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    Default US military involved in Exodus


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    The United States’ involvement in Operation Exodus was described in detail by sacked Special Action Force (SAF) commander Director Getulio Napeñas during an executive session at the Senate yesterday.
    Napeñas reportedly told the senators that a US surveillance plane tracked Malaysian bomb expert Zulkifli bin Hir to his hideout in Mamasapano, Maguindanao. The terrorist was killed in a raid by SAF commandos last Jan. 25.
    On their way out of the village after killing Marwan, the commandos encountered guerrillas belonging to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF). The clash left dozens dead, including 44 SAF men.
    Senators grilled Napeñas in an executive session for about four hours. Resigned Philippine National Police chief Alan Purisima and current Intelligence Group director Chief Superintendent Fernando Mendez were not able to speak due to lack of time and were asked to return today for another executive session.
    Sen. Grace Poe assured the public that the Senate would be transparent on issues which may be shared with the public.
    “I think it was very productive. We were able to learn a lot of things, and we confirmed the things we already knew,” Poe said after the executive session at the senators’ lounge. At least 12 senators were in the session.
    Poe said many areas of concern were discussed and clarified by Napeñas, who has owned up to accountability over the Mamasapano incident.
    It was the 84th Seaborne Company led by Supt. Raymond Train who led the assault on the hut of Marwan, while the 36-member 55th Special Action Company was supposedly the blocking force.
    Asked for confirmation on the US role in the operations, Poe maintained she cannot spell out the details until “we have come up with a consensus on which topics can be made available.”
    “It was free and honest. I felt our resource person was much more comfortable,” said Poe, who also did not say whether Napeñas had spilled the beans on other officials.
    In a Senate inquiry last week, Napeñas admitted seeking the help of American forces – but supposedly only for the recovery of injured SAF operatives.
    After the incident, US soldiers participating in joint exercises in Mindanao were seen on television assisting local police and the military in retrieving corpses.
    Sources from the intelligence community told The STAR that the US participation could be limited to intelligence buildup. “Most probably technical intelligence,” the source said, refusing to reveal more due to the sensitivity of the matter.
    During public hearings last week, Napeñas also said he was ready to divulge information during executive session on the severed index finger of Marwan, which had been turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for DNA testing.
    Poe said she believed Napeñas was able to freely reveal details of the operation because of the senators’ commitment to treat the information he would share with extreme care.
    “For one, we didn’t actually time, more than five minutes were given to answer the questions. It was more informal, the exchanges were more random. We went into many details because we only had one resource person. We told him to narrate many different things,” she said.
    Poe added that the important details mentioned about the operations would be made available as soon as possible.
    Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano was also mum on Napeñas’ revelations but cited court records revealing an exchange between Marwan and his brother who is detained in California.
    Marwan had kept Rahmat Andhir informed of the situation in the Philippines, even providing reports of clashes between government forces and groups supposedly protecting him, including the MILF.
    Citing records from the US district court of Northern California, Cayetano stressed that Marwan had told his brother about the involvement of the US in these conflicts through the use of Orion spy planes and Predator drones.
    Cayetano presented to the media the court records on the charges filed against Marwan’s brother for two counts of conspiracy to provide/providing material support to terrorists; contributing goods and services to a specially designated global terrorist and material false statements.
    Earlier yesterday, Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV said he sees nothing wrong with intelligence information sharing between the Philippines and the US.
    “We welcome intelligence sharing, because we alone are not capable of having such information,” Trillanes said.
    DOJ probe
    Meanwhile, the alleged involvement of the US in the Mamasapano operation of the SAF would be included in the Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation into the incident.
    In an interview with reporters, Justice Secretary Leila de Lima said investigating the issue would be “inevitable” as reports of US involvement persist.
    “Definitely, that (US involvement) would be unavoidable to look into… There are several aspects – including that alleged involvement of the US and the extent and scope of involvement as reported in some news items,” she stressed.
    The Constitution prohibits foreign troops from engaging in combat operations within the country.
    But De Lima stressed the issue was not a priority of the DOJ in determining who would be held criminally liable for the incident.
    “But it really depends, if it has any bearing on the criminal aspect of the matter,” she pointed out.
    Another “peripheral” issue, according to De Lima, is the claim of an American working as a “political consultant” in California to the $5-million reward for the capture of Marwan.
    “Those peripheral matters such as the issues on reward, the basis for the reward and who should claim it – I consider them right now as peripheral matters, which at the moment are outside the scope of our investigation,” she explained.
    The STAR reported that one Marcus Allen Frishman was demanding that he be given the reward, saying information he had provided the US State Department helped authorities track down Marwan.
    De Lima reiterated that a DOJ investigative team led by Assistant State Prosecutors Juan Paulo Navera would focus on the criminal aspect of the incident, including appropriate criminal charges to be filed.
    In a related development, De Lima bared that the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) has identified the source of the video reportedly taken during the clash by one of the MILF rebels that went viral on social networking sites.
    “NBI has already identified where the video came from and who uploaded it,” De Lima confirmed.
    Sen. Ferdinand Marcos Jr., meanwhile, defended Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Teresita Deles from accusations that she wanted the investigation into the Mamasapano incident to result in a “whitewash.”
    In a statement, Marcos confirmed that Deles visited him on Jan. 26 but only to brief him of developments and discussed the Bangsamoro Basic Law.
    “There could not even be any suggestion of a whitewash because there was no investigation yet at that time,” Marcos added. – Edu Punay, Jose Rodel Clapano
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    Katong mga leftist dha, this is your chance to speak out and rant.

