Questions for the Atheists

[kit_cebu]

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We don't have to prove anything, sir.

which part did i miss? ? ? hahahaahahhaha

[iheartnikon]

Likoy gyud kaayo imong tubag, brad. Dili man ko mosupak anang imong logical proof nga wala ka sa mars nagpuyo. Like what I've said earlier, kanang imong you in mars example, particular case na. If you know Logic 101, kabalo pud ka nga you cannot use a particular case to prove that the general/universal case is true. Fallacy of Hasty Generalization ang tawag ana.

Kun moingon ko nga ang tanang ateyista nga akong nailhan wala'y batasan therefore ang TANANG ATEYISTA WALA'Y BATASAN, logical ba ang akong conclusion? Dili, di ba? Gawas kun nakaila gyud ko sa TANANG ATEYISTA sa tibuok universe(s).

Kanang statement nga: Logic, evidence and facts are THE ONLY way to prove the truth or falsity of EVERYTHING. Universal/general statement na. Dili na particular case. So to prove that it is indeed TRUE, you need to provide a universal/general proof. Dili kay magsige lang ka'g balik2x ang imong you in mars example.

So, I will give you another chance para makahatag ka sa imong tubag. Here is the question again:

Unsa man ang proof nga tinuod ning maong statement?

Logic, evidence and facts are THE ONLY way to prove the truth or falsity of EVERYTHING.

Take note, I'm not asking for a particular example, I'm asking for a universal/general proof that the statement above is true in ALL CASES at ALL TIMES. Again, pay attention to the general terms (the only way, everything).

Ikaw may likoy, pina underline ug caps pa nimo ang THE ONLY, did I say THE ONLY? pag sure diha oi... Basaha pag ayo akong mga comments... Ayaw pag buot2x ug storya diha...

MAO NI AKONG PROOF NGA SAKTO ANG STATEMENT:

When a person would say he's living in Mars and currently living there for at this moment... I would of course question him if he is saying the truth or not...
Now why logic, evidence and facts plays the role...

I know that Mars is about 36 million miles away from earth and currently, there's no evidence that humans existed in that planet or any country deployed any man to mars... This method uses FACTS and EVIDENCE...
And by using logic combined with the facts and evidences, I know that no man can jump as high as 36 million miles and would escape the earth and venture to mars...

Now how couldn't you accept that Logic, Facts and Evidence is a good way of telling the truth?

IF YOU WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS JUST A FALLACY OF HASTY GENERALIZATION... Now tell me other ways to prove him wrong without using EVIDENCE, LOGIC and FACTS... IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANY ALTERNATIVE TO THAT, THEN THAT'S IT...

You are even using logic for questioning me... which isn't logical at all... lol...

[iheartnikon]

^^ Dili gyud na nila ma-prove, bay. Mao ila balihon ang pangutana, ang mga theists ang pangitaan nila'g proof. Unya kun mahatagan pud og proof (ex. transcendental proof for GOD existence), dili pud nila ma-refute.

Unya ang pinaka-importanteng pangutana bahin sa logic: Can you prove that logic is the only way to prove the truth or falsity of everything dili pud nila matubag. Mao man unta na'y basis sa ilang pagsupak2x. Tsk.tsk.tsk.

Hahaha.... pag sure diha oi... Ka klaro anang best ways to prove what is true or false is by using logic, evidence and facts... Unsa man diay imong gamiton pagkahibaw pananglitan na chismis imong asawa nga naay kabit tinood ba or dli?

Ikaw ra may gabalik balik sa imong istorya...

Tinuod ka dli na mo ma prove nga naay god, kay walay possible way nga ma prove na... PERO walay ebidensya o proof nga ni exist ng butanga... Gi unsa diay nimo pagkahibaw nga dli tinuod si Shiva, Thor, Zeus ug uban pa nya ang imong ginoo ra maoy ni exist?

[iheartnikon]

mao pod na akong nabantayan. itoyok na lang, instead of being fair ba by giving us their reason and evidence sa ilang position i agi man hinoon og bogal bogal og spin.

and bossing Springfield is right ila ibalik sa evolution. Can evolution prove there is no God? di ra ba.

Hahaha... Kamo ra man ang ga tuyok2x sa inyong utok... Wa man gani moy mahatag ug evidence bisag usa, nya sige mog pamugos ug evidence nga gi hatag na, balik2x lng gihapog pangutana... lol...

Sakto ka, DLI GYUD NA PROFF ANG EVOLUTION NGA WALAY GOD... KAMO RA MAY NI DENY SA EVOLUTION.... WLA GYUY IGONG BASIHAN NGA ABI KAY MO TOO NAKA UG GINOO, DLI NKA MO TOO UG EVOLUTION... lol...

[iheartnikon]

@jcgoyong

How about sa tubag aning duha nako ka questions, bro?

1. Can you prove that logic is the only way to prove the truth or falsity of everything?

2. Duna ba ka'y ika-pakita nga ebidensya nga ang wala'y kinabuhi nga amino acid mahimong usa ka living organism through a random but natural process without the aid of any intelligence?

