Tallo leaves Ateneo: Right or Wrong Move?

[vipvip68]

danny ildefonso
arwin santos
and ETC..did not play under ADMU but they are good players?

Nobody ever said that u have to play for admu to be a good player. The point is that those names you mention above worked within the system of their schools (feu and Nu). They listened to their coach's advise, put in the work and let their play do the talking.

ang point dili lang kay si black ra ang capable nga coach sa UAAP or sa pinas daghan pud nga maayo.

yup.. Nobody said si black lang ang maayo.

thats why you have to give players some confidence for them jell well with the team..sakto nga playing time.

Before any of that, the player has to learn the system usa.... Mark Tallo was just simply impatient and wanted to play right away despite not being fully versed with the system.

that why they have trainings and practice..for them to fit in the system..one way is to give them playing time..

Ang question is... Was he ready to play the system sa Admu? Accdng to Coach Norman... Dili pa man... So why give someone who is not ready playing time? PG pa gyud of all positions which is the hardest and most crucial position to play....

Kulang lang gyud siguro sa patience and medyo ni dako ang ulo kay naanad naman sya nga superstar diri sa Cebu.

This is the classic case of a fish from a small pond transferring to a big pond where there are other fishes as big if not bigger than him.

[christianJL]

Hahaha...Trisikad driver or education diay ang basehan sa B-ball IQ,.Wat d F,,....Bro bsan 30 years paka m skwela kng low imo B-ball IQ, You can`t execute it well..Education gives us knowlege pro IQ na gane ky sa taw nana..dha na ang basehan kng gifted or talented ba ang taw..Preha rna anang m take ka og IQ test...ngano naa na sa klase?pa solvon ka og puzzle, ngano naa n sa klase..dre na m matter ang IQ part. mao na nga kng naay talent or taas og IQ ang taw. dapat jd i polish arn dli m sayang.Remember bro, daghan dha taw nga la intawn nka eskwela nga taas og IQ.

[kamandag]

kung wala'y exposure bisan naa paka patience.. mag psp nlng ka sa sideline..

nindot gyud kung taga-an ug exposure ug playing time para makita ang scatter..

ang nindut lng sa ateneo kay naa man TNT, Meralco ug Nlex so magpili lang ka asa ka duwa after graduate..

[christianJL]

kung wala'y exposure bisan naa paka patience.. mag psp nlng ka sa sideline..

nindot gyud kung taga-an ug exposure ug playing time para makita ang scatter..

ang nindut lng sa ateneo kay naa man TNT, Meralco ug Nlex so magpili lang ka asa ka duwa after graduate..

Kiefer is w/　ateneo right now..d same position n tallo and tiongson also.lisod jud sa iya part.

[christianJL]

Ngano mag una2x mn ta og judge...huwat pamo sa resulta kng unsa jud..dli kay mg una mo..maybe ang La Salle nkg negotiate na nila karon..ana mn jud na naa mn jd sayop ang taw f ever nasayop man gne..

[D40]

April lang daw nisugod si Tallo nagjoin sa team. So basically, 1 month pa lang siya nagpractice with Ateneo. Is that enough time for a rookie PG to learn the plays? The way I've seen this team play on TV, daghan man ni sila mga half court set plays.

[christianJL]

April lang daw nisugod si Tallo nagjoin sa team. So basically, 1 month pa lang siya nagpractice with Ateneo. Is that enough time for a rookie PG to learn the plays? The way I've seen this team play on TV, daghan man ni sila mga half court set plays.

Ako nmo bro, huwat nlng sa resulta b4 ta m judge ani bataa. Maayo pa hunongon ni ninyo nga isyu ky dli lalim kng kamo sad ang isyuhan..pro kng padayon ghapon m ani nga isyo....cge lng m abot rsad na sa inyong kinabuhi nga i judge mo if ever msayop mo..tan awon nato kng unsa sd inyo ma feel. Im related to Tallo family or dli sad mi friend...,pro dli lalim og i judge ta.sayo pa kau para m judge aning bataa..

[christianJL]

Ako nmo bro, huwat nlng sa resulta b4 ta m judge ani bataa. Maayo pa hunongon ni ninyo nga isyu ky dli lalim kng kamo sad ang isyuhan..pro kng padayon ghapon m ani nga isyo....cge lng m abot rsad na sa inyong kinabuhi nga i judge mo if ever msayop mo..tan awon nato kng unsa sd inyo ma feel. Im related to Tallo family or dli sad mi friend...,pro dli lalim og i judge ta.sayo pa kau para m judge aning bataa..

SOrry, Dli m related sa mga Tallo family or dli sd m friends...pro you feel what they ryt now nga g issuehan ninyo og maayo.

[hulagway]

Nobody ever said that u have to play for admu to be a good player. The point is that those names you mention above worked within the system of their schools (feu and Nu). They listened to their coach's advise, put in the work and let their play do the talking.



yup.. Nobody said si black lang ang maayo.



