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  1. #181

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"


    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    Speaking of the Pope, I wanted to ask Catholics for their honest answer to this question. If that humble son of a carpenter, in whose name that palace at St. Peter's Square was built, came back and knocked on that door to stay for the night, would they let him in?

    Come on, we all know the answer. They'd shoo that man away like an unwanted peasant.
    Good question. Would they let him in? Probably not but I won't say that every one of them will say no, it's still possible that one of them is kind enough to let him in and stay for a night. It all depends in personality my friend.

    I think that the Catholic Church as an institution is the antithesis of what Jesus was all about. Jesus hated to see holier-than-thous praying in public (Matthew 6:5-. He eschewed displays of wealth (e.g. Pajero, all those magnificent palaces and places of worship). He didn't hand around buckets to collect money from the poor faithful while the church swims in wealth ("Give till it hurts"). Jesus Christ gave rather than took. Jesus Christ was a rebel in his time who knew what it felt like to be persecuted. And look at what the Catholic Church did throughout history...a long trail of blood of the people they persecuted and tortured and executed for the crime of having a difference of opinion. It loves power and it loves money. I think if he ever comes back, he will have something to say about the religion that bore his name.

    By the way, if you go back to 30 AD, back to when Jesus was preaching in some town square or the market, and you shout "Jesus Christ!"...guess who'd acknowledge your call. Right, nobody. Jesus was a Jew and was given the Jewish name Yeshua. Wouldn't a preservation of that original name be a more respectful tribute to the person whose name you worship?

    I'm just asking.
    It's not the religion but some people in religion. You see, the Catholic Religion keeps on spreading Jesus Christ's words and his words are inspiring people to do good, so that means there's something that people can benefit from religion. It's just that others were using religion to gain material benefits. So it's not religion that's in question but the people who's using it for their selfish reasons..
    Last edited by treize; 07-22-2011 at 03:42 PM.

  2. #182

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by treize View Post
    Good question. Would they let him in? Probably not but I won't say that every one of them will say no, it's still possible that one of them is kind enough to let him in and stay for a night. It all depends in personality my friend.



    It's not the religion but some people in religion. You see, the Catholic Religion keeps on spreading Jesus Christ's words and his words are inspiring people to do good, so that means there's something that people can benefit from religion. It's just that others were using religion to gain material benefits. So it's not religion that's in question but the people who's using it for their selfish reasons..
    Very good point...

    Even Atheist have people who don't follow their universal beliefs and are doing bad things. Catholics / Christians / Muslims have the most number of Population when it comes to Religion. So its easier to point who's doing bad that contradicts to their Religious Beliefs. 50% may be doing good, 50% may be doing bad. Taking to the account 2 Billion Christians and 1.6 Billion Muslims, the major religions of the world.

    Major religious groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    God Poll (Survey)

    snopes.com: NBC Belief in God Poll


    Its the person who is responsible for their actions not the Religion they believe in.


    For sure majority of the Scientist in the World, believe in a Supreme Being no matter if they have a Religion or not.


    My Lolo once told me "If you can't explain or prove it their must be a Divine Being behind it"


  3. #183

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by treize View Post
    Good question. Would they let him in? Probably not but I won't say that every one of them will say no, it's still possible that one of them is kind enough to let him in and stay for a night. It all depends in personality my friend.
    I'm not so sure. If he introduces himself as Yeshua (because his name wasn't Jesus Christ), what do you think their reactions would be? Be realistic. They'd look at him as if he was crazy.

    It's all about reality, my friend.

  4. #184

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    I'm not so sure. If he introduces himself as Yeshua (because his name wasn't Jesus Christ), what do you think their reactions would be? Be realistic. They'd look at him as if he was crazy.

    It's all about reality, my friend.
    i think it was derived from the roman version. Jesus Crestus (or something like that). When you think of it, that's very roman to me.

  5. #185

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by freesoul View Post
    Even Atheist have people who don't follow their universal beliefs and are doing bad things.
    Atheists having a universal belief? That's a new statement. Like I've said before, the statement that not believing is a belief is as ridiculous as saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby.

    Quote Originally Posted by freesoul View Post
    My Lolo once told me "If you can't explain or prove it their must be a Divine Being behind it"
    That's what's called "The God of the Gaps" argument. If you can't explain, then God did it.

  6. #186

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Atheist all don't believe in God, but some of them break the law, thus making themselves like a god not bound by any rules or law.

    Same as Christians, Muslims and etc...Some break the rules.


    I believe in the Divine Creator "The Grand Architect" of the Universe.

    The Universe didn't just appear by itself...

    We have different views because we are only human. We don't have all the answers.

    As of now we don't know who's right or wrong on this argument.

    Peace to all!



    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    Atheists having a universal belief? That's a new statement. Like I've said before, the statement that not believing is a belief is as ridiculous as saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby.



    That's what's called "The God of the Gaps" argument. If you can't explain, then God did it.

  7. #187

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    I think it is YOU who needs to re-read the posts. I never said no one benefited from religion. I said I want a religion where no one benefits from it on this earth.

    mao na siya diha. feeling man gud nimo gidaug2x ka. maskin wala kai labot pa as if gi apil ka. pataka ug react maskin walay labot. haller!
    Hahahaha. Calms lang.

    "I want a religion where no one benefits from it on this earth."
    so unsay punto anang relihyuna imung pasabot?

    I love you still bro

    ang galit pikon.

  8. #188

    Default Re: "There is no conflict between religion and science"

    Quote Originally Posted by redhorse1L View Post
    aayyeeee.. yahaya tokidoki ah.. naa man ni-love niya..
    naa jud magka-dayon diri ron.. eng3x..
    Quote Originally Posted by hitch22 View Post
    masuya man sad ta...hehe
    Quote Originally Posted by THE KID View Post

    hahaah pag hilum mu uy!!
    nangayabag na man tale mu

    I love you all too.

    Suyaon lage. hehee

    Shhhh naka feel ko murag suko na na kau siya.

    Eyes on the blackboard bros.

    Bsta kong ako lang jd noh dpat wala na untay conflict
    unta lang jd unta.

    Diba?

    UNTA LANG.

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