest of his labor. Or, live on the harvest of other men. This is the start of plunder, and the purpose of the government is to stop plunder, to make it more risky for other men to violate rights of others.

    Social programs has always been the enemy of a free society. It is plunder in the name of charity. It makes men seek the help of the government to provide for their needs, to grant them favors, to alleviate their condition. And the people in government, very sincere in their willingness to help, falls into a trap, providing welfare while turning a blind eye on the expense of other people. There is a biblical quotation, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." That is the summary of the social programs.

    The principle you will accept, if ever you approve social program, is: using the wealth of the honest laborers to give welfare for the lazy.... you penalize success and reward the unproductive... for the higher the success an individual can achieve, the more his tax rate will be... It is regressive in human intellect.. Is their a limit to the amount of welfare given? nope, because having one will be unpopular. Social programs make life harder for everyone, it is counter productive. You don;t measure the effectiveness of the program by its intended goals, but rather by the actual results!

    What are the actual results? Still more poverty, still more needy. We have given incentives on people staying poor by making a promise to these people that we give them something even if they don't want to be productive... If you are an honest laborer, would you want the government to increase your tax rate to 30%? how about 40%? How about 50%? Unlikely? You would consent if the government will give you something in return, right? You think that is ideal? Look at US and EU nations... on the verge of bankruptcy... What is the first thing they tried to cut to save them from bankruptcy? Social programs.... But people are already dependent and it cause great violence from the people...

    Social programs feed from the wealth of all for the benefit of selected few. It is not charity, it is a redistribution of wealth. And every transaction per charity given, a "commision" will be subtracted by the government in legal and illegal means. your 100 peso "contribution" will be only less than 50% in charity and 50% operational cost in giving that charity. Practical?


    Huge deficits by social programs cause unseen effects and it will be hard to relate them to the source of the problem. Do you complain increase in prices? Do you think the government jack up those rates? Do you think the businesses jack up those prices? If i am a businessman, i want to keep my prices low... they increase because of inflation, the government devalued your wealth to pay for the debt the government has caused. In principle, that is thievery.. But that entire process is unseen, you wont blame the government for that.

    Huge deficits decreases purchasing power. Obviously, with huge deficits, the government is forced to inflate money supply, dissolving the value of your money gradually. If you have 100K deposited in the bank, and the inflation rate is 10%...then your money will lose 10%.. What if the inlfation rate is 50%? you only have 50K in real value, but still 100K in nominal value... Is it possible for inflation rates to jump so high? yes.... some countries have experienced 20,000% inflation rate, wiping the wealth of the entire citizens...

    If there was no social programs the government will be withheld into national defense, upholding natural rights, and enforcing contracts... the operational costs of the government can be cut upto70%... and the majority of the wealth of the nation will be reverted back to the citizens from the government. Inlfation rate will be negligible. Prices will eventually subside to real market levels.

    Walay Mr. Know it all. That;s why i advocate for complete separation of the State, Church, Economy and private lives of the people. the government is trying to be a mr know it all. Let's give the responsibility of living their own lives back to the people. Let them succeed and fail under their own power. No special favors, no special interests groups...just in a state of neutrality and act only when there is the presence of injustice.

    The problem of this country is a philosophical one, and we need a philosophical solution before we can have a technical solution.
    mu reply lang ko kay mangayo ko pasaylo sa emoticon.... naanad lang ko sa YM (colon D). Big smile na dapat. sorry kaayo.
    btw, nang lapas ra imong gipanulti sa akong mga paglantaw... kanang murag extreme ra kaayo. Naa ra man sa moderation/controlled state ang ako. Dili man sad ko ganahan anang programs like CCT or mga similar programs. A well thought of programs would promote hard work and innovation from the people rather than the one you mentioned na matapulan sila. Kasabot ko sa imo point pero wala ko diha dapita mao nga dili ta magkasinabot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronson View Post
    mu reply lang ko kay mangayo ko pasaylo sa emoticon.... naanad lang ko sa YM (colon D). Big smile na dapat. sorry kaayo.
    btw, nang lapas ra imong gipanulti sa akong mga paglantaw... kanang murag extreme ra kaayo. Naa ra man sa moderation/controlled state ang ako. Dili man sad ko ganahan anang programs like CCT or mga similar programs. A well thought of programs would promote hard work and innovation from the people rather than the one you mentioned na matapulan sila. Kasabot ko sa imo point pero wala ko diha dapita mao nga dili ta magkasinabot.

    No need to apologize... I will debate with anyone who i think is wrong...its just a natural tendency i share with everyone else...

    There is no "moderate/controlled" social programs... History has shown that all social programs are always abused, not only by corrupt officials, but more by honest and good politicians... Corruption by government officials is only at commision rate levels... the bigger chunk of our economic trouble is from distributing wealth to those who have not earned it...

    Simpolon naku, tagsa-tagsaon:
    1. ganahan ka magbayad sa edukasyon sa laing tao? magbayad sa iyang health? magbayad sa iyang pagkaon? magbyad sa iyang balay? pero ikaw cge trabaho?

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    mga bai mo share sad ko...usa sad anang continuity sa mga projects or visions in general sa nasugdang lider dili mapadayon sa sunod nga admin..sige sugod ug projects walay human human kay ang previous president kontra partido...usa sad ni sa akong nakit-an so far.

    I guess masulbad ning aspetoha kung ang Philippines naay na unified visions labi na sa economiya nga giuyonan sa tanang sector ug partido...then political will and strict implementation ang mopatuman..

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