SABONG and GAMECOCKS

[JRPEPITO10]

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by the way guys, naay mga breeders sa cebu na namaligya jud og good gamefowls??... knsa?...

[lemon_edz]

komusta tanan mga ka chicken up up up lang ko nindot inyo discussion da

[asilmaniac_21]

answers to your questions bai based in my own experince on the lines nga g ask..but not all ako matubag:
1.) mclean= mutiple and power naa jud cla..nila pa if mubunal puro tiil dili mu bill hold bt walay intillegence
gilmore= wala mi kasulay ug breed
Lieper= flier jud cla..hatch nga taas ug break bt wala mi nka kuha ug nick out of these line amu na gane e baligya amu nakuha direct from RAT GRAIVES
Blueface= has the power nindot body conformation dn naa gamay nga brain
2.) not totally..as what i have known, gilmores and democrats are almost 100% PC..blueface is 90% SC sd cla..but since naa sa ila recessive gene and PC somtimes mu labay jud cla.
3.) depende sa bloodline bai..our CC cooke mclean is very dominant nga e cross cla sa PC 80% would come out SC..bt sa priciples of genetics PC is dominant over SC...but for the YLH we have 2 families hoskins and sanford they came out PC.
4.) my answer is dili..now a days most blacks are dead game...bt because of diffrent factors like to much inbreeding or un healthy up bringing could lead to the deterioration of the gamefowls gameness and any bloodline is supsceptible to these kinds of phenomena.
5.) bai its unprofessional to answer your question...Mica and tonio is very successful with their lines..our solid CC cooke mclean is 30k ang original broodcock gkan nila..integrity of the breeder is worth the price of any fowl they sell..if mg start ka ug breed and you have doubts with the line dont breed nalang jud ky you would end up blaming the source of he material saying wa ka ghatagn ug nindot nga line....they field entries in the WSC bai....no offence meant bai ha....
6.) for the Arayata's case i guess its reasonable...with the success of this line and the bulik fever now adays i wont be surprised if many pinoy sabungeros are saving to get that line....mura na ug gold rush ang buliks karn labina nga ang ng 19.5 points sa bakbakan kang arayata gkan ila buliks..but on my part i always give the credit to the breeder jud not the source of the line...

[The Good$!!!]

No offense taken bay Asil... Salamat jud kaayo sa inputs... In fact I am a follower of Tonio's breeding because I love Orientals pud... Subscribe sad ko sa ilang youtube account... I like their Perfections and Frosts but I love their Asil grades the most...

Nindot kaayo ang story atong GRND RICHELLE kato nka 19.5 sa Bakbakan ky hinatag ra daw to ilang broodcock gkan sa Agilahas then napildi nila si Gengen... Vet man to si Dr. Ronnine Magbalon ni Gengen diay... Even now si Biboy nia napud Buliks...

I've been thinking man gud unsa line sa Hatch pang battlecross and I'm leaning towards McLean and Bluefaces with your description... Tried Gilmores, dli nindot ang nick... Most Hatches are medium to low station noh? Murag required man jd cguro cla for gameness gani... Murag most battlecrosses ron nia jd Hatch infusion...

Regarding the Blacks, I'll test what I got then I'll decide if they're for cull or worth propagating...

Question about Kelsos? Are they predominantly Pearl-white legged and SC? High-breaker mana cla noh?

Thanks again! Nalingaw ko sa exchange of knowledge... At least nia ta added infor sa atong direction sa sport...

God bless ninyo tanan!^^

[asilmaniac_21]

karon gud bai gods mostly kamao naman ang mga pinoy mg breed and mg pa purify ug linage, usa pa ang knowledge about breeding is not a secret..mao naa nasad genetic alterations sa mga bloodlines but still its called by the name nga asa ng originate..a good example of which is the dan gray RH..basically its wine red, white legged peacomb....but bebot uy has developed a strain of yellow leg straight comb ang having a very gud results out of that SC strain..garces brothers are propagating the lines and same results they were having good score in them...

mcleans bai are low station jud..but blueface is medium as well as the CC cooke..tonio was able to propagate a straight comb and nindot sd ug result...with regards to the kelso d kau ko mka ralate ky since weve started breeding wa jud mi kasuway ug gamit sa kelso..we have the white kelsos and were having decent score but still on the experimental stage since we cant call its results a s a nick jud.. sory mga bai if most of the time im mentioning our lines ky ako inputs is based on my personal experince wiht the bloodlines..

