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    Default Rightist and leftist group, whats the difference?


    Anybody know whats the difference between the two?

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    Rightist group - Rightists favor progress both material and social.

    leftist group - who are always against the status quo, no matter what.

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    Default Re: Rightist and leftist group, whats the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by dexterdal
    Rightist group - Rightists favor progress both material and social.

    leftist group - who are always against the status quo, no matter what.
    you can't be more mistaken.

    it seems that you are comparing your own 'personal impressions' rather than 'definitions' of the terms given.

    In politics, left-wing and the left, on the left-right polital spectrum, is associated, in varying degrees, with social (as opposed to classical) liberalism, social democracy, socialism, communism, syndicalism, communalism, communitarianism, libertarian socialism, anarchism, left-libertarianism, some forms of green politics, most forms of progressivism, and the Religious Left. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics)

    In politics, right-wing, the political right, and the right are terms generally used to refer to the segments of the political spectrum often associated with any of several strains of conservatism, American conservatism neoliberalism, paleoliberalism, monarchism, fascism, right-libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, reactionism, traditionalism, royalism, some forms of populism, the Religious Right, nationalism, militarism, producerism, Nativism, realism or simply the opposite of left-wing politics. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics)

    The Right is generally against intentional political, economic and social change, the Left is in favor of it. The Left broadly identifies itself with the interests of the masses, while the Right is seen to favor the interests of the established propertied classes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-Right_politics)

    let us first acquaint ourselves with the proper definition of terms to dispell our oftentimes erroneous impressions about political ideologies.

    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Default Re: Rightist and leftist group, whats the difference?

    @gareb: welcome back...

    thanks for the info... so klaro na?

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    but i just cant help wonder why neoliberals or classical liberals are placed in the right side of the political spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareb
    you can't be more mistaken.

    it seems that you are comparing your own 'personal impressions' rather than 'definitions' of the terms given.

    In politics, left-wing and the left, on the left-right polital spectrum, is associated, in varying degrees, with social (as opposed to classical) liberalism, social democracy, socialism, communism, syndicalism, communalism, communitarianism, libertarian socialism, anarchism, left-libertarianism, some forms of green politics, most forms of progressivism, and the Religious Left. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics)

    In politics, right-wing, the political right, and the right are terms generally used to refer to the segments of the political spectrum often associated with any of several strains of conservatism, American conservatism neoliberalism, paleoliberalism, monarchism, fascism, right-libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, reactionism, traditionalism, royalism, some forms of populism, the Religious Right, nationalism, militarism, producerism, Nativism, realism or simply the opposite of left-wing politics. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics)

    The Right is generally against intentional political, economic and social change, the Left is in favor of it. The Left broadly identifies itself with the interests of the masses, while the Right is seen to favor the interests of the established propertied classes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-Right_politics)

    let us first acquaint ourselves with the proper definition of terms to dispell our oftentimes erroneous impressions about political ideologies.

    Depending on the political viewpoint of the person defining the categories, different groups might be categorized as on the left. One might generally characterize parties as on the political left in their respective countries, though even then they might have relatively little in common with other left-wing groups beyond their opposition to the right. However even this can cause issues. For example, the Democratic Leadership Council, an organization of centrists affiliated with the Democratic Party in which former President Bill Clinton was active, is generally considered to be the right wing of the U.S. Democratic Party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child
    but i just cant help wonder why neoliberals or classical liberals are placed in the right side of the political spectrum.
    i am glad you asked the question.

    as it stands, the 'Left-Right' rendering of the political spectrum is an out-dated and imprecise. objections have been raised with regards to this matter and certain renderings, such as the Political Compass have been made to correct this deficiency.

    this is because, certain political ideologies can assume both Leftist and Rightist characteristics. Liberalism, with its many flavors, is an example. Classical liberalism assumes the primacy of individual rights, including anti-slavery and pro-feminism, which are basically Leftist characteristics. Neo-liberalism, like it's classical predecessor, favors market-driven economies with minimal, or no government interferences; a Rightist characteristic, and extends this not just as a means to an end, but market forces as an end to itself. another group of liberals, the Social liberals, favor government funded economic initiatives to spur growth; a Left-wing initiative.

    the tendencies of such ideologies to adopt certain characteristics of either Left or Right can be quite confusing until we examine how they differ with application of axes ('social' and 'economic', as the Political Compass uses, for example) for the purposes of comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by dexterdal
    Depending on the political viewpoint of the person defining the categories, different groups might be categorized as on the left. One might generally characterize parties as on the political left in their respective countries, though even then they might have relatively little in common with other left-wing groups beyond their opposition to the right. However even this can cause issues. For example, the Democratic Leadership Council, an organization of centrists affiliated with the Democratic Party in which former President Bill Clinton was active, is generally considered to be the right wing of the U.S. Democratic Party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics
    refer to my answer to The_Child's query
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Classical liberalism assumes the primacy of individual rights, including anti-slavery and pro-feminism, which are basically Leftist characteristics. Neo-liberalism, like it's classical predecessor, favors market-driven economies with minimal, or no government interferences; a Rightist characteristic, and extends this not just as a means to an end, but market forces as an end to itself. another group of liberals, the Social liberals, favor government funded economic initiatives to spur growth; a Left-wing initiative.

    my professor argued that there is no difference between Classical Liberalism and Neo-Liberalism, only the the spelling she said.

    So you are saying then that it is a rightist characteristic to be more potentially anti-statist than the left? Having mentioned the tendency of Rightist Economy to be adopting laissez-faire or the negative state principle in contrast to the left which leans more towards General-welfare and to tis extreme of a controlled economy.

    gee, i guess, i am a rightist afterall.

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    Which are they rightist or leftist?

    AKBAYAN, NADSU, GABRIELA, ANAK PAWIS.... etc

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    in a layman's term, it is manifested when our right hand hurts our left and vice versa,

    but when both parties are just simply doing in a very ordinary way, the results could be positively extraordinary,

    somehow, it can be done only with fair leadership,

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