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    Default The Unanswerable Question!



    Can you be Christian

    And Believe in Reincarnation?

    --- or ---

    Can you be a Genuine follower of

    Yeshua/Jesus

    and
    Not Believe in Reincarnation


    Many Christians today will regard these questions as an enigma! They will reason to themselves: What can the belief in reincarnation possibly have in common with Jesus, Christianity, and its doctrine of heaven, hell and the resurrection? If man is saved by faith apart from works -- i.e., the blood of the Lamb of God -- what part would reincarnation play in the life of Christians? Non-Christians? Further, how can a belief such as reincarnation -- a belief that is considered by many Christians to be a mere fable, devoid of all truth -- a doctrine that on the surface appears to be so foreign to Christianity -- be called it's key? The answer to this question, though simple once understood, will be disturbing to many uninformed believers today.
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    The Answer: Without comprehending the Divine Pattern and Path of the soul within the teachings of Messiah/Christ pertaining to the Prodigal Son/Daughter, the level of spiritual maturity of Christians of the simple faith who fail to understand how the wheel of rebirth and reincarnation affects them, can be likened to a fetus in relation to a mature adult. They remain carnal and of a temporal mind, and cannot embrace the fullness of the teachings of TheWay and move on to Spiritual Maturity and dwell in the Kingdom of Origination.
    Yeshua/Jesus taught the reality of the pre-existent soul that fulfills the mandate of perfection at Matt 5:48 over the course of many lifetimes. Grace, being saved by the blood of the Lamb, and the resurrection which is a central theme in Christianity today, is not for either the non-believer, cultural quasi-Christians, or those who claim to believe with their lips but are unfaithful in their manner of living -- the resurrection is only for those who pick up their cross and follow the Master of TheWay into the Inner Kingdom (Luke 17:20-21). Thus, those who walk the "narrow path" and enter into Life, are the ones who are saved. Those who walk what Yeshua/Jesus referred to as the "Broad-way" of destruction, return again to reap what they have sown. The domains of what Yeshua/Jesus called the "outer darkness... hell... prison... and the place of judgment", all represent the reality of each one of us inheriting our own works! While this aspect of Yeshua/Jesus' teachings was more clear prior to the fourth-century Church of Constantine's editing of the scriptures, it remains true that once the doctrine of preordination is properly understood, the teaching of reincarnation is the most prevalent in the Bible. Without understanding the process of how the soul evolves to a perfected state as the prodigal son returns to the Kingdom of Origination, it is impossible for the believers of the simple faith to advance past the stage of entry-level people-in-training to be Christians. A Genuine Christian is a Nazirene Disciple of TheWay who is of an Anointed (Messiah/Christ) Mind -- and therefore being Illumed by the Holy Spirit, possesses the Divine Knowledge that is referred to throughout the scriptures as the Mysteries of God.
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    Do Christians derive their doctrines of belief from the Bible? Many would like to think so -- but under close examination we begin to see that the beliefs of the average Christian is in fact diametrically opposed to what the Bible actually teaches. The problem is that the Bible, as well as the essence of the teachings of TheWay, exist as a paradoxical enigma to modern Christianity -- a paradoxical enigma that causes an uncountable number of conflicting doctrines and sects to continue to arise -- and this paradoxical enigma will continue to envelop the modern Church under a cloud of spiritual ignorance, until which time Christians are prepared to seek the essence and roots of the teachings of Jesus -- a system of revelation that is spiritual, and has little in common with the multitude of doctrines proclaimed by the Church today.

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    mao ra pud ni bible - based teaching nga na oppose na hinoon..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by emb_ventures View Post
    mao ra pud ni bible - based teaching nga na oppose na hinoon..........