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    The Constitution prohibits foreign troops from engaging in combat operations within the country.

    Ug tinood ang Kano maoy behind aning Oplan Exodus naa pajud american troops involved .. aw paksit jud nis Panot ani ngano gi allow na siya ...

    Nag Rock and Roll diay ang mga kano sa mamasapano ... pastilan ka inutil aning nasura ...

    Or basin gi tuyo pud nis mga kano aron jud gubaton nang mga Moklo kay kabalo na sila unsang klasing groupo ning MILF ( mga terrorista na sila ) dili pud siguro mosugot si Uncle Sam anang BBL ...

    Daghan man kaaung mo uyon aning gibuhat sa kano ba .. ako dili .... ug mao na hangyoa nalang ninyo sa Uncle Sam nga bombahan nang mga campo sa MILF og BIFF gamit anang Guided Missile ..

    Mao daw ni ang Chain of Command karon ... Uncle Sam - > Panot -> Purisima -> Napenas ....
    Last edited by amingb; 02-17-2015 at 09:11 AM.

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    Really dont give a sh*t bout the americans joining in! In fact, Id welcome them! In fact, I wish theyll juz bomb the whole sh*t and get it over with. This f*cktard filipinos, giving the general filipinos a bad name.

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    ok ra mn kung naa ang US, mas hi-tech pa mn ilang gamit kaysa nato, d mn pd na nla ma locate c Marwan kng wa ang US ba..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstorya View Post
    Really dont give a sh*t bout the americans joining in! In fact, Id welcome them! In fact, I wish theyll juz bomb the whole sh*t and get it over with. This f*cktard filipinos, giving the general filipinos a bad name.
    I'm not even sure if these Moros wish to be called Filipinos. Their main goal is to Islamize the Island and depopulate Christians. Well, they can try.

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    Naa man gud sa Constitution mga bro nga dili na puede foreign troops mag apil2x .... Klaro kaau na ....

    Ang problema atong Goberno nga inutil ..... sige ug pailad aning mga Moklo .... Gubaton na oi aron wagtang nang mga Terrorists diha .... puede ra ang amerkano mo hatag ug mga Arms ug Bombs .... but not personally maoy mo supervise ...

    We dont need foreign troops pa sa karon .. kay Alive pa kaau ang Pilipinas wala pata naparihas sa Iraq ug Bosnia sa una ...

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    US involvement in our country is there from the start.. in the shadow lang ..the likes of drones to gather intel esp sa international terrorist groups and the likes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    US involvement in our country is there from the start.. in the shadow lang ..the likes of drones to gather intel esp sa international terrorist groups and the likes.
    Pero si mamasapano bro klaro naman kaau gud ... kabalo tas capability nila moa tago2x ilaha gi buhat kay bawal and they know it ...

    Supalpal man to nga Operation sa kano .... maypa nagpadala lang to sila ug mga mercenary nga suicide mission manjud nang mga covert operation ... dili katong 300 kapin nga SAF nga kabalo najud na sila nga ihawon ra ...

    Mo sulod kas Campo sa MILF ug BIFF goodluck nalang .... unya mura diman sab to covert operation kay puerting daghana man nga SAF gubat man jud to ...

    Hahay ka palpak ... daot pang dungog sa kano ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Naa man gud sa Constitution mga bro nga dili na puede foreign troops mag apil2x .... Klaro kaau na ....

    Ang problema atong Goberno nga inutil ..... sige ug pailad aning mga Moklo .... Gubaton na oi aron wagtang nang mga Terrorists diha .... puede ra ang amerkano mo hatag ug mga Arms ug Bombs .... but not personally maoy mo supervise ...

    We dont need foreign troops pa sa karon .. kay Alive pa kaau ang Pilipinas wala pata naparihas sa Iraq ug Bosnia sa una ...
    Dude, I really dont give a sh*t! Jesus Christ can come down and smite their as*es for all I care. As long as somebody... someone kill all this motherf*ckers and their ilks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Pero si mamasapano bro klaro naman kaau gud ... kabalo tas capability nila moa tago2x ilaha gi buhat kay bawal and they know it ...

    Supalpal man to nga Operation sa kano .... maypa nagpadala lang to sila ug mga mercenary nga suicide mission manjud nang mga covert operation ... dili katong 300 kapin nga SAF nga kabalo najud na sila nga ihawon ra ...

    Mo sulod kas Campo sa MILF ug BIFF goodluck nalang .... unya mura diman sab to covert operation kay puerting daghana man nga SAF gubat man jud to ...

    Hahay ka palpak ... daot pang dungog sa kano ...
    UU gud, bawal na mo apil2x sila sa internal affair sa nasud.. maski pa naa ang international terrorist diha first ang mo handle ana is ang host country pero if dli na kaya diha pa mo enter. Complications, saun man nila pag enter nga naa man ban ang US mo apil2x sa any operation dri sa pinas, mao covert ops.. then in the middle of the ceasefire pa jud, nice timing noh. mao na naka complicated.

    nag lead (planned) ani is US, support (maoy mo implement) ang SAF..karon palpak man. all fingers point to SAF. period.. wash hand ang US sa any direct involvement.

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