[trollaccount]

My dad is into breeding and joins local stag derbies. Now because of personal differences I have decided to start breeding according to my own preference.

Is anyone familiar with how dogs particularly game dogs are breed? Single mating and only those who have proven their ability to pass on their genes get to mate. Many known old time breeders from the US were accomplished game dog breeders in their own right.

Every dog can be traced to an individual ancestor many generations back and the qualities become easier to distinguish. The end result is a better record keeping system for reference. I will not breed according to blood line but will go finer and start breeding according the the chicken's individual qualities. My dad has ace cocks in his farm and I do have access to whatever I want. My plan now is to personalize every fowl in in the breeding program and start assessing them individually. Maybe even give them names instead of a number.

I already have the program for record keeping and it looks like this but instead of dogs I will be using it for chickens:

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [560] :: SOUTHERN KENNEL'S MAYDAY

You can see the offspring, their records, and more importantly the records of the parents. It will be more time consuming than the usual markings breeders do on their fowl but it will also prevent me from having too much chickens on my keep. So what do you guys think?

[lemon_edz]

No offense taken bay Asil... Salamat jud kaayo sa inputs... In fact I am a follower of Tonio's breeding because I love Orientals pud... Subscribe sad ko sa ilang youtube account... I like their Perfections and Frosts but I love their Asil grades the most...

Nindot kaayo ang story atong GRND RICHELLE kato nka 19.5 sa Bakbakan ky hinatag ra daw to ilang broodcock gkan sa Agilahas then napildi nila si Gengen... Vet man to si Dr. Ronnine Magbalon ni Gengen diay... Even now si Biboy nia napud Buliks...

I've been thinking man gud unsa line sa Hatch pang battlecross and I'm leaning towards McLean and Bluefaces with your description... Tried Gilmores, dli nindot ang nick... Most Hatches are medium to low station noh? Murag required man jd cguro cla for gameness gani... Murag most battlecrosses ron nia jd Hatch infusion...

Regarding the Blacks, I'll test what I got then I'll decide if they're for cull or worth propagating...

Question about Kelsos? Are they predominantly Pearl-white legged and SC? High-breaker mana cla noh?

Thanks again! Nalingaw ko sa exchange of knowledge... At least nia ta added infor sa atong direction sa sport...

God bless ninyo tanan!^^

bai if you are looking for blueface, bai asil ( steve) is the man..

naka kuha kog blueface last year pero nasayang kay wa kaau nagamit, nakakaon ug something nga nikalit lang ug kamatay. higad2x daw.. pero i have 7 stags and 5 pullets out from him..

here is the pic RIP BULEFACE (circle L)

[asilmaniac_21]

hahaha..sir edz for now i guess not for sale pa amu blueface....gamay ra kau ug pure na produce...but i can recomend garces brothers ky ngadto gkan amu blueface nila...and i gave us a very good result...

[RCR75]

bai edz, nakakaon tog halang halang, with tangad ug kapayas maong namatay ug kalit hehehe, bitaw sayanga ato bai oi ang orig pa gyud nadali, mas ok unta ug ang anak lang unta to. anyway, ug managhan na diha sa badian, toa pay dakong bakante sa tagasa nga pwede mabutangan ha. heheh


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bai if you are looking for blueface, bai asil ( steve) is the man..

naka kuha kog blueface last year pero nasayang kay wa kaau nagamit, nakakaon ug something nga nikalit lang ug kamatay. higad2x daw.. pero i have 7 stags and 5 pullets out from him..

here is the pic RIP BULEFACE (circle L)

[lemon_edz]

bai edz, nakakaon tog halang halang, with tangad ug kapayas maong namatay ug kalit hehehe, bitaw sayanga ato bai oi ang orig pa gyud nadali, mas ok unta ug ang anak lang unta to. anyway, ug managhan na diha sa badian, toa pay dakong bakante sa tagasa nga pwede mabutangan ha. heheh


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master murag ing ana jud tingale hitabua, wa naanad sa tangad ug kapayas heheheh, puhon ug wanay kabutangan patungason sa tagasa hehehe