    BITAW.....sah man wui

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    “The destiny of every man lies in the
    hands of the Eternal Father, My child. We
    are much distressed to find many of Our
    children becoming engrossed in this
    game, My child, of astrology. Do they
    not understand that it is promoted by
    satan to deceive them? The Eternal
    Father has the destiny of each man, for
    He has created him, My child. There is
    not a stone or a star, or a dark light—and
    I say dark, because we must not confuse
    this with the light from Heaven, My
    child—there is no manner of metal, or
    light, or heat, or radiation that has an
    effect on man’s future.
    “I shall not enlarge upon this statement
    at this time, My child, for it is very
    complicated to most human beings.
    However, I will repeat Myself: astrology
    is a false science, created by satan. Also
    you will make it known, My child, that
    there is only one spirit for one body.
    There is no reincarnation. That is also a
    fallacy and deception given to the
    world’s people by satan.
    “You may enlarge upon this by stating,
    My child, that at the end of time, the
    General Judgment, each soul will be
    reunited with its body at the general
    resurrection of mankind. Now if you
    were, My child, to have more than one
    body, what body shall We place that one
    spirit into? You see, My child, for those
    minds that have not been clouded by
    satan, it is easy to understand that it is a
    falseness that has been sent upon the
    minds of Our children by satan. It is truly
    a battle of the spirits.”

    Our Lady, August 5, 1975

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    “The destiny of every man lies in the
    hands of the Eternal Father, My child. We
    are much distressed to find many of Our
    children becoming engrossed in this
    game, My child, of astrology. Do they
    not understand that it is promoted by
    satan to deceive them? The Eternal
    Father has the destiny of each man, for
    He has created him, My child. There is
    not a stone or a star, or a dark light—and
    I say dark, because we must not confuse
    this with the light from Heaven, My
    child—there is no manner of metal, or
    light, or heat, or radiation that has an
    effect on man’s future.
    “I shall not enlarge upon this statement
    at this time, My child, for it is very
    complicated to most human beings.
    However, I will repeat Myself: astrology
    is a false science, created by satan. Also
    you will make it known, My child, that
    there is only one spirit for one body.
    There is no reincarnation. That is also a
    fallacy and deception given to the
    world’s people by satan.
    “You may enlarge upon this by stating,
    My child, that at the end of time, the
    General Judgment, each soul will be
    reunited with its body at the general
    resurrection of mankind. Now if you
    were, My child, to have more than one
    body, what body shall We place that one
    spirit into? You see, My child, for those
    minds that have not been clouded by
    satan, it is easy to understand that it is a
    falseness that has been sent upon the
    minds of Our children by satan. It is truly
    a battle of the spirits.”

    Our Lady, August 5, 1975
    Good point...

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    alot of early christians believe in a certain idea seemingly similar to reincarnation though not synonymous with that of its original Indian counterparts. They call it metempsychosis. St. Augustine himself wrote a didactic on that topic.

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    i havent embrace the theory of reincarnation, but i believe in the universal truth which the TS wrote in his other thread.

    My belief, (ako rani ha, way mupalag, hehe), is that when we die, our earthly body unites with the earth, nobody knows after that. Some theories of Heaven and Hell after death.

    So, if we have an End, then its logical to say that we had a Beggining, and if we have a Beggining, then something, some power, some force or energy must have Created us.

    Whether you call it God, Jehovah Jirah, Yeshua, Buddah, Allah, etc., its all good. But for me, i call it the nameless, unfathomable force, immeasurable power, why, coz its not human, thats why i dont give it a name, an image of likeness, or something that i tend to measure thy greatness.

    ako-a lang na. but critics are most welcome. bow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orcgod View Post
    i havent embrace the theory of reincarnation, but i believe in the universal truth which the TS wrote in his other thread.

    My belief, (ako rani ha, way mupalag, hehe), is that when we die, our earthly body unites with the earth, nobody knows after that. Some theories of Heaven and Hell after death.

    So, if we have an End, then its logical to say that we had a Beggining, and if we have a Beggining, then something, some power, some force or energy must have Created us.

    Whether you call it God, Jehovah Jirah, Yeshua, Buddah, Allah, etc., its all good. But for me, i call it the nameless, unfathomable force, immeasurable power, why, coz its not human, thats why i dont give it a name, an image of likeness, or something that i tend to measure thy greatness.

    ako-a lang na. but critics are most welcome. bow.
    Yes. You have a very nice point of view. We came form the ONE SOURCE and we go back to the ONE SOURCE-GOD! The purpose of Reincarnation is EVOLUTION-attaining GOD Consciousness like Jesus The CHRIST
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