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    Good day guys,

    I have a proposal to make. Would it be possible for the admins to consider a sub-forum where intellectual topics are discussed, perhaps a "Philosophy" board where the difficult questions are asked? This board would also consist of topics like religion, faith, belief, ethics, atheism, etc. I know it's a touchy subject but wouldn't it be nice to have an intellectually stimulating board which can go alongside the "Science" board, which by the way, nobody wants to go because nobody can relate?

    The goal of this board is to promote self-awareness, thought-provoking arguments, and responsible/friendly debate. I can see this board where iSTORYANS can relate because they'd be asking questions about life, etc. The topics in this board are distinct from the ones in General Discussion where people post non-sense stuff.

    I would propose that once the board is created, a number of mods (perhaps new ones) are "hired" to keep an eye on that board to prevent another "SnO". don't get me wrong but this is not an attempt to revive the old SnO. believe me guys, people have learned their lesson (i really hope so).

    whachu think guys?

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    It'll cause chaos and a lot if issues, just like Spirituality and Occult section before, especially, kung mag storya na og Religion.

    Science Section, is much stable, not because of rodsky, but because that is Science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthghost View Post
    It'll cause chaos and a lot if issues, just like Spirituality and Occult section before, especially, kung mag storya na og Religion.

    Science Section, is much stable, not because of rodsky, but because that is Science.

    I'll go with you sir... Mang-gawas nya ngari ang mga bible hero where they cant prove how real/true the bible is...

    Samok kaayo nah ang religion naha ng istorya-an... Awa ragud nah ang Iglesia Ni Kristo ug ang Ang Dating Daan... Wala pah gihapun nah sila naghuman... Ug kinsay sakto nila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthghost View Post
    It'll cause chaos and a lot if issues, just like Spirituality and Occult section before, especially, kung mag storya na og Religion.

    Science Section, is much stable, not because of rodsky, but because that is Science.
    I understand the potential of a chaotic environment when this is implemented, and I wish it'd be moderated with an iron fist just like what we see in "Buy and Sell".

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    Moderating with an iron fist, new mods, more mods will never really keep out undesirables. Segregating the two sides doesn't seem to work. We've tried that. The iron fist tactic doesn't work. We've tried that. New and more mods don't work ... there will never be enough people watching all the kids. We've tried that.

    The way I see, there really is only one more idea to try. Exclusivity. Perhaps invite only? Perhaps a new rank that requires more posts than CIA? Perhaps both? With those two criteria, people can petition those who already belong to the group to be invited in if they can't even hope to reach this "more hardcore than CIA" rank. If someone who already has attained this rank breaks the rules, he is simply removed from the group, perhaps may be banned? With rules as strict as this ... people really do have something to lose if they break the law of the land. With something on the line, they'd be less likely to just screw around for shits and giggles. If someone who is invited into this group breaks the rules, he is simply removed from this group.

    Participating in discussions is exclusive. Reading is free of course.

    Thoughts? Please do.
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    Oh and just to remind people of the chaos called SnO, I have made the old threads viewable here ...

    https://www.istorya.net/forums/spirit...nd-occult-old/

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    I like that idea vern, but perhaps a temporary ban from the group for breaking the rules will do, and a permanent ban to those persistent.

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    good idea sir, just like MD pinili ra makasulod

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    the chosen debaters..... I like that...

    general discussion is full of nonsense now.... I really can't relate much.

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    I'd like to share my experience in another Pinoy forum (mostly for those overseas) that has now been closed, perhaps due to the high number of inactive members and even mods. The forum, gang-zah.com, had a “Philosophy, Religion and the Unexplained” section. An archived version of the site is here -> Gang-Zah, but I can't seem to access the individual forums.

    Anyway, that section started ok at first, with all members sharing positive inputs and constructive criticisms. But eventually sore points got touched and the hard core believers, on both sides of the fence, got too personal and subjective. Also, as more and more registered in the forum, we also had to contend with not just trolls but flamers as well. There were a few members, again on both sides, who kept their cool for the sake of the thread. But eventually the thread lost its intellectual air and reduced to a mere mudslinging venue.

    So some of the mods got together to try and find a solution. They eventually came up with the same idea of making certain thread topics exclusive to members who were deemed “worthy” to be invited into the thread. The next challenge then became how to make the selection and invitation process transparent so that all members could see that there were no biases in giving out the invitations. The agreed upon solution for that was to establish a “reputation” point system. Basically, every member is given a point by the mods for every positive, helpful, and responsible post. And a point subtracted for every infraction to the forum rules. After getting a certain amount of posts, the member is then subjected to a final review by the mods after which the mods would vote whether they're for or against inviting that particular member into the thread. The point system doesn't stop there. Once invited, a member has to keep their reputation well above the required points so as to keep from getting kicked out. However, the plan wasn't implemented. I think naabtan og kalaay ang mga mods, haha.

    This seemed a good idea back then since gang-zah had less than 300 members with a posting rate that would bore you. It was quite easy to monitor new posts and there was not much to do for the mods. But here in Istorya, where there are thousands of members with a posting rate that would make speedy gonzales dizzy, it would be quite hard to establish a similar system. It would mean more work for the mods and some changes, perhaps major (?), to the site structure. Then again, I am not familiar with how things are behind the scenes here in Istorya. Perhaps something like this system could be worked out eh, mods?

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