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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by taga_ipil View Post




    Ang kapitan na si Mauro Balomanga ay napag-alamang itong Marso lang nitong taon naging kapitan ng barko. Nakatakda siyang humarap sa korte sa 19 ng Oktubre.

    Multang umaabot sa P335,000 at isang taong pagkakakulong ang kakaharapin ni Balomanga kapag napatunayan siyang ng korte na nagkasala.

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    The fine of P335,000 is approximately 20 days salary rana sa Capt. tolerable rana kaayo,,,,but 1 year in Jail ang lisud kayahon !!!!
    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-16-2011 at 06:16 PM.

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by likyam View Post
    mor pa, ug diri pa na nahitabo, kutob ra ni storya. kai ang amo foreigner nya dali ra kaayo ATM (ay ta ma) ang kamot sa mga politiko aron matabunan ang kaso.

    mahulog ni nga human error. one thing there is the ship tingai he used is equipped with high tech equipments. foreign ship gud na. and judging by the way the shipments were placed, maklaro kaayo na hakog pinoy kaayo ug kinaiya. kanang ug kutob sa taman masudlan ang sakyanan sudlan bahalag magkauna.

    o di naabtan sa gaba, naunsa na na ron. goodluck na lang sa iya. kay ug capitan siya, di siya dapat mahadlok mawagtangan trabaho kung kabalo siya sa consequences sa iya mabuhat sa kalikupan.

    di dyud na rason ang kawad-on aron mag dinautan.
    Accidents like this will happen if we ignored warnings of unstable weather and we weren't paying attention to what was happening weather-wise around us. learning a valuable lesson in the process: Mother Nature holds all the cards.


    Unfortunately, there are situations where we can find ourselves smack along the path of a line of storms, in which case we'll be hit by one storm after another. This is the worst possible scenario, and one that usually could have been avoided had we done our job as skipper and checked the weather before we headed out.



    Storms of this type are in association with fronts and atmospheric instability, and such information is available in advance at the ship.


    All Commercial Ocean going vessels are well equipped w/ high tech radars, satellite communications and monitoring devices to inform & detect weather conditions etc.etc....and you might be right Sir likyam, human errors perhaps.....


    BUT I beg to disagree w/ your point in pinning down a person just because he is a PINOY maong hakug ug kina iya? I hope you are not a Filipino coz If you are, mo bounce back rana tanan gipanulti nimo diri. I am proud to be a Filipino. Peace be with you!
    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-17-2011 at 01:56 AM.

  3. #63

    Default Re: Filipino captain in NZ sea pollution crisis charged

    Quote Originally Posted by trax View Post
    ang nka aligre ani dili diay cya lisensyado nga kapitan sa barko

    Many people/ seafarers come to believe that just because they've been out in rough water a few times, that they're now "experienced."- Not true.



    Understanding the effects of wind, waves and currents is not an easy subject to master. Waves behave differently under a large variety of different conditions, that's why to get a master, chief mate, 2nd mate, 3rd mate license requires that an applicant prove that they have had a large number of hours under such conditions, that’s why we have to undergo some training/upgrading courses every time were on vacation to update our knowledge in our craft.


    If one is caught w/ fake license he and the manning agency will face the consequences.

  4. #64

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    am just talking my classmates right now who works sa Stolt company.... naa sila karun sa Aussie nag load ug aviation/jet fuel then next port of call is Tauranga NZ nga diin nahitaboan sa maong na sayad na barko.
    karun pa lang daw sa australia na delayed na ila larga kay from day1 nga nag stay sila didto, unta karun larga nila grabe gihimong inspection/survey sa taga port authority, luckily they passed it all mao nga maka larga daw sila samot inig abot na sad nila didto sa NZ... imagine the impact/blow sa maong hitabo, daghan apektado...

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkdave1984 View Post
    mao na natakilid brod kay na grounding nman.. na nasudlan ug tubig dagat mao na natakilid. d ko taga deck taga engine ko.

    Typically, when the captain and his crews loses control of the ship due to bad weather, passengers and cargoes are thrown around, and this can even result in capsizing. The problem is not always the design of the ship, unless proven otherwise but is often a matter of human error.


    Mao gyud ni kanunay e remind sa akong hubby during stormy weather, dili na sya matulog, standby sya on bridge to monitor coz the officers and crews on watch have the tendency to panic.....and regardless of direction, it is necessary to control your ship speed and choose the one speed at which the ship becomes most responsive and controllable.



    Going too fast in a following sea means that you'll fly off the top of one wave and bury the bow into the back side of the next. That's not good, so we need to find the right speed which yields the most comfortable ride while still keeping good control of the ship.


