Everything about : RH Bill ( Reproductive Health Bill)

[Romeojin]

Politicians do not want to discuss it because they do not want this bill to be defined by its intent to minimize population growth as this should not be the central focus of this bill.

It doesnt have to be written in the bill for us to realize what the effects of its passage will be.

To physically impose limits on children per family is a violation of our freedom. The rhb aims to lower the number of children per household through education and access to state funded famly planning methods for those who cannot afford or do not have access to it.

There is no population control measure with RHB even the main author and co authors of RHB and even Malacañan had said it period

bisdak na gyud ni...
RH bill di population control: PLCPD | Sun.Star

If its not written how will be implemented? go with the flow na lang? spending billions on a questionable results lol.

You cant stop families from aiming 3 or more children and that wont help curb the population. the ideal family size should be 2 children, you know that and its clear on the bill. Why would you react if we go for "2 child policy" ? when you voice out concerns of overpopulation if the target is 2 child and we are not getting 2, thats stupidity. thats why they rule out population control measure of the bill.

The bottom line is RHB wont curb our population, pro life families (with 3 or more children) will continue to add to our population. Like i said its not all about getting free contraceptives but also it also their will to have many children. Take a look we had many pro poor projects making it easy to raise children than the middle and upper class.

[GemWArrioR]

ana jud na brod..

nagbaha man ang PRO dire..
so we will try to maintain balance,,


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Anti-RH.. defend life!





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NO to RH Bill...NO to Legal Killing!

bai asa sa aricle na legal ang pagpatay and by the way pro-life ka diba... taman asa?
kasuway ka agi ug pamilya na daghan anak halos wala na mapakain?

IF RH Bill is killing/abortion ............ RH Bill also promotes NFP...... then NFP is also KILLING.... ka gets ka ooo wala ka nag babasa ng RH bill

[Romeojin]

If you're trying to do an analogy, at least you should do it right. Ngano, kung naa na diay RH bill kay manghatag ang government ug free "birdy" ug free "flower"? See how your analogy fails?

lol tell that to Gemwarrior. siya ra nag una ana

[GemWArrioR]

If you're trying to do an analogy, at least you should do it right. Ngano, kung naa na diay RH bill kay manghatag ang government ug free "birdy" ug free "flower"? See how your analogy fails?

mao lagi brad.... the analogy is that, it is how to use it, not when to use it....

[GemWArrioR]

lol tell that to Gemwarrior. siya ra nag una ana

katawa ko nimo brad.... hahahaha......... mao man imong tubag.... so sayup imong analogy... kaya don't blame me on your mistake....

[bronson]

1. Ikaw ra nag mention himuon consensual ang PMS, gitubag ta ka kung naa bay parents musugot ana. Lain pud imong response.

2. Like i said the writer didnt stop from corruption, rather he focus on implementation. How good can a law be, if it cant be implemented well ?

3. As long as its *** education is optional people can live with that. Lets face it comprehensive *** education is not a popular choice.

4. Mao gani ang problema sa countryside gamay population sunod same level of amenities and services. Its true mas daghan matagaan ug service in the cities kay daghan lagi. the question is the budget ani sa countryside na gamay na population magbuild pa ug clinics etc.

5. To make myself clear I never said mahimong proactive ang government on contraceptives giveaway in school like what the Frenzy condom company you saying about hehe.
Ang main point kung way access sa free contraceptives mas lesser ang chance they will sway against the will of parents and moral teachings wherever it comes from. ka G?
kung gun analogy pa hehe, kung maghatag ang governtmnet ng free guns.. wa na diay mamusil? prevention is better than cure hehe. ayaw taga-i ug RH rights ang teens kay di man gihapon musugot ang mga parents mag ***.

