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    Default (venture capitalist) -negosyo nga murag dili negosyo


    kini nga thread dedicate nako sa mga tao nga gusto mag negosyo pero dili ganahan mo trabaho sa ila negosyo... (in short, tapulan like me)

    this is another of my business tips series..


    this is call venture capitalism.. dako kwarta dire, pero mao lage, dako2x pud kwatra kinhanlanon dire..

    dire pure capital ra jud imuha dire, you dont need to work.. you let somebody work with the money you have,

    you basically invest on a business/project idea.. this is similar to 5-6, you use your money to finance somebody's business.. except here, you become a corporator or partner in the project.. dli kinhanlanon long term ni...

    this is how i raise capital, and how i invest on businesses, mangita ko mga tao interested sa ako business proposal. dili jud necessary nga whole business jud, pwede transaction basis lang..

    example 1.
    hatagi ko 100k kay himoon nako rancho, you get 40 percent of all profits from all sales in all transactions.. leave the management, operation to me..

    example 2.
    hatagi ko 10k para ako gamiton palit gasolina pagtransport sa baboy padulong merkado, gaan tika 30% sa profit for every baboy sold..

    so, aha man ang effort ani dire gikan sa imo? answer is wala.. imo ra money ang naglihok para nimo.... this is different from 5-6.. sa 5-6, you invest on the trust that the person will pay you with interest, dire, you invest on the trust that the product/project will generate enough sales/profit...

    kabalo nako unsa inyo gi huna2x.. lisud mo trust og tao.. tinood.. lisud.. so make sure, nga if if you make profit, he makes profit too.. make it in his best interest nga mo profit jud siya..

    example 3.

    naa ko project, kalsada, give me 5M pesos and you get 5 pesos for evry car that passes good for 20 years..

    lisud ni explain nga concept, pero ako lang mo sultian nga dire kusog ang tubod sa kwarta.. opposite ni sa ako gi post nga starting a biz with nothing.. dire starting a biz with only money.. (sa ako previous post, ikaw nanginhanlan kwarta, dire ikaw ang tighatag kwarta)

    ang importante ani nga style sa pag invest, kay dapat kabalo ka aha ka mangita ani nga klase nga deals.. importante kaau nga daghan ka kaila.. and up-to-date imo informations..

    maski pa matulog ka, magtubod imo kwarta.. compared ani. hinay ra kaau ng mutual funds oi..

    example 4
    naa ko factory, i need capital to buy new equipment para daghan ako ma produce, gai ko 500k.. for every item sold, you get 2 pesos..


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    sa gusto magstart with nothing.. easy..

    paghimo business idea.. pangita tao nga moinvest sa imo business proposal.. thats it.. just offer your sweat equity.. meaning instead of money ikaw provide sa manpower.. or much better.. ikaw broker.. ikaw mangita investors,, and in return, mangau ka gamay porsyento as "pang-kape" naa pud opposite, naa investors nga mangita ma invsetan.. either way, you earn...

    it might interest pud as inu nga dire, pwede ka moinvest sa hospital maski di ka doctor, invst ka sa construction maski di ka engineer.. mao ng mga rich people daghan kwarta, they dont actually own many business, they only just invested large sums into promising ventures..


    sa moingon nga ahhh.. para ra man na sa dagko capital.. di man na pwede below sa ako ......php.. ako lang ma say is gadem-it. use your imagination.. walay imposible as long as kamao ka diskarte..

    money grows on trees if you know which right seed to plant.. mao ni ako gitawag nga dawat limpyo.. again. naa ra jud sa diskarte..

    dire, posible walay singot motulo para mka kwarta ka..

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    but i must warn sa inu.. daghan!!! kaau scams dire!!

    ang pinaka uso kay kanang "help, im a widow in africa, i need 1000$ to get my estate, i will give you 1/6 of my estate once its cleared with all the red tape"

    kung mo sulod mo ani, dapat mo invest mo sa sales jud ang tirada, ayaw ng promise2x, dapat tanan transaction naa resibo para naa ka legal claim.. ni invest ka sa business, so ang purpose sa imo investment is to sell the product..

    the purpose of evry business is to sell! product or services.. dont forget that.. ayaw mo invest anang gai ko 1m kay ako ikalot sa gold ni marcos.. always ask yourself nga mahalin ba jud kaha ng mga products/sercvices nga ako investan..

