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  1. #71

    Default Re: Who created Evil?


    Quote Originally Posted by JNapz View Post
    It all started in heaven. When an angel named lucifer became ambitious to be like God.
    So the general notion that man created evil is wrong, coz the angels did..

  2. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    So the general notion that man created evil is wrong, coz the angels did..
    on a biblical sense

    who created the bible?

    it was man!

  3. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    Before I respond, I'd like to know what you think about my last post. Thanks.

    First, selfishness and greed, in moderation, are what drive the free exchange of goods and services. That's how the market system works, and it's indifferent to whether or not the motivations people have while participating in it are good or bad. These two instincts have adaptive value in our ancestors. And through our long history as social mammals, we learned to recognize the lesson of moderation.

    Evilness...I think...is a consequence of irrationality and tribalism. It's these two (irrationality and tribalism) that's hardwired in us. I want to make that distinction at the outset, because I would not say that evilness is hardwired in us directly. And, yes, we learned to rise above these basic instincts (no pun intended), such that we are able to recognize them as something we should control in order to avoid doing evil deeds.

    Is free-will hardwired in us? This is a philosophical question which will bring us to a philosophical debate between determinism and compatibilism. Perhaps you can start another thread on this.

    Regarding good and evil, I always feel like quoting the Nobel-prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg:



    In my view, this quotation is true.
    All i can say on your last post is that all of the motivations you mention except #1 are all influenced with evil.

    Yes Free-will is hardwired in us, directly or indirectly. that is the best gift as a homo sapiens. You know what? i can be an atheist tomorrow if i want to, by choosing what reasoning i want to believe, i am in control of myself. That's free-will in action!

    That quotation is true, because we are all hardwired to do good and bad things. after all we are all homo sapiens. Religion's role is to try to minimize bad things that people do, but because again of free-will we have the ability to reject what religion has taught us.
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 07-24-2011 at 11:20 AM.

  4. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by florida.blanca View Post
    on a biblical sense

    who created the bible?

    it was man!
    Isn't that we're talking about the evil from the bible?

    Yes man created the bible, but the words is not directly coming from them.

  5. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Isn't that we're talking about the evil from the bible?

    Yes man created the bible, but the words is not directly coming from them.


    are you sure?

    as what i read in one of my favorite books, the Bible didn't come by fax machine from heaven. it was a product of MAN, not by God. in a narrower sense, it was a product of PRIMITIVE, MORTAL AND IGNORANT man, who doesn't know how the world and the universe works.

  6. #76

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    Na ang TS nag sige lng nag ingon ani sa inyo post..kay if maglagot mo mogawas diha si nya motoo jud mo nga wala ni sya mo worship ug God Imposible nga wala ni syay Baptist wlay simba2X(tua daghan gwapo cats didto simbahan ) mas samot nga dili ni sya magcelebrate ug Christmas Dont Tell me Wala sya motoo ug God then Mo apil sya ug Celebrate..Hapit Tanan Tao int this World happy If Mobaot Nag december....

  7. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by florida.blanca View Post
    in fact, i already answered the question in the thread title. now it's all up to you guys if you would agree with it or not
    Nakabalo na man diay ka sa tubag, nganong naghimo pa man gyud ka ani nga thread? Aron lugar motaas imong post count? Aron pag-away-awayon ang mga istoryan nga lahi-lahi og pagtoo?

    Ipa-close na ni nga thread kay dili man diay genuine nga pangutana tubag ang imong gipangita. Gusto ra man diay nimo mag-debate ang mga istoryan diri. Aron imo dayong ipanghinambog nga blockbuster ang imong mga thread kay daghan nang-gibugno.

    Istoryans, ayaw gyud mo padala aning florido. Kamo la'y gidula-dulaan ana niya. Respeto lang ta sa tagsa-tagsa ka point of view. Dili man siguro kinahanglan nga maghambugay ta kinsa ang sakto.

  8. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkyo View Post
    Na ang TS nag sige lng nag ingon ani sa inyo post..kay if maglagot mo mogawas diha si nya motoo jud mo nga wala ni sya mo worship ug God Imposible nga wala ni syay Baptist wlay simba2X(tua daghan gwapo cats didto simbahan ) mas samot nga dili ni sya magcelebrate ug Christmas Dont Tell me Wala sya motoo ug God then Mo apil sya ug Celebrate..Hapit Tanan Tao int this World happy If Mobaot Nag december....
    what if i say i don't celebrate christmas?

    christmas is just a marketing ploy of the capitalists and the oligarchs!

    excuse me! happy ko when christmas comes! ngano? it's the season of fat paychecks!

  9. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Nakabalo na man diay ka sa tubag, nganong naghimo pa man gyud ka ani nga thread? Aron lugar motaas imong post count? Aron pag-away-awayon ang mga istoryan nga lahi-lahi og pagtoo?

    Ipa-close na ni nga thread kay dili man diay genuine nga pangutana tubag ang imong gipangita. Gusto ra man diay nimo mag-debate ang mga istoryan diri. Aron imo dayong ipanghinambog nga blockbuster ang imong mga thread kay daghan nang-gibugno.

    Istoryans, ayaw gyud mo padala aning florido. Kamo la'y gidula-dulaan ana niya. Respeto lang ta sa tagsa-tagsa ka point of view. Dili man siguro kinahanglan nga maghambugay ta kinsa ang sakto.
    what's new!

    magpataka lang jud ka pirmi. i said stay on the topic and i won't entertain your piece of crap!

    you are now ignored

  10. #80

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    Tweet @MbinH Mohammed bin Hamad--> The tragedies in Norway, Syria and Libya show one thing: Evil is done by Man, and is not limited to faith or race.

    Sakto ra kau siya sa timing. Unsa man pa apilon nato ngari? hehehe

    https://twitter.com/#!/MbinH

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