6. Point taken, like i said the govenrment are doing some actions about the abortifacient causing contraceptives. but to make it clear tana the RHB shouldn't define RH as


i hope things much clearer now and lets stop putting words on somebody's mouth, kung dili clear ask question sa ha

1. Wala gyud ko ma remember niingon ko nga mutual na musugot ang parents nga ilang anak pwede mag ger ger.

2. A good law is a good law. The implementation is another story. Pareha ra na kung naay nindot kaayo nga building design ang architect pero inig tukod na sa building wala ma tarong ug sunod ang design... mu-ingon diay ka nga bati ang design sa architect?

5. I remember you saying many times na ipang hatag ang condoms sa school... sige pa gani ka ingon na pro-RH bill ko pero dili ko open anang ipang hatag ang condom sa schools. Ingnon pa ko nimo nga unsa nga klase sa ko sa pro kung dili ko open ana. kahinumdom naka?

kanang gun analogy... kay nganu kung tagaan ang mga tao ug pusil, mamusil na tanan? diba dili man? Diba choice nila kung gamiton nila bisan against sa ilang consensya? Mao nay giingon nga choice. Katong ganahan gyud mu-patay, mu-patay gyud na. Pero kung ma pahibalo sila sa consequences sa action na himoon nila, dako pa chance na dili na sila mu-patay.

[Romeojin]

sugod na sad ka anang bashing... hehe
I may sound dumb for repeating it. Maybe because i'm talking to one. You don't get the point. You keep on repeating that RH bill is giving rights to minors on contraceptives/services/engaging in s*x when the fact is RH bill is not making any difference such as giving/adding rights for minors to access to contraceptives/engage in s*x. Dili man kaha bawal sa balaod nato, so pasabot, pwede ra bisan wala pay RH bill. Nya sige ka yawyaw na RH bill ang mag hatag ug rights.

about sa frenzy, dugay kau na ang frenzy. bisan dili pareha ka dugay sa trust pero dugay na. nganu gud tawn mag himo ko ug istorya? dili man ko pareha nimo.

I never said teaching abstinence did not work. What I said was.. It was never done effectively. Specially by the Catholic church na saba kaayo ani.
The gov't can't promote strictly abstinence kay mahimo na nang religious stand. Separation of church and state, dapat walay paboran na religion ang state.

relax lang part. ang maayo nga trabaho sa imo kay software tester/QA.
gahi kaayo ka ug mindset. strength na nimo.

Sige i.simplified nako.

If parents are telling their kids not to engage PMS, for their safety (STI); so they wont stray into their education; so they wont hurt emotionally (depress); so they wont get married early; or what so ever parental concerns. Right now without RH we could see contraceptives available in stores nationwide, im not denying that but those contraceptives are not free. Teens are much more likely to adhere to their parent moral authority and also religious institution giving their moral teachings.

Now if RH bill is enacted as a law, and we could see contraceptives available in school (looking from other countries) or elsewhere to cater to adolescent (from ages 11-20) as what written in the bill. Does it not create mix message about PMS? the government guarantees reproductive health rights to all. If there are teens are doing PMS and use those free contraceptives, and let us not forget they are people saying prevailing na gyud ang PMs.. why cant this be a norm in the near future.

And when i said giving RH rights to teens = i meant naay access to contraceptives ang teens, why taggan sila ug access when we should educate or make them AWARE (like what someone said here) not to engage in PMS.

*** ed or no *** the problem is we are giving RH rights to teens; when contraceptives are available there will be more *** thats simple logic, if PMS is rampant why wouldnt it be much more rampant with RHB?

what you mean teaching abstinence by the government will make it a religious stand? i thought mahimong aware and responsible ang mga tao with RHB like many mga pro dire you be careful with your words ha you are going against pro RH here.

relax lagi, way personalan agree.

[Romeojin]

1. Wala gyud ko ma remember niingon ko nga mutual na musugot ang parents nga ilang anak pwede mag ger ger.

2. A good law is a good law. The implementation is another story. Pareha ra na kung naay nindot kaayo nga building design ang architect pero inig tukod na sa building wala ma tarong ug sunod ang design... mu-ingon diay ka nga bati ang design sa architect?