    When the following waves start to get really big, we have only two choices: either we slow down to the appropriate speed, or we have to change direction. On the other hand, we may not end up going in the direction we wish. It then becomes a matter of whether our higher speed makes up for the extra distance we have to travel. Often times it does, making it advantageous to alter course.

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by kok3n View Post
    Agree, as discussed in our Seamanship 1 subject. Just want it to come from a deck officer here in istorya. I hope mam Snowfly can give her comments in this thread..

    Getting caught in this stuff Wind, rain and waves, that goes on for hours, even days is serious, life-threatening stuff thats common to us seafarers.


    Cases such as this, point a problem that we've been long familiar with.... Yet we really don’t know the real score to it...though we have already a hunch. We have several speculations on whos to blame, but the truth lies after a thorough investigation. Shipping/Maritime Jurisprudence must apply.

    I resist the urge to point fingers because ultimately this is a serious issue to seafarers, more so that the crews are Filipinos. We all need some respect in our professions. Wala gyuy maayong laki sa dagat...take my word for it.

    Taking a ship out into open water is a serious business, one that requires a comparable degree of knowledge and skill.

    Mao ming mga seafarers. Dili lalim noh? Unya biay biayon pa jud among profession ug pagka tao ? Peace on earth good will to man. Smile guys!
    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-17-2011 at 01:31 AM.

  7. #67

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    looking at the pics, i dont think so it was jettison, maybe lashing was not that reliable...any news if there was engine or steering trouble? murag lisud man i ground sa open sea....

    for me, it was Force majeure..greek ship lng, so ...still thinking twice..no offense to greek vessels..hehehe

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by *sludge* View Post
    kung container lang hisgutan mga bradier, dli mana mahitabo nga walay cargo planning unya karga lang ug karga kay gi butang nman na sa loading plan kay i arrange mana according asa una i diskarga, dli mana parehas sa uban kargamento sama sa buhos or bulk( dry cargo) nga kung pila ang capacity ma karga kay i karga, or kung sa tanker na ma apektohan ang kargada sa ambient temp. wa lang siguro gyud ni matarong ug lashing/secure ning mga kahona...

    lisud sad kaau ipasangil kung wa pay ibedinsya, huwat lang ta sa imbestigasyon...ang pangutana, asa gkan ang oil?

    By the way *sludge*, were in a chemical tanker ship, mas delikado among kargamento, (health hazzard),,,,, but all I can say is mas nice ang buoyancy sa tankership compared to other ships, mura sad ug submarino kamao sad mo sisid among barko kon abtan ug bad weather. hehehe

    Ma identify dayon ang ship kon gamay ra ang accomodation area ug ga taas lang nga daghan ug pipes and halos naka lubog.
    Since among karga kay naa sulod sa tanks submerge sa dagat and you are right, its subject to temperature maong kon mo gahi we will apply heating process, we have to be very careful w/ everything coz its highly volatile, unlike containers nga e patong patong....and if the distribution of their cargoes is not well planned it would really matter coz their will be a tendency nga ma top heavy.

    Kon maka kita mo ug ship nga ingun ani ug porma like gamay nalang ang color black shown at this particular picture it means were heavy loaded w/ cargoes, pero kon mo daku ang black color that means empty tanks me ana. Kusog kaayo ang swaying kon bakante but kung puno nice ride jud.

    With the question as to where the oil is coming from, all ships kay naa jud karga nga bunker oils para dili sila kanunay mag refuel esp. on a long journey, It might be that because of the heavy load plus the strong waves, it surpassed the bending moments of the ship lalo na if na igo ug coral reefs and naay part sa hull or wherever at the engine area nga ni crack during the strong waves maong ni leak ang oil. The chief officer plays a very important role in the shipping industry. So kutob rata sa speculations,,,Nobody is perfect....investigation is still going on, its for them to decide.

    This is our present ship

    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-29-2011 at 10:15 AM.

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkdave1984 View Post
    kanang mo ingon nga hakog wa nay kalibutan sa shipping industry.. kutob ra na sa habal2x ilang nakita. hahaha
    Yah! Ga too tingali nga parehas ra sa jeepney or bus sa probinsya nga naay extension nga lingkuranan kon ma puno na noh? or mo kapyot kaha? hehehe
    Last edited by Snowfly; 10-16-2011 at 11:49 PM.

  10. #70

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    mga bro this case is all about navigation issue, how the ship being steered why it ended up in the reef, the voyage plan and an updated chart can answer all this uncertain speculations..I am really confused why.. every ship varies on standing orders, by taking ships position every half an hour to an hour and for sure the navigating officer know where he will end up for the whole 4 hours of his watch..

    if we are lucky enough to have the results to be publish in a short time gonna be great, and for those kabayans who are having funny views towards the crew of the distress ship... we can't do nothing but to wait the result..

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