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    Default Concerns about my newly built PC (AMD A10-6800k)


    Hi iStoryans!!

    Naa lang koy concern sa akung newly built pc.

    Start sa ko sa specs:
    AMD A10-6800k 4.1GHz
    Integrated Graphics HD8670D
    4GB 1600Mhz HyperX-blue
    Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 Motherboard
    500GB WD Blue

    Akung concern kay hinay man siya compared sa akung i3-2120 3.1Ghz
    Hinay in terms of multi-tasking
    Wala ko kasabot ug kung unsay cause nga mas pas2 man unta ang A10-6800k kaysa sa i3-2120.
    Ang RAM sa akung i3-2120 kay 4GB 1333Mhz.

    Makasabot raku sa graphics kay naa man HD7750 1GB DDR5 akung i3 pero mag add pako puhon ug video card para sa akung A10-6800k. Pero sa pagopen lang daan ug applications, mas hinay siya compared sa akung i3-2120.

    Need naku inyung tabang iStoryans. Any input is greatly appreciated.

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    AMD A10-6800K advantages

    - The CPU performs 10% faster when running multi-threaded tasks. (its speaking about the threads, not multi tasking)

    - The A10-6800K microprocessor supports F16C, FMA3 and XOP instructions, that were introduced in the recent past. These extensions are not widely supported by applications yet, but their support should improve in future apps.

    - The AMD A10-6800K has FMA4 instruction set extension enabled. Only AMD processors offer this technology, therefore it probably will not get broad support from software vendors.

    Intel Core i3-2120 advantages

    - In single-threaded tasks, the Intel Core i3-2120 has 15% higher performance.
    - The processor performs 21% better in memory-intensive programs.


    A10-6800K vs i3-2120 performance comparison

    Higher is Better

    Single-threaded performance
    AMD A10-6800k - 1
    I3-2120 - 1.5

    Multi-threaded performance
    AMD A10-6800k - 1.1
    I3-2120 - 1


    Memory-intensive applications
    AMD A10-6800k - 1
    I3-2120 - 1.21

    Discrete Graphics performance
    AMD A10-6800k - 1
    I3-2120 - 1.01

    Overall performance
    AMD A10-6800k - 1
    I3-2120 - 1.05


    Pros and Cons summary

    AMD A10-6800k

    General recommendations:
    Faster in multi-threaded tasks,
    Supports F16C / FMA3 / XOP instructions,
    Can be easily overclocked


    Drawbacks:
    Performs slightly worse in all kinds of programs,
    Needs much more power


    Intel i3-2120

    General recommendations:
    Insignificantly faster in all application types,
    Needs less power


    Drawbacks:
    Somewhat slow in multi-threaded applications,
    Does not support some instructions
    Last edited by LordZhen; 05-17-2014 at 05:13 PM.

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    Thanks for this input but I'm not that technical. Pwede bisaya na lang? hehe..

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    Sa akung pagsabot base sa imung post, mas kusog pa d-ay gihapon akung i3 kaysa sa a10-6800k?
    Mas mahal pa man unta ang A10-6800k kaysa sa i3-2120 pagkapalita.

    Boss, naa kay laing ma tabang unsaon naku pag trung akung pc? Lahi ra jud silang duha ug performance nga akung i3 more than a year old then akung A10 just a week old pero macompare na naku ang performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunacyo2se View Post
    Thanks for this input but I'm not that technical. Pwede bisaya na lang? hehe..
    grabeh na man @ts, ka simplified na sa post ni LordZhen. unsaon man nato pag bisaya sa "single"threaded" ug "multi-threaded" beh? "discrete graphics performance" etc. To explain it again, (bahala nag di ka kasabot ug English) tested na na nga mas slighthly faster ang A10 kaysa i3 sa multi-threaded apps becos mas daghan iyang CPUs. but i3 performs faster in single threaded apps becos it has a more powerful CPU (individual). So my question is, ngano naka ingon man ka nga mas paspas ang i3 sa A10 in multi-threaded apps? unsa nga application nang imung gi specify? basin diay single threaded app na. Ug basig baya graphics intensive apps na imung gi ba-sehan maong ni take advantage sa i3+7750, like games, movies, etc.
    Last edited by Tech Guru; 05-18-2014 at 01:17 AM.