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    AmorsoloX, this is very interesting! Mao ni dugay na nakong gi-hunting nga klase sa business. Can you help me with information on where I can break into this type of biz? Pero kanang maseguro pod nako nga, gawas nga mokita ang akong kwarta nga i-invest, dili pod mahimutang sa peligro ang akong kwarta nga mahanaw lang unya sa hangin.

    Let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by !z2riador View Post
    AmorsoloX, this is very interesting! Mao ni dugay na nakong gi-hunting nga klase sa business. Can you help me with information on where I can break into this type of biz? Pero kanang maseguro pod nako nga, gawas nga mokita ang akong kwarta nga i-invest, dili pod mahimutang sa peligro ang akong kwarta nga mahanaw lang unya sa hangin.

    Let me know.
    this is not a biz.. this is an investment strategy.. mura lang negosyo... these are very hard to find kinds of deal.. maski ako, daghan ko dili ma apilan. dire, it matters who you know and who knows you, i would advise nga you really should get out more often, and hang out with people who have moeny.. i really advise you to join civic groups like rotary, knights of columbus, n other noble ngos.. dako kaau nga tabang imo social life ani.. you really need to become somebody...

    may i ask pila imo capital? and what imo fields of expertise?

    depende sa imo capital, kay kung gamay2x ra.. focus sa imo mga kaila nga naa biz nga general trading.. kung dako2x gamay, go into transportation, or specialty shops.. kung dako jud.. go into real estate nga preselling..

    depende pud sa imo experience, kay naa jud uban transactions nga medu complicated..

    even if naa ko kaila jud karon, lisud kaau refer2x sa ani nga style. kinhanlanon jud nimo nga mosalig sila nimo..

    imo greatest asset dire kay ang imo personal network.. your money counts as nothing if you dont know the guys who can make best use of it.. and you cant get money if nobody trusts you, getting them to know you is hard enough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by !z2riador View Post
    AmorsoloX, this is very interesting! Mao ni dugay na nakong gi-hunting nga klase sa business. Can you help me with information on where I can break into this type of biz? Pero kanang maseguro pod nako nga, gawas nga mokita ang akong kwarta nga i-invest, dili pod mahimutang sa peligro ang akong kwarta nga mahanaw lang unya sa hangin.

    Let me know.
    sa mga pipz out there nga naa solid business idea, (dili ng UNO or networking ha), pangita mo mga tao nga ani. naa money nya gusto mo invest...

    look for people like this, and you wont need your own money to start one.. your equity is your sweat equity.. pag form mo limited liability partnership

    just in case naa ka ma meet, i advise tanan ninu transactions formal and in writing para wala gubot..

    in here, you dont look for businesses.. you look for deals within businesses.. this is the second fastest way of earning way after brokerage..

    example:
    you offer to buy somebody 1 unit of jeepney, then put it in rent to own scheme where you get 20% of the income for a certain amount of time..

    offer to buy stocks for a local store, then you get 1 peso per item sold..
    Last edited by AmorsoloX; 11-22-2009 at 05:44 PM.

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    Nice thread. Magsubay lang ko ani...Thanks AmorsoloX.

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    nice investment strategy TS. thanks for the info

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    maayoha gyod pagka title ani bro.......watch mode sad ko ani

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    this is what big players do.. kanang mga dagkong tae sa business, mao ni ila secret.. they dont really start their biz.. they look for biz nga promising then didtu nila i pour ila capital..


    naa dire ang grabe potential sa kwarta.. but if your being stupid.. this is the best place to commit suicide..

    kini nga life/diskarte/(or whatever this strategy is), kinhanlan jud isog ka og dugo..

    dire, imo leverage kay ang imo capital.. your capital works for you, even if you dont..

    this is why i strongly preach for independent business systems.. dili ganahan mo invest ng big investors sa imo negosyo nga nagsalig sa tao/manager.. they trust the system.. not the people..

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    Unsa man imung mga proposal? Basi pwdi sad ko mu butang diha. PM me sa details.

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