Today's Graphics Cards and 2D Performance

[poldopunk]

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Hello Everyone,

I read this today and I found it to be an awesome article. To be honest, I tend to keep away from Tom's Hardware because the quality has gone down (I find the writing kind of childish) but this one is just excellent. I recommend reading it from the first page to last page as it will provide you with an AWESOME information regarding 2D graphics, acceleration and the Windows operating system.

2D, Acceleration, And Windows: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal? : Part 1: Laying A Theoretical Background - Review Tom's Hardware

Post your comments and reaction here para kita-kita lang, k? I'm not trying to bash manufacturers here. I just found the article so enriching that I am compelled to share. Come to think of it, unless you use the computer to play 3d games the moment you turn it on until you turn it off, then you may skip this otherwise, this shows the importance of 2D acceleration in today's graphics cards.

An update (AMD's response):

Update (1/26/2010): With preliminary research into our 2D performance analysis, AMD reports back with the following:

• Tom’s Hardware has tripped over a workload area (2D lines, etc.) that we have not optimized yet.
• Until this new benchmark, we have not seen any other applications that are bottlenecked by this path, and hence have not focused on it until now.
• Our initial analysis has shown that we have no hardware limitations in this area.
• We now have our driver team engaged to optimize this path and will release a new driver to address this workload as soon as possible.
• We have already found an easy way of increasing our performance greatly, and are now going to try and schedule this in a future Catalyst (need to code in production, validate, ensure it doesn’t break anything else, etc.).

[fineupgrades]

nice find bai polds..

[gabs]

nabasa nako tanan. no worries for me kay di man ko ka afford anang 5xxx series bisan ga plano ko anang 5770 di jud ko ka aford, fordoy man hehehe!

mga windows 7 with 5xxx nga GPU diha, read this one

[ding83]

Good noon mga bros,

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thanx

[PR0CESS0R]

Good noon mga bros,

kinsa naa baligya AGP nga video card, paliton nako.. text lang 09067820465
thanx

wrong thread bro, adto post sa buy/sell section

[istoryanimo]

@poldopunk pwede nako post diri.. cuz na blocked ang tomshardware website.

Update (1/26/2010): Since the original publication of this story on Tom's Hardware DE, we've shared our findings and benchmark binary with AMD for analysis. The company's commentary is included in our conclusion.

Intro: Aren't All Graphics Cards Equal When It Come To 2D?

Since the launch of Windows 7 a few months ago, graphics card vendors have introduced a handful of new GPUs, working to develop and roll out drivers for their products. Enough time has also passed for them to clean up the teething pains of a fresh operating system (which have been, thankfully, significantly less painful than what we saw during the move to Vista), enabling objective benchmarks on a clean slate of new technology.

We also realized that, while 3D takes center stage nowadays, there might also be some benefits for us to revisit a component of graphics that we take for granted every day without really thinking too much about it—namely, 2D. This wasn't one of those out-of-the-blue "let's add something to the test suite that hasn't been a real issue since the days when RAMDAC performance was a major differentiator" moments. More on this shortly.

Although the primary area of interest for most users is on the display speed of the Windows GUI (where Windows 7 earns lots of praise in comparison to Vista), we determined somewhat reluctantly that the supposed “graphics refresh” in Windows 7 isn’t really too fresh at all. Compared to Windows XP (and even Vista), graphics card vendors don't seem to have fully optimized for 2D graphics in Windows 7 quite yet, at least when it comes to close examination of the brand new implementation of GDI (Graphics Device Interface) API calls. What we know as 2D graphics consist of more than cool colors, object blending effects, and animated menus with drop shadows; they also require developers to get down and dirty with pixels, lines, curves, rectangles, polygons, and all kinds of other “graphics primitives,” as they’re sometimes called.

Important Preliminary Note

We wanted to stay away from emotional overtones in this article, even though devoted occupants of the red or green camps might need to rub their eyes as they read through this material. Because we ourselves didn’t want to believe the results of our own tests, we took extra time and care in this story’s preparation, in the interests of all affected parties, to produce results that are as objective and defensible as possible. We also worked hard to create the most objective possible bases for comparing graphics cards against one another. We will also avoid pointing fingers: rather, it’s important to understand this article as a contribution and an aid to those users who not only use their PCs for gaming, but also for those who use their PCs to get real work done.

In this context, it’s important to observe that, currently, it can be quite vexing to work productively with 2D graphics in Windows 7. For example, using a Radeon HD 5870 and the latest drivers, we found it difficult to produce simple vector-based graphics, to render simple or complex CAD designs, or even to play 2D games in higher graphics quality modes. We mention this not as a criticism, but instead as an approach to a definite problem that we sought to analyze and understand as fully as possible.

Theory and Practice

Because most readers are likely unaware of the built-in functions and behavior of 2D acceleration in Windows XP through Windows 7, we’ve broken this extremely comprehensive article into two parts. In this first part, we will convey the noteworthy background and technical topics relevant to 2D graphics, so that when readers graduate to the second part, they’ll not only be able to understand our tests, but also be better-equipped to interpret our results. To help this process along, we even developed our own small benchmarking program (and will make it available for interested parties to download and use for themselves). Our goal is to make both parts as informative, readable, and noteworthy as possible.

In the next section, we’ll tackle 2D basics. In passing, we’d also like to observe that a little background in this area won’t hurt anybody, and may even come in handy for other things besides understanding our benchmarks.

[Sasori]

this one really catch my attention

For the time being, we recommend that users deactivate Aero when working with 2D graphics programs if they’re using one of the latest Radeon HD 5000-series cards in their PC. The resulting performance improvement of up to 300% that follows should make up for the lack of eye candy in those windows. That’s why we implore our readers to deactivate Aero for affected programs, so as to avoid turning off Aero altogether on their machines.

what the.. GF 7050 FTW! ^^

[blizzaga4]

Yeah they're all equal coz 3d is just plain math.....

[foshow]

Very interesting indeed. What if the problem lies on the graphics chipset with the ATI 5000 series and can't be fixed with their catalyst? I would be very sad to own them cards specially for that price range if that would be the case. Lets just hope that the new incoming cards that will come out this year will address this problem on the 2D area.

[poldopunk]

i'm glad some people found it interesting. the thing is, we spend more time in 2D rather than 3D so both Nvidia and ATI needs to address this. they've been pushing 3D performance and starting to forget the importance of 2D.

ATI has already acknowledged the issue and is working on the fix pero wala naapil sa karon lang jud gi release nga update sa driver. Although decent ang performance sa 2D concerning Nvidia, its still an embarrassment that an old chipset outperforms their current cards.