Before any of that, the player has to learn the system usa.... Mark Tallo was just simply impatient and wanted to play right away despite not being fully versed with the system.



Ang question is... Was he ready to play the system sa Admu? Accdng to Coach Norman... Dili pa man... So why give someone who is not ready playing time? PG pa gyud of all positions which is the hardest and most crucial position to play....

Kulang lang gyud siguro sa patience and medyo ni dako ang ulo kay naanad naman sya nga superstar diri sa Cebu.

This is the classic case of a fish from a small pond transferring to a big pond where there are other fishes as big if not bigger than him.

wala bitaw ka ni sulti..pro wala pud ka ni mention ug lain team ug coach so unsa man imo point d i?

if they want tallo to play in their system..then why not give him playing time..dili kay bangkoon ka..unsaon nimo pag fit sa system kung dili ka gamiton? unsaon nimo pag fit sa system kung dili ka kibaw sa dinowa-an sa imo kauban? ang good start ana kay enough playing time..naa man gud potential ang bata unya kung sa ADMU lang siya unya bangko kay dili apa ready unsa man ang iyang future?

just because black said nga dili pa siya ready automatic sakto na siya? why not try other team? dili na pwde?

ang problema man gud ng too ta nga kay ni hawa siya impatience o dako na ang ulo kay star sa cebu..pro sa tinoud sayang ang iyang tallent kung dili ka gamiton tungod kay 2 or 3 mo sa isa ka position.mao nga mangita ug team nga mo provide nimo ug sakto nga playing time for you to fit in the system? diba?

pagkangan ng star siya sa cebu as uve mention naay quality ang iyang dinowaan unya ngano dili man nato respetaran ilang decision ngan mo hawa kay walay playing time?

question..how long should tallo wait? knowing ka aside kay ravena naa pa jud laing nga moabot from new mexico after inig graduate sa duha nila ka members sa ADMU same position as ravena and tallo? so ika pila kaha nga rotation si tallo ani? nga ang trend raba karon sa UAAP mg hire ug mga foreigner or fil-am nga player para lang maka chanpion?

[vipvip68]

wala bitaw ka ni sulti..pro wala pud ka ni mention ug lain team ug coach so unsa man imo point d i?

My point was that it's the coach's decision on who gets to play.. Whether the Coach is Norman Black, Franz Pumaren etc...

if they want tallo to play in their system..then why not give him playing time..dili kay bangkoon ka..unsaon nimo pag fit sa system kung dili ka gamiton? unsaon nimo pag fit sa system kung dili ka kibaw sa dinowa-an sa imo kauban? ang good start ana kay enough playing time..naa man gud potential ang bata unya kung sa ADMU lang siya unya bangko kay dili apa ready unsa man ang iyang future?

just because black said nga dili pa siya ready automatic sakto na siya? why not try other team? dili na pwde?

Coach Norman said He's not ready yet. This comment was obviously after seeing him play sa practice and pickup games nila.

If he cannot hack the standard of play expected sa ADMU which requires him to learn mga set plays, he might as well do a Mike Gamboa and move to U.P. and be a star player there.

The coach telling you that di pa ka ready should challenge you to do better... but instead, he whined and quit the team.

You have to work within the system sa school and follow the coach.

ang problema man gud ng too ta nga kay ni hawa siya impatience o dako na ang ulo kay star sa cebu..pro sa tinoud sayang ang iyang tallent kung dili ka gamiton tungod kay 2 or 3 mo sa isa ka position.mao nga mangita ug team nga mo provide nimo ug sakto nga playing time for you to fit in the system? diba?

pagkangan ng star siya sa cebu as uve mention naay quality ang iyang dinowaan unya ngano dili man nato respetaran ilang decision ngan mo hawa kay walay playing time?

question..how long should tallo wait? knowing ka aside kay ravena naa pa jud laing nga moabot from new mexico after inig graduate sa duha nila ka members sa ADMU same position as ravena and tallo? so ika pila kaha nga rotation si tallo ani? nga ang trend raba karon sa UAAP mg hire ug mga foreigner or fil-am nga player para lang maka chanpion?

If tallo believes nga maayo gyud siya nga player, he wouldve proved it sa practice and pickup games and the coach would've fielded him sa games.

Maybe his style of play dili lang gyud suited for UAAP.
Maybe he's better suited for another league or another school.
Maybe he's so used to being the center of attention being the superstar sa Cebu that he could not take being relegated to the bench.

Like I said, daghan na kaayo stories pareha sa iyaha especially with mga superstars from Ateneo High who upon moving to the seniors division , really struggled with the level of play. People like BJ Manalo are classic examples...

Maybe Tallo's father thinks that his chances of getting in the PBA will be lower if he stays in a superstar laden lineup sa ADMU.

For me, it's too early pa gyud to do what he did. Wala pa man gani mag start ang season sa UAAP.