Questions for the Atheists

[WordofGod]

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Just a quick review mga brods...

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[iheartnikon]

Usa sa proof is ang 'transcendental proof for GOD's existence'. Ako nang gibatbat sa makadaghan dinhi ning maong thread. Backthread lang, bro para imo masabtan kanang maong proof. Dili na nako utroho'g explain kay basin ma OT ta. Ang title sa thread is Questions for the Atheists so focus ta ani nga tema. Mao ning mga panahona nga inyong ipakita nga maayong laki manubag ang mga atheists.

You presented that you have indeed proven a "transcendental proof for God's existence"... Maayo kaayo ka manghambog nga wa mi ikatubag anang imong proof... hala e-PM nlang na imong "proof" nako kay ako nang tubagon...

Bay, ayaw lagi likay-likayi ang pangutana. Tsk.tsk.tsk...the question is:

Unsa man ang proof nga tinuod ning maong statement?

Logic, evidence and facts are THE ONLY way to prove the truth or falsity of EVERYTHING.

The statement in blue is general/universal (only way, everything), so don't give me a particular case (you in mars) as a proof kay kun imo nang buhaton, mahimong fallacy of hasty generalization ang tibuok nimong proposition.

Of course the statement is true... Logic, evidence, facts are ways to quantify if it's true or false... Why is this true?

When a person would say he's living in Mars and currently living there for at this moment... I would of course question him if he is saying the truth or not...

Now why logic, evidence and facts plays the role...

I know that Mars is about 36 million miles away from earth and currently, there's no evidence that humans existed in that planet or any country deployed any man to mars... This method uses FACTS and EVIDENCE...
And by using logic combined with the facts and evidences, I know that no man can jump as high as 36 million miles and would escape the earth and venture to mars...

Now how couldn't you accept that Logic, Facts and Evidence is a good way of telling the truth?

Now tell me other ways to prove him wrong without using EVIDENCE, LOGIC and FACTS...

Magkatawa man lang pud ta nimo ug huna2x unsa kaha diay imong gamiton ug prove sa usa ka butang... lol...

[iheartnikon]

Denying Evolution also means denying that Africans, Europeans or Sherpas in the Himalayas ever lived in this world...

[iheartnikon]

Not a proof but the question still remains....

What questions?

You are questioning why once a great atheist Antony Flew changed his stance to deism... When, you also know that he is suffering from a mental disease for years and constantly changing positions...

I couldn't get why theists like you needs other person's opinion for your own position...

[yanong_banikanhon]

Of course the statement is true... Logic, evidence, facts are ways to quantify if it's true or false... Why is this true?...using logic combined with the facts and evidences, I know that no man can jump as high as 36 million miles and would escape the earth and venture to mars...

Likoy gyud kaayo imong tubag, brad. Dili man ko mosupak anang imong logical proof nga wala ka sa mars nagpuyo. Like what I've said earlier, kanang imong you in mars example, particular case na. If you know Logic 101, kabalo pud ka nga you cannot use a particular case to prove that the general/universal case is true. Fallacy of Hasty Generalization ang tawag ana.

Kun moingon ko nga ang tanang ateyista nga akong nailhan wala'y batasan therefore ang TANANG ATEYISTA WALA'Y BATASAN, logical ba ang akong conclusion? Dili, di ba? Gawas kun nakaila gyud ko sa TANANG ATEYISTA sa tibuok universe(s).

Kanang statement nga: Logic, evidence and facts are THE ONLY way to prove the truth or falsity of EVERYTHING. Universal/general statement na. Dili na particular case. So to prove that it is indeed TRUE, you need to provide a universal/general proof. Dili kay magsige lang ka'g balik2x ang imong you in mars example.

So, I will give you another chance para makahatag ka sa imong tubag. Here is the question again:

Unsa man ang proof nga tinuod ning maong statement?

Logic, evidence and facts are THE ONLY way to prove the truth or falsity of EVERYTHING.

Take note, I'm not asking for a particular example, I'm asking for a universal/general proof that the statement above is true in ALL CASES at ALL TIMES. Again, pay attention to the general terms (the only way, everything).

[yanong_banikanhon]

What questions?

Sama anang question nga naa sa taas. Mao man unta na'y basis sa imong pagka-atheist pero hangtud karon wala pa gyud ka makahatag og saktong tubag. Maayo lang ka mangita og ebidensya sa pagtoo sa mga theists pero ang imo mismong pagtoo dili nimo ma-prove.

[dnz]

Its could all sink down to what we call Evolution.

[jinkazama92]

Its could all sink down to what we call Evolution.

Evolution has a beginning.
Just like everything else. Just like a seed. Plants start from the seed.

[nowpress*]

we're down to 60pages and atheists had yet to prove their position, there is no God.

[yanong_banikanhon]

^^ Dili gyud na nila ma-prove, bay. Mao ila balihon ang pangutana, ang mga theists ang pangitaan nila'g proof. Unya kun mahatagan pud og proof (ex. transcendental proof for GOD existence), dili pud nila ma-refute.

Unya ang pinaka-importanteng pangutana bahin sa logic: Can you prove that logic is the only way to prove the truth or falsity of everything dili pud nila matubag. Mao man unta na'y basis sa ilang pagsupak2x. Tsk.tsk.tsk.