5. I remember you saying many times na ipang hatag ang condoms sa school... sige pa gani ka ingon na pro-RH bill ko pero dili ko open anang ipang hatag ang condom sa schools. Ingnon pa ko nimo nga unsa nga klase sa ko sa pro kung dili ko open ana. kahinumdom naka?

kanang gun analogy... kay nganu kung tagaan ang mga tao ug pusil, mamusil na tanan? diba dili man? Diba choice nila kung gamiton nila bisan against sa ilang consensya? Mao nay giingon nga choice. Katong ganahan gyud mu-patay, mu-patay gyud na. Pero kung ma pahibalo sila sa consequences sa action na himoon nila, dako pa chance na dili na sila mu-patay.

1. heres what you said.

1. If you want restrictions sa access to medically safe, legal, effective, quality and affordable reproductive health supplies and services for minors, Do you want to put a clause there that they need a parent's consent before they are given access to such? If not, what do you suggest?
I guess you can't ban them from such because everyone undergoes RH development.

thats why i asked
naa bay parents gusto mahimong consensual ang PMS?

2. daghay law nahimong useless overtime. juvenile justice law to name such.
but your point is consider.

5. it doesnt really matter where ihatag, but to the point naa silay access. just to clear matter.

gi seryoso man ninyo kana gun analogy kataw-an man gani nako.
"kung gun analogy pa hehe" i quoted.

[miyay]

kay ngano kani silang naa sa poverty side wala pahimangnui sa mga taga barangay health center? unya unsa man lagi kung di ni sila motuman unsa man alternative sa gobyerno? kahibalo naman ta nga kani sila maoy gahi kaayo motuman sa balaod?

ang sa barangay health center kay magdepende ra sa budget sa LGU. balo ba ka na sa mga LGU, gamay ra ang budget para sa health centers? gamay ra ila IRA. og kabalo man ta na ang distribution depende ra ni kapitan.

kung maapproved ni na bill, one advantage is that there will be free ligation for those women who choose to have it. do you know how much that means to poor women?

the bill does not force parents what to use in family planning. just to assist them in making an informed choice.

i suggest you read the bill, sir.

[Romeojin]

toinks toinks....

RH Bill does not promote PMS.... bangaa jud nimo, pabalik balik lang ko explain sa coco head mo do......

nasa atin ang final desisyon if mag engage ta sa PMS, with or with the bill.........

kani pinaka bugo from g e r low moe jin

pangutana kahibaw ba ka kung may sakit ang tao na may STI?? mostly sa kanila wala symptons, you don't know who has it or not, especially if ang tao daghan partners..

ambot lang nimo


its in our decision to engae in PMS with/without RH Bill..
kaya nga gipangutana tika, UNSA IMO BUHATON TO STOP PMS
The only way to prevent PMS is to sexually oppressed them / force them to obey the NO PMS rule -- abstinence pinaka bogo na sagot.... tandaan ang kasabiha " its easier said than done "

RH Bill does not stop PMS or s*x - it promotes awarenes, the bad side of unprotected s*x. especially if dili ka pa ready.......

Answer this.. if we give away condoms dili na ka makapromote ug *** or people be sexual liberated ? Yes or No . the fact is contraceptives is the forefront of sexual revolution.

heres one of the link beh, prove your assumption para makit.an dire kinsa naay coco head
Sexual revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

maghatag ug contraceptives di na hinuon mo rampant ang ***. rampant na gani without RH.. with RH pa kaha

mao gani mag condom kay wa ka kahibaw kinsay naa, confused na ka? but true dili gyud 100% kasaligan ang condom as seen in Thailand where HIV is pandemic.


Kung dili maminaw sa parents or sa Church or whatever religious teachings about to practice abstinence or not to engage in PMS and be aware of its consequences even without RH.
Unsay odds maminaw sila sa *** ed instructor in school easily said than done lol. worst naa pa silay access to contraceptives.