Answers:
1. Naa npud ka ana imong THE ONLY WAY... lol... pahuway na ana... Bisag unsaon na nimog pakita nga AS IF walay ebidensya.... It is one of the basic ways of telling true or false and it's a FACT...

2. e-research lng ang Miller–Urey experiment...

[pinoy_09]

@iheartnikon: Don't waste your time answering their questions. Mu puwa na lang imong mata ana nila di gihapon na sila mu dawat sa imong tubag. Tuyok-tuyokon raka ana nila. Believe me, I've been there. It's a waste of time. Not worth it.

[iheartnikon]

@iheartnikon: Don't waste your time answering their questions. Mu puwa na lang imong mata ana nila di gihapon na sila mu dawat sa imong tubag. Tuyok-tuyokon raka ana nila. Believe me, I've been there. It's a waste of time. Not worth it.

Sakto gyud.... Nagpaila lang gyud ni sila...

[tuffie09]

^ Sakto guys people who are really into their beliefs wont even dare moving on sa ilang so called life.

[yanong_banikanhon]

2. e-research lng ang Miller–Urey experiment...

Bro, nabasa ba gyud kaha nimo ang result sa Miller–Urey experiment? Basin baya nagmention2x lang ka'g experiment bisan wala nimo hisabti ha.

Ang Miller–Urey experiment igo lang nagpakita nga ang inorganic compound (i.e carbon dioxide, hydrogen sulfide ug sulfur dioxide) pwede mahimong organic compound (amino acid). Kung nakadumdom ka sa imong chemistry nga subject sa high-school, imo pud ma-realize nga dili living thing ang amino acid, chemical compound lang na siya. Wala na'y kinabuhi.

Klaro man kaayo ang akong pangutana. Wala man ko nangayo og proof anang transformation of inorganic substance to amino acids. Ang akong pangutana mao ni:

Duna ba ka'y ika-pakita nga ebidensya nga ang wala'y kinabuhi nga amino acid mahimong usa ka living organism through a random but natural process without the aid of any intelligence?

Tubaga kuno palihug. Pero kanang saktong tubag, ha. Kay morag akong nabantayan, lipat2x ang style sa imong tinubagan. Kun wala ka'y ikatubag, ayaw i-agi og lipat2x. Dali ra man ang pag-angkon ba nga wala pa'y ebidensya nga ang amino acid nahimong living cell without the aid of any intelligence.

Naa npud ka ana imong THE ONLY WAY... lol... pahuway na ana

Ikaw may likoy, pina underline ug caps pa nimo ang THE ONLY, did I say THE ONLY?

Buot ba nimong ipasabot nga dili lang logic, facts ug evidence ang makahatag og kamatuoran? Siguradoha bro, ha. Basin baya simbako ma-excommunicate ka sa atheism ana. Kun mo-deny ka sa THE ONLY WAY ug EVERYTHING, mora'g padulong na ka sa position sa mga theists ana...hehehe...

When a person would say he's living in Mars and currently living there for at this moment...

Again, what you have proven is that your are not in Mars. But the fact that you are not in Mars has NO relevance sa imohang general/universal proposition nga Logic, Facts and Evidence are the ONLY WAY to prove EVERYTHING.

The fact that you are not in Mars does not prove that FOR EVERYTHING - logic, facts and evidence is THE ONLY way to examine if it is true or false.

Now how couldn't you accept that Logic, Facts and Evidence is a good way of telling the truth?

Wala man ko nangayo sa imo og proof kun tinuod ba nga logic, facts and evidence is a good way of telling the truth. Ayaw paglihay2x.

Ang akong pangutana, simple ra kaayo. Para nimo, wala'y angay tuohan gawas sa logic, facts and evidence. Mao gani ng nag-atheist ka kay para nimo walay evidence, dili factual ug dili logical ang existence of GOD. Para nimo ang ONLY BASIS of truth is LOGIC, FACTS and evidence.

So mao ni akong pangutana:

Unsa may imong proof nga para sa TANANG KAMATUORAN - logic, facts ug evidence ra ang basehan?

Tubaga kuno na. Ayaw'g likay2x. Basin mohatag na pud ka'g example nga wala ka sa Pluto.Tsk.tsk.tsk...magduda na gyud ko nga wala ka makasabot anang fallacy of hasty generalization.

[rodsky]

Ang akong pangutana mao ni:

Duna ba ka'y ika-pakita nga ebidensya nga ang wala'y kinabuhi nga amino acid mahimong usa ka living organism through a random but natural process without the aid of any intelligence?

Naa ka ba'y ebidensya nga ang balas sa daplin sa baybay gikan sa mga bato sa bukid?

You cannot produce evidence that takes hundreds and thousands or even millions of years to develop, just as you cannot prove that the very grains of sand in palm of your hand was part of a rock on a mountaintop millions of years ago--but the science of geology tells us this is so.

-RODION