nagamit ba sa work ang imong na tun-an sa school?

[tosip]

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For those who have worked na in-line sa ilang nahuman na course, nagamit ba to the full extent (or at least some of it) ang inyong na learn sa school? Let us exclude subjects like the minors like communication, how to make letters, or personal relations kai common naman kaayo na. let's talk about the actual skills.

I'll give example (mag sorry nako daan kai naai dili maka relate ani). Electrical Engineer ko tuod karon pero as of now, gina train ko as a Maintenance Technician in a company. Maygani ako kai naa koi nahuman na Engineering Technology course para naai maski gamay na skills kai if wala pa, maparehas ko sa akong mga ka batch na ning diretso ug engineering tapos kiwa kaayo mu handle ug screw driver, tapos maglisod ug basa ug schematics, drawings and daghan kaayog lain pangutana na wala diri wala didto. Kai na-anad na mag sige ug solve gamit calculator tapos ang actual skills wala na develop...

Para daw kuno ma develop ang skills sa imong career, kai mag enroll daw ta ug mga special courses that costs thousands of pesos... pero we can still develop those kinds of skills whether technical or personal type of skills pero sa sulod na sa workplace and its already free... kaysa bayaran nimo ang skills needed sa work place. Pero ang problema kai what if fresh graduate pajud ka, dako kag marks tuod pero the required skills for the work places aren't there yet? So ang applicant mapugos nalang ug enroll sa specialized skills training.

What are your thoughts in this? Tapos sa mga experts, tabang ug expound para ma cure akong ignorance. hehe

[Venn]

Hmm I can't agree with you more. But that's how it really is. Most schools are established to teach their students to pass the Board without prior consideration to the needed skills to be acquired which is the prime consideration in the industry. That's why it should be that schools should incline their subjects in such a way that students are learning the theory and the actual expertise in one way or another for them not to be ignorant of the outside world.

[Scott Bernard]

Yes true... Most of my skills today dili ra gikan sa academe... Some of which kay gikan sa mga special trainings / schooling (Motor control, HVAC, Machine Shop / Fabrication, etc.).

Advantage lang sa engineering degree / knowledge, kabalo ka mo analyze ngano mao na ang gebuhat sa actual... atong ma trace unsa ang rationale ana.

Ang Electrical Technology suheto mo troubleshoot sa building wiring, motor control, etc... Pero pag set-up sa protection sa system, pag analyze ngano sige mo trip ang transformer protection, pag trace kung asa jud dapit ang cause sa tripping... kinahanglan na ug analysis sa Electrical Engineer gamit fault calculations. Unsa mang kalibotan anang mga laboratory analysis such as Dissolved Gas Analysis ug Dielectric Strength sa transformer oil... dinha naka kabalo unsa nga part sa transformer ang highly possible naay problema...

To make it short, yes... Dapat on-going ang training / upgrading sa knowledge. Bisan engineer nata, dapat pod ta open mo learn sa experiences sa mga technicians / operators / laborer.

[hotshotaha]

In the first few years, yes magamit imo nalearn from school. But EXPERIENCE is always the best teacher!
I'm an ERP software project manager which accounting and IT skills are needed, pero BS-Accountancy ra akong course. Challenging but fulfilling ang work for me then soft skills especially are needed for project management pud

[tosip]

Yes true... Most of my skills today dili ra gikan sa academe... Some of which kay gikan sa mga special trainings / schooling (Motor control, HVAC, Machine Shop / Fabrication, etc.).

Advantage lang sa engineering degree / knowledge, kabalo ka mo analyze ngano mao na ang gebuhat sa actual... atong ma trace unsa ang rationale ana.

Ang Electrical Technology suheto mo troubleshoot sa building wiring, motor control, etc... Pero pag set-up sa protection sa system, pag analyze ngano sige mo trip ang transformer protection, pag trace kung asa jud dapit ang cause sa tripping... kinahanglan na ug analysis sa Electrical Engineer gamit fault calculations. Unsa mang kalibotan anang mga laboratory analysis such as Dissolved Gas Analysis ug Dielectric Strength sa transformer oil... dinha naka kabalo unsa nga part sa transformer ang highly possible naay problema...

To make it short, yes... Dapat on-going ang training / upgrading sa knowledge. Bisan engineer nata, dapat pod ta open mo learn sa experiences sa mga technicians / operators / laborer.

how about sa lain country boss? Unsa ilang style didto? ge expose ba ug maayo sa powerplants ang mga engineering students during their laboratories? Then pag gawas nila sa academe, both theory and technical skills maayo na sila? Or otro pud sila mu undergo ug specialized trainings and GED (murag TESDA sa ilaha ata?). Tapos unsa ang style sa ilang board exam didto? Just like us pud dinhe Philippines na pinaspasay calcu ug padaghanay ug na memorize formula?

[muchacha00]

pag human sa skwela boss is like gatepass rana nimo para dali ka ka sud sa unsa nga work pohon nga imo applayan.. pero ang tinood dha ka ma han-as sa sa imong g trabahoan gamit sa basic foundition nga imong na kat-unan sa pag skwela.. wa koy nahuman course hinoon vocational course rako pero naa ko sa BPO as IT nag work karun.

[oAizeNo]

Gamit kaayo especially dri sa states

[Scott Bernard]

how about sa lain country boss? Unsa ilang style didto? ge expose ba ug maayo sa powerplants ang mga engineering students during their laboratories? Then pag gawas nila sa academe, both theory and technical skills maayo na sila? Or otro pud sila mu undergo ug specialized trainings and GED (murag TESDA sa ilaha ata?). Tapos unsa ang style sa ilang board exam didto? Just like us pud dinhe Philippines na pinaspasay calcu ug padaghanay ug na memorize formula?

Ambot lang kaha didto... Pero it's normal lahi man jud ang trabaho /workplace ug school environment. Wa ko nasuheto sa uban courses, pero sa akong personal experience... mas maayo jud nga bisan engineer ka, naa pod kay background sa technician / laborer nga trabaho... para dali nimo ma lead imong team pohon.

Sa mga freshgrads, never be ashamed to ask questions. Learn to be humble kay if hambogero ka, dili ka todloan sa mga manoy nga trabahante ug mga upper / senior professionals.

[boyq]

Undergrad experience is essentially your foundation. Build it strong in the first place. As you work your way up in your chosen career, you would look back and appreciate that strong foundation.

We can't talk about specifics since we have different fields but to answer your questions, it's highly dependent on the company you are applying. Most multinational companies provide training for new hires and over the course of your employment. Target those companies in the first place. Over the course of my employment, I experienced so much realizations and deeper understanding of what I learned from undergrad. Honestly, I hoped for a better foundation. Anyway, if they can do it, you HAVE to know how to do it! The Being a fresh grad grants you a honeymoon period mostly up to 6 months, so don't worry. Most of us goes through that. Be humble--that's important.

[kolz]

Yes of course, gamit gyud kaayo. In my line of work - I graduated Computer Engineering. One of my first jobs is developing firmware and image processing algorithms - imagine that for a fresh grad. So nibalik ko ug study sa akong Differential and Integral Calculus kay natay-an naman. Even control systems and signal processing courses nagamit pud, since we also design firmware utilizing feedback control for my first employer.

Yep, back in school we were taught mostly the foundations - mostly theoretical, but it does help us in understanding the why and how. You have to translate all that theoretical knowledge you have learned into practical skills which you need at work, which can only be done through experience. That's the reason why we have lab work and design projects sa school, its supposed to supplement your practical skills knowledge.