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    @TS

    Change your ram to 1866mhz minimum mas ok kung higher pa dayon pag dual stick like 2x4 = 8gb para ma dual channel mode anha nimo makita ang speed nga imo gipangita. Kung mo add ka ug discrete card ang recommended sa amd sa richland and trinity is hd6670 pero mas ok ang 7750 i dunno kung stable na ba dpende nalang sa catalyst nga imo gamiton.

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    ^actually, gamay ra ug performance gain if you go from 1600mhz to 1866mhz ddr3. since naa na syay 1600, then I wont suggest nga mupalit pa jud syag 1866, sayang nalang ang kwarta ana. although you're right, perhaps adding another 4gb would make some performance gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Guru View Post
    grabeh na man @ts, ka simplified na sa post ni LordZhen. unsaon man nato pag bisaya sa "single"threaded" ug "multi-threaded" beh? "discrete graphics performance" etc. To explain it again, (bahala nag di ka kasabot ug English) tested na na nga mas slighthly faster ang A10 kaysa i3 sa multi-threaded apps becos mas daghan iyang CPUs. but i3 performs faster in single threaded apps becos it has a more powerful CPU (individual). So my question is, ngano naka ingon man ka nga mas paspas ang i3 sa A10 in multi-threaded apps? unsa nga application nang imung gi specify? basin diay single threaded app na. Ug basig baya graphics intensive apps na imung gi ba-sehan maong ni take advantage sa i3+7750, like games, movies, etc.
    pasensya na bro, la ako kabalo ana nga terminology. I built my pc not knowing those terms.

    but sa apps nga imung g.pangutana, the apps I was trying to open kay kanang mga simple ra gud like browsers (Google chrome, IE) or kanang folders sa windows like Control Panel or kanag Win+Pause Break. Hinay siya kay akung nakita, mag open ko ani nga apps, ma taud tauran pa unya mo display ang page/folder. Mag circle pa ang akung cursor compared sa akung i3 nga mo open sa folder/browser dayun.

    kasabot ko nga gaming wise, mas okay akung i3 and i'm planning nga ibalhin akung 7750 sa ako a10 then palit nalang ko laing graphics card para sa akung i3.

    u may think i'm stupid with building my own pc without knowledge but what has been done is done. help is appreciated but please have respect. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metzine View Post
    @TS

    Change your ram to 1866mhz minimum mas ok kung higher pa dayon pag dual stick like 2x4 = 8gb para ma dual channel mode anha nimo makita ang speed nga imo gipangita. Kung mo add ka ug discrete card ang recommended sa amd sa richland and trinity is hd6670 pero mas ok ang 7750 i dunno kung stable na ba dpende nalang sa catalyst nga imo gamiton.
    kani bro, what i'm planning is to add another identical ram nalang para ma 8gb. okay ra cguro ang 1600 kay akung na notice, (which basin husgahan nasad ko), is that 4gb ram but 3.20gb ang usable then i searched sa internet, nagkuha d-ay ug memory akung integrated graphics sa akung ram so basin an additional ram kay makatabang.

    sa graphics card, i'm planning to move the 7750 from my i3 to my a10. daghan man ko nabasan nga okay ra daw ang 7750.

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    if sa pag-open pa lang gani sa app hinay na, something is not right. Opening apps are usually dependent on you hdd's speed and some memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sempron Guy View Post
    if sa pag-open pa lang gani sa app hinay na, something is not right. Opening apps are usually dependent on you hdd's speed and some memory.
    I've used the same HDD sa akung i3, same ra sila. Could it be the HDD?

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